On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 01:11:03PM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> Since the teTeX in slink works fine and the one is potato is broken
> (a bug in babel which prevents compilation of *every* document in
> French), I prefer the old stuff.
I've provided information to close #42698, here it is ag
John Lapeyre writes:
>Maybe you find it easy. But you are relatively elite in debian
> knowledge.
I'm not a beginner. I even earn my living as an unix
administrator. But I'm certainly not a unix guru.
>I got a notebook two months ago. The video, sound, and pcmcia are
> not supported by
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 05:27:26PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> > it doesn't distract me at all. i mostly ignore it these days as it is of
> > little or no relevance to me.
>
> Safe to say, that is a really self-centered attitude. One which I hope
> that most developers don't have. Not a very team
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 09:18:00AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > > this same empirical evidence has also proved that 'stable' is LESS
> > > stable and reliable and secure than 'unstable'. the few debian boxes
> > > which i know of that have been compromised were cracked BECAUSE they
> > > were st
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Dylan Paul Thurston wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 01:11:03PM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> > Since the teTeX in slink works fine and the one is potato is broken
> > (a bug in babel which prevents compilation of *every* document in
> > French), I prefer the old stuff.
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 11:02:20PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 08:42:07AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > this same empirical evidence has also proved that 'stable' is LESS
> > stable and reliable and secure than 'unstable'. the few debian boxes
> > which i know of that have
Well, it's really sad that you like to dredge up year old context for this
thread to suit your mundane arguments, they have little context with what
I was saying.
> > > > resources on woody right now.
> > >
> > > speak for yourself. not everyone in debian has your priorities. more to
> > > the p
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 11:02:20PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 08:42:07AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > this same empirical evidence has also proved that 'stable' is LESS
> > stable and reliable and secure than 'unstable'. the few debian boxes
> > which i know of that have
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 08:42:07AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> this same empirical evidence has also proved that 'stable' is LESS
> stable and reliable and secure than 'unstable'. the few debian boxes
> which i know of that have been compromised were cracked BECAUSE they
> were still running stab
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 10:34:54PM +0100, Matthias Berse wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 03:16:56PM +0100, Martin Waitz wrote:
> > compile devicd3dfx-source and you are done :)
> Am I the only one where make-kpkg modules-image fails on devicd3dfx? I
> have to do it manually! But maybe that's relat
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 09:02:50AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 10:01:15PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 09:08:43AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> > > We are knee deep in a release cycle. We should not be expending our
> > > resources on woody right now
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 03:16:56PM +0100, Martin Waitz wrote:
> compile devicd3dfx-source and you are done :)
Am I the only one where make-kpkg modules-image fails on devicd3dfx? I
have to do it manually! But maybe that's related to my non debian
2.2.14 Kernel???
Thanks,
Matthias
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On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 04:01:51PM -0500, SCOTT FENTON wrote:
> Thanks. One more question (sorry!). Is there a way to do the equivilent
> of dpkg -L on an uninstalled package?
dpkg -c packagename.deb
Yes, it is documented in dpkg(8) :P
-mj
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Michael-John Turner | http://www.edr.uct.ac.za/
Thanks. One more question (sorry!). Is there a way to do the equivilent
of dpkg -L on an uninstalled package?
Colin Watson wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SCOTT FENTON) wrote:
> >Greetings all. I am in the process of engeneering a tryout of XFree 4
> >and I need to know this to continue. What packa
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 01:11:03PM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> Since the teTeX in slink works fine and the one is potato is broken
> (a bug in babel which prevents compilation of *every* document in
> French), I prefer the old stuff.
Surely that should be an important bug (#42698)? In fac
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 02:23:12PM +0900, Julian Stoev wrote:
> I personally don't like the Stormpkg thing. Maybe I am broken by
> dselect ;) I included slink ftp in apt and got many nice programs,
> which are not part of Stormix using dselect. No problem at all. But
> Stormpkg may be b
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 10:31:58AM -0800, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
> (does KDE yet use Qt2, which is the new QT license?),
No, it doesn't in 1.x. KDE 2.x will be linked against QT2.
> Is there a way to search the archives on debian-legal
> for QT? Maybe some of my questions will have answers
I t
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 01:23:58PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> > There is a ham radio program that I would like to see
> > as a debian package. As I am not currently a
> > developer, pehaps someone else might like to look into
> > packaging this. Otherwise, I will do it, if I can run
> > your gan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (SCOTT FENTON) wrote:
>Greetings all. I am in the process of engeneering a tryout of XFree 4
>and I need to know this to continue. What packages come directly from
>the XFree86 sources. I know the basics (xserver-*, xfree86-common), but
>does anyone have a complete list?
Install
The configuration script for cvs_1.10.7-6 mentions that you can create
a repository with standard permissions using cvs-makerepos. Is that a
program or an option to cvs or ...?
