Bug#446476: [tex-live] Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2008-02-12 Thread Hilmar Preusse
tags 446476 + fixed-upstream # moved ucs from collection-latexrecommended to collection-latexextra in TL. stop On 08.02.08 Karl Berry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi all, > > How should we proceed now? Move ucs from texlive-latex-recommended to > > texlive-latex-extra to narrow the user base of th

Bug#446476: [tex-live] Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2008-02-07 Thread Karl Berry
> How should we proceed now? Move ucs from texlive-latex-recommended to > texlive-latex-extra to narrow the user base of that package? I think that would be a good idea, but it should first be done in the upstream collections. What do others think? I moved ucs from collection-late

Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2008-02-06 Thread Frank Küster
Dear TeX Live team, Hilmar Preusse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 13.10.07 martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> As I think the issue is solved, I am reporting this as a bug >> against the Debian texlive-latex-base package. For more >> information: >> http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/20

Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2008-02-04 Thread Hilmar Preusse
On 13.10.07 martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, > Package: texlive-latex-base > Version: 2007-12 > > Thank you Donald! > > As I think the issue is solved, I am reporting this as a bug > against the Debian texlive-latex-base package. For more > information: > http://tug.org/pipermail/

Bug#446476: [tex-live] [texhax] Bug#446476: Bug#446476: Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2007-10-15 Thread Sebastian Rahtz
David Kastrup wrote: Personally, I gave up on all this ucs.sty/inputenc stuff last year and switched to xelatex instead. Now it's native Unicode joy every time, instead of endless problems once you stray beyond the latin world Does it do PassiveTeX? No. That would be a major undert

Bug#446476: [tex-live] [texhax] Bug#446476: Bug#446476: Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2007-10-15 Thread Chris Rowley
Sebastian Rahtz wrote -- > Personally, I gave up on all this ucs.sty/inputenc stuff last year and > switched to xelatex instead. Seconded: XeTeX is the One True Way! chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#446476: [tex-live] [texhax] Bug#446476: Bug#446476: Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2007-10-15 Thread David Kastrup
Sebastian Rahtz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Personally, I gave up on all this ucs.sty/inputenc stuff last year > and switched to xelatex instead. Now it's native Unicode joy every > time, instead of endless problems once you stray beyond the latin > world Does it do PassiveTeX? -- David K

Bug#446476: [tex-live] [texhax] Bug#446476: Bug#446476: Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2007-10-15 Thread Sebastian Rahtz
Personally, I gave up on all this ucs.sty/inputenc stuff last year and switched to xelatex instead. Now it's native Unicode joy every time, instead of endless problems once you stray beyond the latin world -- Sebastian Rahtz Information Manager, Oxford University Computing Services 13

Bug#446476: [texhax] Bug#446476: Bug#446476: Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2007-10-15 Thread Chris Rowley
Ralf > I am not sure, but the time to do this might be better spend extending > the Unicode-coverage of the UTF-8 implementation in inputenc.sty. > AFAIK that's the area where ucs.sty is still better than inputenc.sty. That would be true as utf8 in inputenc was deliberately limited to characters

Bug#446476: [texhax] Bug#446476: Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2007-10-15 Thread Ralf Stubner
On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 18:27 -0500, Karl Berry wrote: > it is not clear where they get their advice from. > > Sebastian decided as best he could, many years ago. Very little has > changed in the set of "recommended" TL packages for a long time now. At that time ucs.sty was probably the onl

Bug#446476: [texhax] Bug#446476: Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2007-10-14 Thread Karl Berry
it is not clear where they get their advice from. Sebastian decided as best he could, many years ago. Very little has changed in the set of "recommended" TL packages for a long time now. Anyway, the main point here is not the classification of ucs, but rather the possible bug in it. I see

Bug#446476: [texhax] Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2007-10-14 Thread Chris Rowley
Hi Norbert It is indeed a TeXlive recommendation and it is not clear where they get their advice from. Our problem is that so closely connecting latex and recommended suggests this may be our classification. This does not imply that we think that ucs.sty is wrongly classified; merely that the Pr

Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2007-10-14 Thread Ralf Stubner
On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 14:30 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Ralf Stubner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.10.13.1312 +0100]: > > > So I tried *again* to remove the utf8 characters from the bibtex > > > entries, and this time I guess I got them all (and previously must > > > have forgotten on

Bug#446476: [texhax] Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2007-10-14 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Chris, On Sa, 13 Okt 2007, Chris Rowley wrote: > > So this is starting to look like a bug in > > ucs.sty/texlive-latex-recommended then? > > Recomended by whom? I guess here is a small misunderstanding, the ucs.sty is contained in the TeX Live collection "collection-latexrecommend", which

Bug#446476: [texhax] Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2007-10-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Chris Rowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.10.13.1930 +0100]: > > So this is starting to look like a bug in > > ucs.sty/texlive-latex-recommended then? > > Recomended by whom? The bug is there if I use ucs.sty and it goes away when I switch from utf8x inputenc to utf8 and remove ucs.s

Bug#446476: [texhax] Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2007-10-13 Thread Chris Rowley
> So this is starting to look like a bug in > ucs.sty/texlive-latex-recommended then? Recomended by whom? Chris Rowley --- On behalf of the LaTeX3 Project Team -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2007-10-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Ralf Stubner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.10.13.1312 +0100]: > > So I tried *again* to remove the utf8 characters from the bibtex > > entries, and this time I guess I got them all (and previously must > > have forgotten one), and suddenly it works. > > recode --diacritics UTF-8..LaTeX I

Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2007-10-13 Thread Ralf Stubner
On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 12:24 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > So I tried *again* to remove the utf8 characters from the bibtex > entries, and this time I guess I got them all (and previously must > have forgotten one), and suddenly it works. recode --diacritics UTF-8..LaTeX > But this can't be,

Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2007-10-13 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 13 Okt 2007, martin f krafft wrote: > Unless he reads texhax, no. Can you please, since actually you know what it is about an can provide example files, and explain under what circumstances it did work. If you don't find time I will do it in due time, but not the next 2 weeks. Please Cc [

Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2007-10-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.10.13.1253 +0100]: > Did you contact the natbib author regarding this? I don't want to > bother him if you already have done it. Unless he reads texhax, no. -- .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : proud Debian developer, au

Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2007-10-13 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 13 Okt 2007, martin f krafft wrote: > So this is a natbib bug, it seems. Did you contact the natbib author regarding this? I don't want to bother him if you already have done it. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbe

Bug#446476: natbib cannot handle utf8

2007-10-13 Thread martin f krafft
Package: texlive-latex-base Version: 2007-12 Thank you Donald! As I think the issue is solved, I am reporting this as a bug against the Debian texlive-latex-base package. For more information: http://tug.org/pipermail/texhax/2007-October/009150.html also sprach Donald Arseneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]