Qt goes GPL

2000-09-04 Thread Juhapekka Tolvanen
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/09/04/134218&mode=thread http://freshmeat.net/news/2000/09/04/968126399.html http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/2269/1/ http://www.trolltech.com/company/announce/generalpl.html If that will become true, I'll stop whining about its licence. --

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 02:51:46PM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote: > Actually, that used to be a problem (I've had that as well, where an > incorrectly configured X e.g. for a different card caused an infinite > loop of switching to X and back again, so that you never have the > chance of switching wit

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-04 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 02:35:00PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have one wav file that when vorbis-encoded does not play correctly with > ogg123 but plays with the xmms plugin. Plus there is not any native esd > support. > My memory is flakey, but I believe there *is* esd support, (liba

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-04 Thread ferret
I have one wav file that when vorbis-encoded does not play correctly with ogg123 but plays with the xmms plugin. Plus there is not any native esd support. On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Michael Beattie wrote: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 01:03:15PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > lame/vorbis works al

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 10:32:07AM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote: > How come Debian don't have a "non-X" runlevel, like some other > distributions, in the default configuration? I think this would be > pretty convenient. Because no one has ever bothered to write a runlevel policy. -- G. Branden Robi

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-04 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 01:03:15PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > lame/vorbis works alright. The problem I'm facing is lack of a good CLI > ogg player. Whats wrong with ogg123? -- Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-04 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:05:27PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > > I guess RevKrusty may want to put his packages into Debian? > > > > He already uploaded kdelibs, I didn't see if it was installed. > > I was wondering what happened to it? It didn't appear in the > archives, it wasn't moved to R

Re: Qt2.2 released under the GPL

2000-09-04 Thread Jeff Teunissen
Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > > Thus spake happ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > enough said > > http://www.trolltech.com > > now we can move the ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato kde2 contrib > > back home > > Great! Has anyone yet packages available? If not, I'll be willing to ITP > some. Qt 2.2 hasn't be

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-04 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 03:20:40PM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:55:51PM +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote: > > > Who is going to ITP kde ? > > > > I guess RevKrusty may want to put his packages into Debian? > > He already uploaded kdelibs, I didn't see if it was installed. I

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-09-04 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 12:29:32AM +1100, Donovan Baarda wrote: > packages into unstable. Helix is too stable for unstable, and too unstable > for stable. Not exactly true, as Helix Gnome is usually more cutting-edge than unstable Gnome. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhi

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-04 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:55:51PM +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote: > > Who is going to ITP kde ? > > I guess RevKrusty may want to put his packages into Debian? He already uploaded kdelibs, I didn't see if it was installed. -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GnuPG key 1024D/DCF9DAB3

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-04 Thread ferret
lame/vorbis works alright. The problem I'm facing is lack of a good CLI ogg player. Of course the other problem is the code not yet being optimised (and I'm not complaining but..) and bogging down my poor P133. But then abcde could go into main. ;) On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Peter Allen wrote: > Daniel

Re: Qt2.2 released under the GPL

2000-09-04 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Thus spake happ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > enough said > http://www.trolltech.com > now we can move the ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato kde2 contrib > back home Great! Has anyone yet packages available? If not, I'll be willing to ITP some. -- Kind regards, +---

build question

2000-09-04 Thread michael d. ivey
i'm a new maintainer, and maybe this is better directed at -mentors, or maybe it's in the docs somewhere...if so, just point me that way, please. my main server is potato. is it "bad" for me to be building packages there if they are destined for woody? should i start building on a woody box? --

Re: [peter@makholm.net: Re: ITP hodie]]

2000-09-04 Thread Mikael Johansson
> "Christian T. Steigies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > What does it do? > > It has the same functionality as the date (1) program, only... It > > has it in grammatically correct latin. > > Couldn't this be done with gettext and the normal date comand? > > -- > Peter > > - End for

