On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, Paul Slootman wrote: > On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Ethan Benson wrote: > > It's unfortunate that there's no easy way to find the current runlevel > (the usual "who -r" from Solaris etc. doesn't work), otherwise this > piece of code could be used: > > RL=`who -r` > if [ -x /etc/rc$RC.d/S??$PKGNAME ]; then > /etc/rc$RC.d/S??$PKGNAME start > fi > > That's ignoring file-rc, unfortunately. Is there an easy way of > determining whether a certain init.d script should be started in > the current runlevel that works also with file-rc ?
I was going to tack this sooner or later (the "trust us, we KNOW you want the daemons to start always" current state of almost all daemon packages annoys me to no end, and from past flamewars I know I'm not the only one), I think I even warned a few newbies in -user two days ago about this :-) The solution is to *force* all daemon packages to never start a daemon out of its intended runlevel, be it during first install or upgrades (I think this probably requires a policy change). I'd even say this should be a goal for woody, unless we're going to try to get woody out of the door very fast. This would be managed through a simple (for sysvinit. I don't believe it'd be very complex for file-rc either, but I didn't check), standard script/program added to the sysvinit and file-rc packages (and any other future packages of the same sort) which allows a script to query if a certain init.d script should be started [in the current runlevel]. This assumes that the name of a daemon's init.d file is the generic ID for that daemon, but this is the current policy for Debian anyway (it's what you feed to update-rc.d). I should check if the LSB tries to do something like this in a non-braindamaged way, too... just in case. This could (IMHO should, but lets not go there) be expanded later to allow the administrator a bit more control over daemons being started on first install (before he reviewed config files, for example). As long as update-rc.d is called before running this script during package installs and upgrades, it would setup the default runlevels the daemon is supposed to run on. There would be no changes in behaviour of a standard debian install. Any comments? -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh
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