> > I suggest to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as common identifier for Debian
> > friends. In case we get the money (why should we ?) I suggest to pass
> > 50% to Linux International and keep 50% for Debian.
>
> Please use an address at Linux International, not one in the Debian
> domain. It is not our
Ahh. Now that I think about it, I had problems in the early days of
19.34 releases, where it worked fine with some libc's and not with
others; it turned out that the best effect was compiling it with a
very new libc, then it didn't matter as much what it ran with. (Yeah
that sounds fuzzy -- it is
> Your're kidding ;-)? There're several really great HTML browsers like
> netscape, lynx etc. And you should remember that for example KDE will use
I don't think he's kidding. Lynx is *awful* for searching (it doesn't
even have a keystroke for "same pattern, next occurance"...) Netscape,
wel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Budde) wrote on 21.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> But this requires a www server! Not a good idea for slow systems like my
> notebook. And the result doesn't look great.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen)
> Isn't there a mini www server in Perl's web modules
Lynx
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen)
> Not everyone switched in 1752.
This is Pope Gregory's calendar reform, isn't it? I think it goes back a
century or more before 1752.
> Actually, it probably was a bad idea to use "leap" for both. Leap days are
> fixed by calendar design. Leap seconds a
Francesco Tapparo:
> Of course ae will be used in the boot disks, but in the default
> installation, joe must be the choiche, IMO.
From: Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> This is a editor war. Please don't continue it.
Don't worry, whether or not he continues it, he will be ignored.
There will
> I suggest to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as common identifier for Debian
> friends. In case we get the money (why should we ?) I suggest to pass
> 50% to Linux International and keep 50% for Debian.
Please use an address at Linux International, not one in the Debian
domain. It is not our policy to com
From: Francesco Tapparo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Of course ae will be used in the boot disks, but in the default
> installation, joe must be the choiche, IMO.
Debian policy for systems 2.0 and above will be to have _no_editor_
as part of the base system. If you want an editor, you must install
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Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Does this mean I can remove my des-solnet?
I think so.
> Anyway, we didn't win but the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address processed
> the most blocks of all email addresses.
People on the des-solnet mailing list seem to be heading towards the
Bovine RC5
LW> I've been compiling bo/source using the script I posted some
LW> time ago. Some common problems:
i modified your script and took some things from dpkg.buildpackage to
some sort of auto compiling. my script was working fine now, but i only
tested it on two packages of my own so far. when the r
Am 21.06.97 schrieb schwarz # monet.m.isar.de ...
Moin Christian!
CS> 2. The new "deity" (dselect successor) will simplify the handling of
CS> >1000 packages very much. I had another idea: Perhaps we could deity
CS> adopt to have an overall switch about which documentation the
CS>
On Sun, 22 Jun 1997, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> - having a central repository for autoconf test result might speed things
> up (I think autoconf supports this; someone should investigate)
Yes; I do it. You need to set the environment variable CONFIG_SITE to the
name of a file---I use /etc/config.s
> > g77: needs gcc source code to build
>
> There's really no way around this one, I'm afraid. Well, I could
> include the entire gcc code in the g77 package, but if you ask me to do
> that, I'll be morally obligated to strangle you. (Moving 8M through a
> 28.8k modem is No Fun.)
Uhm, w
The recent duplicate messages that appeared on debian-user and
debian-devel were my fault. An error in my procmail script was
resending things out, and I didnt catch it until several messages
slipped out.
I guess I should have tested it better before I unlocked the mail
queue.
Please forgive m
What about the motif-dummy thingie we discussed? How can I run plan having
Motif and not lesstif installed? Can you make sure it doesn't Depends: on
lesstif, but rather on a virtual package 'motif-libs' which lesstif, and a
to-be-created-dummy package for Motif owners, would provide. Is that doab
I have run into a few situations regarding packaging plan that I would
appreciate some comments on. I will begin by picking up where I left off
in a conversion before I left town for a couple of weeks.