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-04 Thread Andreas Rottmann
Hugues Marilleau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Who is going to ITP kde ? > > I'm dreaming about an "apt-get install kde" ... > Rather task-kde ;-) (SCNR) Regards, Andy -- Andreas Rottmann | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pfeilgasse 4-6/725 | A-1080 Wien |

Re: libgd1 vs. libgd1g

2000-09-04 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 02:44:44PM +0200, Remco van de Meent wrote: > There are already loads of bugreports like that filed against > webalizer, because people don't seem to bother checking the existing > bugreports before fileing yet another one, and, worse, people are > getting angry when you don

Re: ITP: penguin command

2000-09-04 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:55:25PM +0200, Bernhard Josef Rieder wrote: > On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 03:44:29AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > > > only been slightly modified. Penguin Command is > > > completely licensed under the GPL, excluding the music. > > The problem with the music: it is f

Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-09-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Julian" == Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Julian> No, this isn't what I was talking about. There was a discussion Julian> recently (should I try to track down the message numbers?) about some Julian> packages which could not use the debconf database setup, for example Julian> b

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-04 Thread Peter Allen
Daniel Burrows wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:37:20AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: > > Lame could be compiled with vorbis support enabled and mp3 disabled, > > perhaps, and go into unstable/main. But would we have to excise the > > mp3-specific parts in the source package in o

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-04 Thread Peter Allen
David Starner wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 05:06:34PM +0600, Sergey I. Golod wrote: > > David Starner wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 03:15:10PM +0600, Sergey I. Golod wrote: > > > > Hello. > > > > > > > > Why apt/dpkg doesn't use bzip2 for Packages file? > > > > > > > > -rw-r--r--

Re: Qt2.2 released under the GPL

2000-09-04 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:08:33PM +0200, happ wrote: > > enough said > > http://www.trolltech.com > > now we can move the ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato kde2 contrib > back home The sources have to be recompiled at least with the new Qt. > WE WON ! Everyone won :) Thanks, Marcus -- `R

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:30:06AM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote: > > "EB" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > EB> perhaps because in the default configuration there is no > EB> display manager, and thus no automatic runage of X. > > Sure. But whenever you install something t

Qt2.2 released under the GPL

2000-09-04 Thread happ
enough said http://www.trolltech.com now we can move the ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato kde2 contrib back home WE WON ! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-04 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > Hi, Hi Marcelo, >... > Regarding the severity of the ftp.debian.org bug: important. > Rationale: in the general case, packages that managed to get to this > state are non-interesting (otherwise they would have been adopted > already). That me

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for September 1, 2000

2000-09-04 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 06:07:04PM +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: > Quoting BugScan reporter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Package: nscd (debian/main) > > Maintainer: Joel Klecker > > 58367 nscd: 'broken pipe' error causes entire box to be unusable > > [IGNORE] No fix or workaround available for

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Brian Mays
> On 04 Sep 2000, Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > also debian believes in leaving the runlevel configuration to the > > admin to define. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerfried Fuchs) wrote: > Sure - but there is the FHS (I hope that I read it there) that > defines what at least runlevel 2 and

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for September 1, 2000

2000-09-04 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Quoting BugScan reporter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Package: nscd (debian/main) > Maintainer: Joel Klecker > 58367 nscd: 'broken pipe' error causes entire box to be unusable > [IGNORE] No fix or workaround available for potato (ajt) Is this fixed in woody? I have been forced to shutdown nscd tota

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-04 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:37:20AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: > Lame could be compiled with vorbis support enabled and mp3 disabled, > perhaps, and go into unstable/main. But would we have to excise the > mp3-specific parts in the source package in order to do so? This is somethi

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-04 Thread ferret
Lame could be compiled with vorbis support enabled and mp3 disabled, perhaps, and go into unstable/main. But would we have to excise the mp3-specific parts in the source package in order to do so? On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Samuel Hocevar wrote: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000, John O Sullivan wrote: > > I'm su