I couldn't find anything like that.
Greetings all. I am in the process of engeneering a tryout of XFree 4
and I need to know this to continue. What packages come directly from
the XFree86 sources. I know the basics (xserver-*, xfree86-common), but
does anyone have a complete list?
TIA,
To everyone that replied to my previous email.
It appears that QSSTV is licensed under the QT public
license. It is not clear if this is the older or
newer version of the QT license. However, there would
be no GPL infection here! I have emailed the author
to get more details. The license info
>From what I read on this subject, I thought that most
of the flame war was on KDE, and that it might be
possible to include KDE IF, they made certain specific
releases in their license. Since I thought that RMS
had appoved the newer QT license as a free license
(does KDE yet use Qt2, which is the
Kenneth Scharf wrote:
> The program is QSSTV (the ONLY slow scan TV program
> that I know of that works on Linux.) As the name
> implies, it is based on QT. It now (version 3.0m)
> works with both qt1.44 and 2.0.2. It is also GPL'ed.
> Hope it can go in main, or at least contrib.
> The URL is
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 10:08:34AM -0800, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
> Has the process for admiting new debian developers
> gone on line yet?
>
> There is a ham radio program that I would like to see
> as a debian package. As I am not currently a
> developer, pehaps someone else might like to look i
Has the process for admiting new debian developers
gone on line yet?
There is a ham radio program that I would like to see
as a debian package. As I am not currently a
developer, pehaps someone else might like to look into
packaging this. Otherwise, I will do it, if I can run
your ganlet and j
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 11:02:04AM -0500, Mark Mealman wrote:
> > I really don't like unstable either, but I've pretty much abandoned the
> > stable tree as too behind the times back when slink was nearing freeze.
>
> Here's a serious question for you: which parts are too old on slink
> to per
Ari Makela ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Filip Van Raemdonck writes:
>
> > And if they have this new hardware, does it mean they should not be
> > able to run Debian then? If that's the case, better start rewriting
> > some documentation...
>
> What I ment was that it's quite easy to upgrade Slin
*Ari Makela wrote:
> Joey Hess writes:
> > Ari Makela wrote:
> > > series kernel or newer XFree86. Neither it's difficult to change the
> > > kernel on the rescue floppy if the provided kernel does not support
> > > hardware. If, Samba, for example, is not new enough, it's not
> > > difficult to fe
This bug is listed as important bug against metamail. I do wonder though if
it is important enough to warrant a removal. This bug has been reported
against mime-support originally. Since no bug in mime-support was found it
was re-assigned to metamail. The bug log says:
I've looked at the mailcap f
Source: icradius
Section: net
Priority: extra
Maintainer: Piotr Roszatycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Standards-Version: 3.0.1
Upstream-Source: ftp://ftp.cheapnet.net/pub/icradius/>
Description: RADIUS daemon with PAM and MySQL support
Copyright: GPL
Package: icradius
Architecture: any
Provides: radiusd
C
>>On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 11:02:04AM -0500, Mark
>>Mealman >wrote:
>> I really don't like unstable either, but I've
pretty >>much abandoned
>>the stable tree as too behind the times back when
>>slink was nearing
>>freeze.
>Here's a serious question for you: which parts are
too >old on slink
>to
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 04:13:52PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
> > "Ben" == Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Ben> Next time please email me with correct version numbers and
> Ben> explain things a little better, other than just "it still
> Ben> doesn't work". I've never been
> > libglide2-v3 (libs) depends on device3dfx-module
> > device3dfx-module does not appear to be available
>
> That's Bug #57702, but it's not release critical, although it makes the
> package uninstallable!
Package: libglide2-v3
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.2), xlib6g (>= 3.3.6), device3dfx-module
Rec
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 10:01:15PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 09:08:43AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> > > Woody should be running 2.3 or pre-2.4. That should have been among
> > > the first things to change.
> >
> > We are knee deep in a release cycle. We should not be exp
Calm down man. The men in the white coats will be here soon.
Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 05:47:41PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
> > The realplayer installer package in potato is broken and useless because
> > Real has, in their infinite wisdom, removed version 6.x of the progr
Once again I am reading about the infamous debian
release cycle. I agree that having a stable distro is
important, but so is having up to date support for
critical items. For most of the packages in Debian,
not having the latest version is not a big deal as
these packages are so mature that grabi
Thanks a lot.
Joel
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Schulze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 12:03 PM
> To: SOETE Joël
> Cc: Debian Development
> Subject: Re: (Re)build a Debian package
>
>
> SOETE Joël wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I run Debian 2.1r4
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 01:44:09AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Another point is that to an extent. being outmoded means that
> fewer people use Debian; and, that implies that Debian no longer
> meets their goals. Not having released for nearly 18 months (that's 3
> generations in in
On Tuesday 14 March 2000, at 12 h 38, the keyboard of Paul Seelig
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Depends on the functions one needs. But i'd like to generalize a bit:
> the included *apps* are far too old. Stuff like teTeX,
Since the teTeX in slink works fine and the one is potato is broken (a b
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 10:55:31AM +0200, joost witteveen wrote:
> That was all march 10, nearly 4 days ago, and fakeroot still isn't
> dinstalled.