On Fri, 6 Jun 1997, David Frey wrote:
> Hi Colin,
>
> On Thu, Jun 5 1997 14:59 EDT "Colin R. T
Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> fileutils: calls msgfmt with wrong arguments
No, you have the wrong msgfmt. :) {file,shell,text}utils require the
gettext package to be installed in order to build properly. This
package contains xmsgfmt, which formats text versions of translation
files into bina
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Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> It occurred to
> me that since most of the Debian packages
> are also available for m68k and also
> Sparc and Alpha now, the develops are probably
> using cross-compilation, rather than actually
> owning all these machines.
Nope. What hap
Hello,guys.
At some point I found that when I try to execute dpkg-source -x *.dsc
(for the most recent ddd in hamm) I got the error message:
dpkg-source: error: diff contains unknown line `\ No newline at end of
file'
What could be the reason for that?
And more, executing it on hello (!) package
> I've been compiling bo/source using the script I posted some
> time ago. Some common problems:
>
> - no newline at end
I still consider this a dpkg problem -- patch/diff themselves don't seem
to have any problems with this. Am I right here?
> - patch file creates subdirectories
I think here w
Colin Plumb wrote:
>
> Package: info, tin
> Version: 3.9-5, 970613-2
>
> Both of these packages depend on libc6 and ncurses3.4.
> I'm tracking hamm very closely, and have seen no sign of ncurses3.4.
> I haven't seen an ncurses version more recent than 1.9.9g, actually.
>
> Is there any particula
> > Run "cal 9 1752" and tell me that.
[..]
> A more serious problem is that the current implementation doesn't allow
> for non-Christian date systems, of which there are several in active use.
> I'd expect that to be a problem for people in both parts of Jerusalem, for
> example.
>
> Does a
Francesco,
Did you add your userid to the sudo group?
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sudo:*:27:edd
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On Jun 22, James Troup wrote
> Francesco Tapparo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I'm working to packaging xdaliclock
>
> Not for the main distribution I hope (bo/Packages):-
>
> Package: xdaliclock
> Version: 2.07-2
> Priority: optional
> Section: x11
> Maintainer: Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTE
Hi,
I'm working to packaging xdaliclock, but 've a problem with debmake:
I will use it with sudo, and the I've set my /etc/sudoers to
# Cmnd alias specification
Cmnd_Alias DEBIAN_NEEDED=/usr/bin/debpkg,/usr/bin/build
# User privilege specification
rootALL=(ALL) ALL
cesco ALL=/sbin/SVGATex
On Jun 22, James Troup wrote
> Francesco Tapparo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Joe is much better, IMO, and it's very newbie-friendly.
>
> hades|14:07:32 ~ [507] $ls -l $(type -path joe) $(type -path ae)
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root23968 May 5 01:36 /bin/ae
> -rwxr-xr-x 5 root
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christoph Lameter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Also check with Philip Hazel [EMAIL PROTECTED] who has done a significant
>amount of research on that issue for exim.
>The locking code in exim is probably the newest, most up to date code I know.
I just read the code in
Also check with Philip Hazel [EMAIL PROTECTED] who has done a significant
amount of research on that issue for exim.
The locking code in exim is probably the newest, most up to date code I know.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
: After all the talk about NFS lockfiles etc, and checking ou
2.0.31-2 does redirect traffic but does not change the port number. I am really
getting sick of the way the 2.0.X series is handled. There are buggy releases
but no
fixed releases coming. I am considering moving to 2.1.X but then 2.1.X does not
have all
the features 2.0.X has. What a crazy situat
After all the talk about NFS lockfiles etc, and checking out
Lars's "publib", I decided to write the locking functions
from scratch. Well not totally, it's partially based on the
qpopper locking stuff (which I also wrote).
ftp://ftp.cistron.nl/pub/people/miquels/testing/liblockfile-0.1.tar.gz
I s
According to Karl M. Hegbloom:
> > "Miquel" == Miquel van Smoorenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Miquel> I now have open() in a preloaded library, /lib/nfslock.so
> Miquel> that gets preloaded on all our machines through
> Miquel> /etc/ld.so.preload. Does about the same thing,
Nicolás Lichtmaier writes:
> On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, Paul Haggart wrote:
>
> > Anyone else having problems with klogd sucking up all their cpu time?
> > Even with it fully 'nice'd, it still uses 100%.