ITP magellan

2000-09-04 Thread John O Sullivan
Magellan is a personal information manager under development for KDE 2.0. I am a close friend of the project leader and we've discussed this several times. More details available from http://www.kalliance.org The license is the MIT license. I am not assuming that KDE will or will not make it into

Re: libgd1 vs. libgd1g

2000-09-04 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 2904T14+0200, Remco van de Meent wrote: > getting angry when you don't reply to their requests within one hour, > even if you are 'on leave' as stated on db.debian.org. Nondevelopers do not have access to the away information in db.d.o. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-04 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 03:50:03PM +0200, Hugues Marilleau wrote: > Who is going to ITP kde ? I guess RevKrusty may want to put his packages into Debian? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-04 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Scavenging the mail folder uncovered Hugues Marilleau's letter: > Who is going to ITP kde ? > > I'm dreaming about an "apt-get install kde" ... > > And what about Debian GNU/Hurd and Debian Win32 ? They are not Unix > (Linux is ?) and only Qt/Unix is GPL ? I think this is a good reason > to *not

Re: Debian, daemons and runlevels (was: Re: X and runlevels)

2000-09-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: > This would be managed through a simple (for sysvinit. I don't believe it'd > be very complex for file-rc either, but I didn't check), standard > script/program added to the sysvinit and file-rc packages (and any other > future packages of the same s

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-04 Thread Richard Braakman
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 03:50:03PM +0200, Hugues Marilleau wrote: > And what about Debian GNU/Hurd and Debian Win32 ? They are not Unix > (Linux is ?) and only Qt/Unix is GPL ? I think this is a good reason > to *not* include KDE in Debian. If there is a free version, the rest is a matter of port

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Per Lundberg
> "SH" == Samuel Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> The reason I ask is because I've been having this exact problem >> with gpm lately. I like to start it occasionally, because it >> interfers with my X configuration SH>You might be interested in the `-R' option of gpm

Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-04 Thread Hugues Marilleau
Who is going to ITP kde ? I'm dreaming about an "apt-get install kde" ... And what about Debian GNU/Hurd and Debian Win32 ? They are not Unix (Linux is ?) and only Qt/Unix is GPL ? I think this is a good reason to *not* include KDE in Debian. See http://www.trolltech.com/company/announce/genera

apt and multiple connections

2000-09-04 Thread Russell Coker
It appears from the apt documentation that it will only ever transfer a maximum of one file per web-server by design (the documentation on Queue-Mode in apt.conf(5) says that it will transfer one file per-host or one per URI type). I would like to transfer several files at a time to enable usable

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-09-04 Thread Donovan Baarda
G'day Joey, I'm not subscribed to debian-devel, but wanted to add some comments on this issue after reading the web archives. Because I'm not subscribed, I dunno if my Cc to the list will work, in which case you can forward this to the list as you see fit. IMHO, the entire reason Helix exists as

Debian, daemons and runlevels (was: Re: X and runlevels)

2000-09-04 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, Paul Slootman wrote: > On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Ethan Benson wrote: > > It's unfortunate that there's no easy way to find the current runlevel > (the usual "who -r" from Solaris etc. doesn't work), otherwise this > piece of code could be used: > > RL=`who -r` > if [ -x

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Anton Ivanov
> On Mon, Sep 04, 2000, Anton Ivanov wrote: > > It still does not answer the original question which was about X-only/ > > non-X runlevel. In other words how to boot in multiuser mode selectively > > with/without X. Which is quite a sensible question. > > > > Example: > > I had to go int

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Arthur Korn
Paul Slootman schrieb: > On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Ethan Benson wrote: > Debhelper (and one of the other helper things) does this, if you > don't call dh_installinit with the --no-restart-on-upgrade (or such) > option. I guess the reasoning is that (a) you're upgrading in multiuser > mode because debia