Was it rejected, or is it just stuck? If it was rejected, you have to
reupload, if it is stuck, then ssh to master, go into incoming directory,
and ru
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 10:29:23AM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote:
> I just noticed that the quota package (that I did maintain earlier) has a
> release critical bug. In fact it is only a typo. The quota maintainer seems
> to be unreachable. Is it okay, if I adopt the package for the time being or
> a
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 01:44:09AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Not having released for nearly 18 months [...]
Which eighteen months do you refer to here?
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enJoy -*/\*- don't even try to pronounce my first name
Fabrizio Polacco wrote:
> > bash-2.04$ man tr
> > Reformatting tr(1), please wait...
> > groff: troff: Segmentation fault
> >
> > ||/ Name Version
> > +++-=-==
> > ii groff 1.15-3.ja.2
>
> groff_1.15-3.ja.3 in Incomi
From: Hamish Moffatt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 11:02:04AM -0500, Mark Mealman wrote:
> > I really don't like unstable either, but I've pretty much
> > abandoned the stable tree as too behind the times back when
> > slink was nearing freeze.
>
> Here's a serious question
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 08:17:00PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
> > But slink is practically completely adjusted for 2.2 already.
>
> Sure, if you ignore the 12 packages that break
> (http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/running-kernel-2.2)
I believe 12 out of ~2250 counts as "practically completely"
SOETE Joël wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I run Debian 2.1r4 on a PC with an amd486 120 MHz and 16Mb of ram.
>
> I also recompile last release of Ckermit. To manage installed software, I
> would like make a package with this soft.
> I found also package sources (.dsc, orig.tar.gz and diff.gz files) of a
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 09:08:43AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> > Woody should be running 2.3 or pre-2.4. That should have been among
> > the first things to change.
>
> We are knee deep in a release cycle. We should not be expending our
> resources on woody right now.
speak for yourself. not ever
Hi,
Until recently I only had a PGP key, and as
suggested by /usr/share/doc/debian-keyring/README.gz, I've
now generated a GPG one, signed it with my PGP key, and
submitted it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A couple of hours later I uploaded a package (fakeroot_0.4.4-5)
signed with my new GPG keys.
That
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 11:02:04AM -0500, Mark Mealman wrote:
> I really don't like unstable either, but I've pretty much abandoned the
> stable tree as too behind the times back when slink was nearing freeze.
Here's a serious question for you: which parts are too old on slink
to perform the func
Ari Makela wrote:
> Yes, I've installed Slink on an exotic AST server hardware. 2.0 didn't
> work. There was nothing that was hard to fix.
You're a better man than I.
--
see shy jo
I just noticed that the quota package (that I did maintain earlier) has a
release critical bug. In fact it is only a typo. The quota maintainer seems
to be unreachable. Is it okay, if I adopt the package for the time being or
at least do a NMU?
Michael
--
Michael Meskes |
Joey Hess writes:
> Ari Makela wrote:
> > series kernel or newer XFree86. Neither it's difficult to change the
> > kernel on the rescue floppy if the provided kernel does not support
> > hardware. If, Samba, for example, is not new enough, it's not
> > difficult to fetch the sources and compile it.
Ari Makela wrote:
> series kernel or newer XFree86. Neither it's difficult to change the
> kernel on the rescue floppy if the provided kernel does not support
> hardware. If, Samba, for example, is not new enough, it's not
> difficult to fetch the sources and compile it.
Have you ever actually tr
Filip Van Raemdonck writes:
> And if they have this new hardware, does it mean they should not be
> able to run Debian then? If that's the case, better start rewriting
> some documentation...
What I ment was that it's quite easy to upgrade Slink to use 2.2
series kernel or newer XFree86. Neither
severity 59202 normal
thanks
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 07:36:12PM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>
> > Package: pilot-manager (debian/main).
> > Maintainer: Darren Stalder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 59202 pilot-manager: Method "GetRecord" missing in SyncPlan
>
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 07:32:06PM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>
> > Package: sawmill (debian/main).
> > Maintainer: Mikolaj J. Habryn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 59760 sawmill: Sawmill fails to load -- missing file
> > /usr/lib/rep/0.11/i686-pc-linux-gnu/
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 11:50:47AM +, Paul M Sargent wrote:
> On a side note. I'm really not sure that this 'release' stuff works
> on debian. Coordinating the development cycles of an infinite number
> of packages is impossible. What I would like to see is an unstable
> tree where all developm
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 21:54:09 -0500, Brian White wrote:
> Is there anybody here using the Sangoma WANPIPE cards to do X.25?