>
> Run `strace' against it!
... and mail me a copy of the results.
Regards
Joey
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On 22 Jun 1997, Kai Henningsen wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Budde) wrote on 21.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > But this requires a www server! Not a good idea for slow systems like my
> > notebook. And the result doesn't look great.
>
> There are other options. Getting a minimal, fast
On Jun 22, Kai Henningsen wrote
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Hudon) wrote on 21.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Newbies should *not* be dumped into vi by default. It's just too
> > user-hostile.
>
> There's only one text mode editor that's not just as user-hostile, and
> that's ae. That
On Jun 21, Christoph Lameter wrote
> Lilo 2.0 has the ability to display a file before the prompt and also the
> ability to boot something with a single keystroke. If someone could update
> the lilo package and provide a decent configuration then lilo could also
> offer a nice menu on boot up so th
hy.
if you have reasons to use 2.0.29, that's ok. but add a disk with
2.0.30 ! there are people like with buslogic scsi adapters, and that
adapter is not included in 2.0.29. not everyone has a second linux
system at hand, where he can download kernel-image-2.0.30 and modify the
bootdisk.
regards
Am 21.06.97 schrieb storm # gate.net ...
Moin "Scott!
"SKE> Except for those of us who don't want DWWW, don't want a web server, but
"SKE> do want to browse HTML under lynx. Then the links break if you compress
"SKE> it.
That's not true. We could compress the HTML files and browsers like lynx,
Am 21.06.97 schrieb schwarz # monet.m.isar.de ...
Moin Christian!
CS> However, HTML is getting more and more popular these days and I think it
CS> would be very unwise not to choose HTML as "preferred document format".
Right. A lot of companies will use HTML for their programms.
CS> To summariz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Budde) wrote on 21.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Am 20.06.97 schrieb kai # khms.westfalen.de ...
>
> Moin Kai!
KH>> I completely fail to understand why a professional system administrator
KH>> would _want_ to use a MTA that's _that_ notorious for security holes. My
KH>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Budde) wrote on 21.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> But this requires a www server! Not a good idea for slow systems like my
> notebook. And the result doesn't look great.
Isn't there a mini www server in Perl's web modules, about one or two
screend of Perl? (I don't re
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Goswin Brederlow) wrote on 21.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Bruce Perens wrote:
> >
> > If it thinks your CD is an audio disk, it would be an error in the "xaa"
> > file. The very first blocks on the CD tell what kind of CD it is.
> >
> > Bruce
> > --
> > Bruce Perens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Goswin Brederlow) wrote on 21.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The script should eigther reboot after the disk holding root is
> partitioned or try to remount root r/w. Rebooting is a bit anoying when
> you only changed the type of another partition from DOS\0 to LNX\0,
> wherea
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Hudon) wrote on 21.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Newbies should *not* be dumped into vi by default. It's just too
> user-hostile.
There's only one text mode editor that's not just as user-hostile, and
that's ae. That one seems to be completely unacceptable as a d
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Can someone explain to me exactly what POSIX time is? I was under the
It's just what you'd expect. Look at the calendar, get the timezone
difference (keeping in mind summertime laws), do the math, and get a
second counter. If a l
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) wrote on 21.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Someone wrote:
> > This is completely unacceptable. OS time must be predictable.
>
> Run "cal 9 1752" and tell me that.
Consider it done. And now?
(Besides, isn't that a bug in cal? Not everyone switched in 1752. In fa
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On Fri, 13 Jun 1997, Michael Meskes wrote:
>The title almost says it all. I just upgraded to pre-patch-2.0.31-2, but it
>seems transparent proxying still doesn't work. My first rule says:
>
>acc/r tcp anywhere anywhere any -> www => tpro
Erv Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'd rather fix the software bug that prevents bzImage from working on
> > some computers. Thus, I need good data on what those computers are,
> > and I need people with those computers to test new boot floppies.
>
Does not need any work. Please take the package, put your name in as a
maintainer and upload it. I wont consider this a done deal until the
package has your name in it.