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-04 Thread Arthur Korn
Hello. Adrian Bunk schrieb: > My suggestion for the Packages file is: > > There's a Packages.bz2 additionally to the Packages.gz . apt downloads by > default the Packages.bz2, but you can tell apt to fetch the Packages.gz > instead if you do have a slow machine. This solution has the advantage >

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Samuel Hocevar
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000, Anton Ivanov wrote: > It still does not answer the original question which was about X-only/ > non-X runlevel. In other words how to boot in multiuser mode selectively > with/without X. Which is quite a sensible question. > > Example: > I had to go into an inter

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Anton Ivanov wrote: > > Example: > I had to go into an intermediate single user mode boot on some of > my machines after forgetting to turn off xdm after changing video cards. > Or during dealing with laptop docking gear. > If there was a boot with X disabled and

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
On 04 Sep 2000, Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also debian believes in leaving the runlevel configuration to the > admin to define. Sure - but there is the FHS (I hope that I read it there) that defines what at least runlevel 2 and 3 are for. I would really like to see that Debian com

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread John Hasler
Frank writes: > Isn't ctrl-alt-F[1-6] good enough to get into console mode? In what > circumstances whould you not want X to start up on boot if you had > installed a *dm? a) You just made some changes in X that caused it to lock up the display. Magic sysreq got you out alive, but now you would

Re: libgd1 vs. libgd1g

2000-09-04 Thread Remco van de Meent
Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > > The libgd maintainer decided to drop support for a libc5-based > > libgd and renamed the libgd1g package to libgd1 (I personally don't > > think that this was a good idea as it might cause problems during > > upgrades). > > Do I interpret this right that I should file a

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Anton Ivanov
> On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:48:24PM +0100, Anton Ivanov wrote: > > > > In the circumstance when you are serving a flock of dumb clients > > from a single machine. NCD Xterms for example. In this case you *NEED* a > > *dm > > running with network access turned on but the machine itself may

Re: libgd1 vs. libgd1g

2000-09-04 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
Please refrain from Cc:ing me - I _do_ read the lists I'm posting to *sigh* It seems that that can't be said often enough. On 04 Sep 2000, Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The libgd maintainer decided to drop support for a libc5-based libgd and > renamed the libgd1g package to libgd1 (I

Re: Re[2]: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Michael Bravo wrote: > Monday, September 04, 2000, 3:01:42 PM, you wrote: > > PS> It's unfortunate that there's no easy way to find the current runlevel > PS> (the usual "who -r" from Solaris etc. doesn't work) > > /sbin/runlevel can be used to find the current runlevel So it

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:30:06AM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote: > > "EB" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > EB> perhaps because in the default configuration there is no > EB> display manager, and thus no automatic runage of X. > > Sure. But whenever you install something th

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:48:24PM +0100, Anton Ivanov wrote: > > In the circumstance when you are serving a flock of dumb clients > from a single machine. NCD Xterms for example. In this case you *NEED* a *dm > running with network access turned on but the machine itself may not even > h

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-04 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 02:25:39AM -0300, Nicol?s Lichtmaier wrote: > > > > > I had a 486 with 8Mb and with `bzip2 -s' I could use bzipped packages > > > > > perfectly... are we talking about 4 Mb mechines? > > > > Do you realize how much ram dpkg itself already takes up? Add that to > > > > bzip2

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Samuel Hocevar
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000, Per Lundberg wrote: > Are you *absolutely* sure? The reason I ask is because I've been > having this exact problem with gpm lately. I like to start it > occasionally, because it interfers with my X configuration You might be interested in the `-R' option of gpm then. Sam

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:48:24PM +0100, Anton Ivanov wrote: > [snip] > > > > > Isn't ctrl-alt-F[1-6] good enough to get into console mode? In what > > circumstances whould you not want X to start up on boot if you had > > installed a *dm? > > > > In the circumstance when you are serving

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:30:06AM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote: > Sure. But whenever you install something that gets you a display > manager, your system will boot up in X. To get it to boot up in > console mode, you have to manually remove the symlinks in your > runlevel's script directory. The next