X.25 isn't particularly popular under Linux, but people do use it. Your best
bet for information is probably the linux-x25@vger.rutgers.edu list.
HTH,
Ray
--
Tevens ben
>>"Ari" == Ari Makela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ari> Manoj Srivastava writes:
>> It is a quality of imlementation issue. If we are seriously
>> outmoded, we can't honestly say we are trying to be the best
>> distribution out there.
Ari> I must say I completely fail to understand your poin
>>"Eray" == Eray Ozkural <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Eray> What happened to the package pools proposal? It's as if Debian
Eray> developers are suffering from amnesia. I guess the package
Eray> pools, as an idea at least, had found a significant appeal in
Eray> this list. According to some form
> "Ben" == Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ben> Next time please email me with correct version numbers and
Ben> explain things a little better, other than just "it still
Ben> doesn't work". I've never been able to reproduce this, on any
Ben> of the 4 machines that I am
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 08:17:00PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
> Josip Rodin wrote:
> > But slink is practically completely adjusted for 2.2 already.
>
> Sure, if you ignore the 12 packages that break
> (http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/running-kernel-2.2)
Most people can run 2.2 on slink withou
Moore, Paul wrote:
> I disagree. The approach taken by slink was sensible. Have 2.0 as the base,
> because it was QA'd to the high standards required by Debian, but include
> the latest 2.2 source package for people willing to upgrade. Adding a bit
> more support, in the form of including the equiv
Eray Ozkural wrote:
> What happened to the package pools proposal?
It's not been implemented.
> It's as if Debian developers are suffering from amnesia.
It's easy to be amnesiac about vaporware.
--
see shy jo
Josip Rodin wrote:
> But slink is practically completely adjusted for 2.2 already.
Sure, if you ignore the 12 packages that break
(http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/running-kernel-2.2)
--
see shy jo
Is there anybody here using the Sangoma WANPIPE cards to do X.25?
Brian
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When you love someone, you're always insecure.
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 11:21:58AM +1100, Brian May wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> details at:
> http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/57/57469.html
>
> I submitted this bug report and labelled at is important, since it
> prevented me from installing other packages (unless I put it on
> hold). I have since hear
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> Package: pilot-manager (debian/main).
> Maintainer: Darren Stalder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 59202 pilot-manager: Method "GetRecord" missing in SyncPlan
The pilot-manager package is quite useful even if SyncPlan doesn't work, which
I can neither confirm n
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> Package: sawmill (debian/main).
> Maintainer: Mikolaj J. Habryn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 59760 sawmill: Sawmill fails to load -- missing file
> /usr/lib/rep/0.11/i686-pc-linux-gnu/timers.so
This is filed against version 0.25-1. The version in potato is
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 05:47:41PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
> The realplayer installer package in potato is broken and useless because
> Real has, in their infinite wisdom, removed version 6.x of the program from
> their download sites now that they have a beta of 7.0. (Bug #60323.)
>
> So the inst
> > We are all using potato, but we are shipping slink, keep that in mind.
> This is *wrong* as is wrong the claim that "slink is useless". The vast
> majority of the machines I manage are slinks.
You, but most of us are using potato in production systems.
Slink is a year old. It was released
The realplayer installer package in potato is broken and useless because
Real has, in their infinite wisdom, removed version 6.x of the program from
their download sites now that they have a beta of 7.0. (Bug #60323.)
So the installer can't install anything. The package either needs to be
pulled f
Brian May wrote:
> I strongly suspect that problem is that the break cannot exit from the
> while loop. As a test example:
>
> perl -e 'while (1) { print "hi\n"; break; }'
>
> this never exits the loop. Then again does break even exist in perl??
> I think the fix is to replace "break" with "last"
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Steve Greenland wrote:
> Why not? Have you read the compiler/linker docs? Adding -I/some/dir/inc
> and -L/some/dir/lib causes those directories to be searched *before* the
> default directories. I don't have an opinion about where the X stuff
> should go, but the above argume
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 01:31:41PM +, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote:
> Paul M Sargent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > OK, Here's a question then. If Woody is unstable, which kernel is it
> > running?
>
> > Woody should be running 2.3 or pre-2.4. That should have been among the
> > first
> > things t
Hello All,
details at:
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/57/57469.html
I submitted this bug report and labelled at is important, since it
prevented me from installing other packages (unless I put it on
hold). I have since heard other people on debian-devel say that such a
bug should be grave.
The ma
On 13-Mar-00, 16:55 (CST), Alex Yukhimets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I often find myself in the position when I use X libraries (Xt
> mostly) built by myself with some changes to allow debugging of my
> Xt widgets. I install new libs and headers in another directory and
> -I/this/new/dir and -L/
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