On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, David Welton wrote:
>On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Christoph Lameter wrote:
>
>| I am listed as the maintainer of the
Dale says the sysklogd that is in testing for 1.3.1 has the problem of
klogd looping and eating time. The package maintainer (Joey) is looking
into it.
Bruce
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Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd rather fix the software bug that prevents bzImage from working on
> some computers. Thus, I need good data on what those computers are,
> and I need people with those computers to test new boot floppies.
Sounds good to me. I'll check the model number
> "Paul" == Paul Haggart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Paul> Anyone else having problems with klogd sucking up all
Paul> their cpu time? Even with it fully 'nice'd, it still uses
Paul> 100%.
I wonder if `syslogd' died, or if a file is gone that it's trying to
write on?
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From: Erv Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Well, i had trouble booting a toshiba tecra with bzImages except via
> loadlin. The solution was to use a simple zImage instead of the
> bzImage. Now, lilo, syslinux, etc all work.
I'd rather fix the software bug that prevents bzImage from working on
some c
Someone wrote:
> This is completely unacceptable. OS time must be predictable.
Run "cal 9 1752" and tell me that.
> Can someone explain to me exactly what POSIX time is?
Posix time includes leap-year-days, but does not include the finer
resolution of leap-seconds. 21 leap-seconds (number 22 is c
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> From: Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Tried it, and it hangs when booting bzImage from the hard drive too.
>
> Please tell me exactly what ThinkPad model this is.
I believe it's a 365X (16MB, ~800MB drive).
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From: Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> It's pretty clear to me that we'll have to support "info" in the future,
> since we would have to drop the "GNU" from "Debian GNU/Linux" otherwise.
Actually, I don't think FSF is sticky about this issue. Richard acknowledges
the existence of free brows
From: Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Tried it, and it hangs when booting bzImage from the hard drive too.
Please tell me exactly what ThinkPad model this is.
Thanks
Bruce
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> "Christian" == Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Christian> - Karl's "LockFile.pm"--a Perl implementation of
Christian> publib's lockfile (see
Christian> http://inetarena.com/~karlheg/Public)
It's not there anymore; I guess I can put it back up though. I'm not
reall
On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Christoph Lameter wrote:
| I am listed as the maintainer of the following packages in the distribution.
| These are available for other maintainers. I would especially welcome if
| someone who wants to become a debian developer would take a package or two.
| All packages have b
> "Miquel" == Miquel van Smoorenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Miquel> I now have open() in a preloaded library, /lib/nfslock.so
Miquel> that gets preloaded on all our machines through
Miquel> /etc/ld.so.preload. Does about the same thing, and lets us
Miquel> safely share mai
Are there any plans for Debian 1.3.1? When will it happin,
and what will be included? Will Xfree86 3.3 be included?
I am curious because I want to buy one of the CHEAP official
CDs, but I understand that the cheap cd makers are waiting
for 1.3.1, which means there are no cheap CDs yet...
-Erik
> "Christian" == Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> What happens? Can you describe the problem? Explain your
>> setup in more detail, please. I would like to know more about
>> the problems that are encountered with nfs.
Christian> The servers receives all ma
Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Install a bzImage kernel on the hard disk using LILO, and see if it will
> > boot. If it boots, it's only a problem with the floppy bootstrap. All of
> > our kernels are bzImage, so that should be easy to test.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Schulze) writes:
> I don't like the idea of splitting packages that much. It increses
> the confusion for users. For new users it is incredible difficult
> to install Debian because of >1000 packages.
I think keeping the user from having to deal with this complexity
(
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Install a bzImage kernel on the hard disk using LILO, and see if it will
> boot. If it boots, it's only a problem with the floppy bootstrap. All of
> our kernels are bzImage, so that should be easy to test.
Tried it, and it hangs when booting bzImage fro
Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> proposes:
>
> The documentation will be distributed via several packages:
>
> foo-doc-html for HTML docs
> foo-doc-info for GNU info docs (where available)
> foo-doc-xxx for other formats (only where appropria
On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, Paul Haggart wrote:
> Anyone else having problems with klogd sucking up all their cpu time?
> Even with it fully 'nice'd, it still uses 100%.
Run `strace' against it!
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So far, my solution is 'killall klogd' but I'm sure it's a pretty
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