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-04 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 01:19:08AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:54:25AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > > Um, why send such a message to a widely-read mailing-list? > > As a joke... Im damned curious.. what did it say? -- Michael Bea

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Anton Ivanov
[snip] > > Isn't ctrl-alt-F[1-6] good enough to get into console mode? In what > circumstances whould you not want X to start up on boot if you had > installed a *dm? > In the circumstance when you are serving a flock of dumb clients from a single machine. NCD Xterms for example. In th

Re: libgd1 vs. libgd1g

2000-09-04 Thread Stefan Gybas
Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > webalizer and linuxconf now depends on libgd1g, which currently isn't > anymore available from our ftp-servers. Not any longer. The newest linuxconf package in woody depends on the new libgd1: Package: linuxconf [...] Version: 1.20r2-1 Depends: netbase (>= 3.16-1), logrot

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Frank Copeland
On 4 Sep 00 09:43:35 GMT, Per Lundberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "EB" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> Sure. But whenever you install something that gets you a >>> display manager, your system will boot up in X. >EB> is that not what you wanted when you installe

Re: Sound config broken in 2.2.17 ???

2000-09-04 Thread Miros/law `Jubal' Baran
4.09.2000 pisze Andrew M.A. Cater ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Two colleagues and myself have tried to get sound working > on 2.2.17 systems with Potato. Well, I can't confirm broken sound config. I didn't have any problems. Stock Debian 2.2.17pre source with some usual patches (devfs for example); `m

Re: WARNING: potato has horrible broken locales

2000-09-04 Thread Mirek Kwasniak
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:50:07PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote: [...] > It will break scripts, but it doesn't seem like anyone cares about > that (Ohhh, I imagine there is a major flamer war going on > somewhere). The future proof and locale portable way to do the above > is: > > ls /dev/tty[[:lowe

Re: WARNING: potato has horrible broken locales

2000-09-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Peter Makholm wrote: handling of [a-z] discussion snipped > ls /dev/tty[[:lower:]]0 Ugh. Whatever happened to lazy unix users? a-z is a lot easier to type than [:lower:] . I'd find it a lot more reasonable if [A-Z] was interpreted as [A-Za-z]. Next step will be renaming ls

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-04 Thread Adrian Bunk
My suggestion for the Packages file is: There's a Packages.bz2 additionally to the Packages.gz . apt downloads by default the Packages.bz2, but you can tell apt to fetch the Packages.gz instead if you do have a slow machine. This solution has the advantage that there are no problems with old versi

Re[2]: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Michael Bravo
Hello Paul, Monday, September 04, 2000, 3:01:42 PM, you wrote: PS> It's unfortunate that there's no easy way to find the current runlevel PS> (the usual "who -r" from Solaris etc. doesn't work) /sbin/runlevel can be used to find the current runlevel -- Best regards, Michael

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Ethan Benson wrote: > also you mean that the symlinks are recreated, not just gpm being > restarted right? there is an obnoxious behavior in debian where > upgraded packages are started even if they were not running in the > first place. (*cough* portmap *cough*) there was a

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:43:35AM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote: > Maybe, but having the option to get into console mode too would be > nice. Sometimes, you might not want X to start up when you reboot. (I > don't do this very often, but I know there are people that do) the key is not everyone does

Re: ITP: penguin command

2000-09-04 Thread Bernhard Josef Rieder
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 03:44:29AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > only been slightly modified. Penguin Command is > > completely licensed under the GPL, excluding the music. The problem with the music: it is free distributable but the author does not want it to be changed. Is there any licen

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Per Lundberg
> "EB" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: EB> it leaves the decision where it belongs with me. Yeah. I think you're right about this. I just got a little confused with my gpm problems, I guess. EB> if that is true (and your only removing SOME of the symlinks EB> not ALL

Re: WARNING: potato has horrible broken locales

2000-09-04 Thread Peter Makholm
Mirek Kwasniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Today I've trying (in bash): > > ls /dev/tty[a-z]0 > > and answer has unexpected /dev/ttyI0 and /dev/ttyS0 followed by > /dev/tty[a-z]0 entries. I've seen this comming up a lot of places the past few months. It looks like somebody wants to redefine

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Per Lundberg wrote: > Are you *absolutely* sure? The reason I ask is because I've been Yes. > having this exact problem with gpm lately. I like to start it > occasionally, because it interfers with my X configuration, so I use > to remove the symlinks. Each and every time gpm

WARNING: potato has horrible broken locales

2000-09-04 Thread Mirek Kwasniak
Hi, Some time ago I discoverd a problem with sort (from textutils). It doesn't work for me :(. Maintainger of textutils package wrote me that is problem only with my (pl_PL) locale. After that he discovered that even en_AU locale is broken. This bug (#69544) has been reassigned to libc6. Today I

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-04 Thread Samuel Hocevar
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000, John O Sullivan wrote: > I'm surprised that lame hasn't been packaged already. Was it discussed and > rejected previously? You're right about the Fraunhofer problem. See the WNPP page at http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html (at the bottom). Sam. -- Samuel

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Per Lundberg
> "EB" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Sure. But whenever you install something that gets you a >> display manager, your system will boot up in X. EB> is that not what you wanted when you installed *dm ? Maybe, but having the option to get into console mode too woul

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:30:06AM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote: [...] To get it to boot up in >console mode, you have to manually remove the symlinks in your >runlevel's script directory. The next time you update the display >manager, you'll have to do this again. It is not really convenient. Upgrad

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Per Lundberg wrote: > Sure. But whenever you install something that gets you a display > manager, your system will boot up in X. To get it to boot up in > console mode, you have to manually remove the symlinks in your > runlevel's script directory. The next time you update the

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:30:06AM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote: > > "EB" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > EB> perhaps because in the default configuration there is no > EB> display manager, and thus no automatic runage of X. > > Sure. But whenever you install something th

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Per Lundberg
> "EB" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: EB> perhaps because in the default configuration there is no EB> display manager, and thus no automatic runage of X. Sure. But whenever you install something that gets you a display manager, your system will boot up in X. To get it to

Re: Map on debian website - bug in apache?

2000-09-04 Thread Remco van de Meent
Paul Slootman wrote: > > On http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/developers.loc , there's supposed > > to be a jpeg of a world map with debian developers. On the main > > website, www.debian.org, there is. > > > > It seems that the .nl webserver is interpreting the filename > > "developers.map.jpeg" as

Re: intent to package countrycodes

2000-09-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Sun 03 Sep 2000, Dr. Guenter Bechly wrote: > I intend to package Country Codes 1.0.3, a text-based ISO3166 country code > finder (yes, I know there is a Perl module that does the same, but this > little tool is easier and more flexible). The package is actually already > made > and lintian cl

Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-04 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 10:15:42AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > | The follwing packages need a new maintainer: > | ... > | mpsql (68054), 33 days old I'm sorry, but I don't have the original mail anymore. But I thought it said the packages including mpsql will be moved to project/orphane

ITP lame

2000-09-04 Thread John O Sullivan
LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder I'm surprised that lame hasn't been packaged already. Was it discussed and rejected previously? Original source available from http://www.sulaco.org/mp3 Licence is 100% GPL'ed code since May 2000 There is a possible problem with the Fraunhoffer (sp?) patent on mp3 but I do

Re: Map on debian website - bug in apache?

2000-09-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Fri 01 Sep 2000, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > On http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/developers.loc , there's supposed > to be a jpeg of a world map with debian developers. On the main > website, www.debian.org, there is. > > It seems that the .nl webserver is interpreting the filename > "develo

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 10:32:07AM +0200, Per Lundberg wrote: > (Sorry if this has been discussed earlier, and/or this is the wrong list...) > > How come Debian don't have a "non-X" runlevel, like some other > distributions, in the default configuration? I think this would be > pretty convenient.

X and runlevels

2000-09-04 Thread Per Lundberg
(Sorry if this has been discussed earlier, and/or this is the wrong list...) How come Debian don't have a "non-X" runlevel, like some other distributions, in the default configuration? I think this would be pretty convenient. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsu

Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi, >> Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:55:29AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > please do close bug #68054 if the package is no longer up for ^^ > > adoption. The number after th

Sound config broken in 2.2.17 ???

2000-09-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
Hello all, Two colleagues and myself have tried to get sound working on 2.2.17 systems with Potato. [I have also tried on a Woody system] Kernel builds - sound modules aren't there. Devices in /dev are all there OK. If the soundcard drivers are built into the kernel - all appears OK - cat /de

Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-04 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:55:29AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > please do close bug #68054 if the package is no longer up for > adoption. The number after the package name is the bug number on It is up for adoption but this is not the same as orphaned by any means. > ... > As to

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-09-04 Thread Paul Slootman
On Fri 01 Sep 2000, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > > What about for users who want to rebuild the package for whatever > reasons? Many times you get half way through some huge package and it > craps out because you didn't have some esoteric header file or > library. Build-depends is invluable for avoi

Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 06:55:16PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > mpsql (68054), 33 days old > > How on earth did this make it onto your list. I cannot remeber orphaning it > at all. please do close bug #68054 if the package is no l

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-04 Thread Colin Watson
"Sergey I. Golod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Bas Zoetekouw wrote: >> Thus spake Sergey I. Golod ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): >> > Why apt/dpkg doesn't use bzip2 for Packages file? >> > -rw-r--r--1 root root 749427 Sep 3 00:56 Packages.bz2 >> > -rw-r--r--1 root root 1024180 Sep

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-04 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:54:25AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > Um, why send such a message to a widely-read mailing-list? As a joke... -- G. Branden Robinson | Psychology is really biology. Debian GNU/Linux| Biology is really chemistry. [EMA

Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-04 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 06:55:16PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > mpsql (68054), 33 days old How on earth did this make it onto your list. I cannot remeber orphaning it at all. Michael -- Michael Meskes Michael@Fam-Meskes.De Go SF 49ers! Go Rhein Fire! Use Debian GNU/Linux! Use PostgreSQL

libgd1 vs. libgd1g

2000-09-04 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
Hi! I've noticed a serious problem with libgd1 (or, libgd1g) during the last month. And I don't really know what to do about. webalizer and linuxconf now depends on libgd1g, which currently isn't anymore available from our ftp-servers. And on the other hand libgd-perl depends on libgd1

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-04 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 2903T152152-0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE- ... > -END PGP MESSAGE- gpg: encrypted with 1024-bit ELG-E key, ID 22CC9EBE, created 2000-08-17 "Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" gpg: no secret key for decryption available gpg: decryption faile

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-04 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> > > > I had a 486 with 8Mb and with `bzip2 -s' I could use bzipped packages > > > > perfectly... are we talking about 4 Mb mechines? > > > Do you realize how much ram dpkg itself already takes up? Add that to > > > bzip2 and you are definitely swapping, even with 8 megs of RAM. Heck, > > > doing

Re: MIDI Notation Software

2000-09-04 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 09:07:42PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:31:03PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 03:12:40AM +0200, Enrique Robledo Arnuncio wrote: > > > I have not found any other free graphical MIDI notator for > > > linux. Maybe we wil

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-04 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 11:49:32PM -0300, Nicol?s Lichtmaier wrote: > > > > > Speed reasons - gzip is significantly faster than bzip2, which matters > > > > > for old ix86 (x=3,4) and m68k machines which run Debian. > > > > > > > > bzip2 also uses more memory which can be an issue with lowmemory >

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