Re: Naming questions, to the BSD list only

2003-12-20 Thread Momchil Velikov
> "Joel" == Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joel> No, it's debian-legal's to decide. To date, they have Joel> considered some form of renaming to be the only feasible Joel> option. >> >> I mean, of course, the lack of choices in your proposed balot. Joel> Then y

Re: GNU within the name

2003-12-20 Thread Momchil Velikov
> "Erik" == Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Erik> the question is whether you have a right in the first place. >> >> Yeah, I think it is part of the right of free speech, which is >> commonly accepted right in contemporary democratic countries and I >> really hope i

Re: GNU within the name

2003-12-19 Thread Momchil Velikov
> "Erik" == Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Erik>so you are one of the few that like the Jehova witnesses? I'm not familiar with this group(?). Erik>the question is whether you have a right in the first place. Yeah, I think it is part of the right of free speech,

Re: Naming questions, to the BSD list only

2003-12-19 Thread Momchil Velikov
>>>>> "Joel" == Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joel> On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 07:02:20PM +0200, Momchil Velikov wrote: >> >>>>> "Joel" == Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Joel> We hav

Re: Naming questions, to the BSD list only

2003-12-19 Thread Momchil Velikov
> "Joel" == Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joel> We have been asked, by the folks who own the name, that we do Joel> *something* to avoid using it in this context. Therefore, 'not Joel> changing' (from the old usage) is not a viable option. It would Joel> be extremely rude, and it coul

Re: GNU within the name

2003-12-19 Thread Momchil Velikov
>>>>> "Erik" == Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Erik> Momchil Velikov wrote: >>>>>>> "Erik" == Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Erik> I know that ms doesn't distribute gnu utils >> FWIW, they d

Re: GNU within the name

2003-12-19 Thread Momchil Velikov
> "Erik" == Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Erik> I know that ms doesn't distribute gnu utils FWIW, they do. GCC and GDB at least. Erik>just to clarify: at the same time, if debian is called debian Erik>gnu/linux system because debian developers decided that it should Erik>

Re: Naming questions, to the BSD list only

2003-12-19 Thread Momchil Velikov
> "Joel" == Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joel> The proposed naming schemes of which I am aware are as follows: Joel> 1) Christian demonology Joel> 2) Discworld gods Joel> 3) Tolkien Valar/Maiar Joel> 4) Greek mythology Joel> 5) Famous physicists and 6) NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD poss

Re: GNU within the name (Was: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s))

2003-12-19 Thread Momchil Velikov
> "Joel" == Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joel> RMS / FSF / GNU ask for the GNU prefix (where they consider it Joel> appropriate) Right. Joel> *NetBSD* is asking for it to be 'KNetBSD' rather than just 'NetBSD', Joel> because the latter, in their view (and theirs is the view one s

Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-18 Thread Momchil Velikov
> "Sven" == Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Sven> That would be a funny naming scheme. That said, how would we then Sven> differentiate the three BSD ports ? GNU/First one that shall not be Sven> named and so one ? Indeed ! GNU/First one that shall not be named GNU/Next one that shal

Re: GNU within the name (Was: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s))

2003-12-18 Thread Momchil Velikov
> "Mathieu" == Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mathieu> If we follow your theory, it means that if someday another Mathieu> system use the glibc, we should remove the GNU from the Mathieu> GNU/Linux name. FWIW, BeOS uses glibc. ~velco

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-18 Thread Momchil Velikov
> "Branden" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Branden> Remember, outside the Free Software community, copyright is Branden> used only as a destructive weapon, not a tool for promoting Branden> cooperation and harmony. It looks like not only outside Free Software community, con

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-17 Thread Momchil Velikov
>>>>> "Joel" == Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joel> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 10:33:30AM +0200, Momchil Velikov wrote: >> How can the use of ``NetBSD'' "dilute" the trademark, when it refers >> to a piece of the same softwa

Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)

2003-12-16 Thread Momchil Velikov
How can the use of ``NetBSD'' "dilute" the trademark, when it refers to a piece of the same software ? ~velco

Re: Glibc-based Debian GNU/KNetBSD

2003-12-12 Thread Momchil Velikov
>>>>> "Jimmy" == Jimmy Kaplowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jimmy> On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 02:40:05PM +0200, Momchil Velikov wrote: >> >>>>> "Jimmy" == Jimmy Kaplowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Jimmy> I can

Re: Glibc-based Debian GNU/KNetBSD

2003-12-12 Thread Momchil Velikov
> "Jimmy" == Jimmy Kaplowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jimmy> I can't find the exact messages for some of these examples of their Jimmy> experience, but one post mentioned that the poster had implemented Jimmy> applications using hundreds or thousands of threads; How can this be consider

Re: Glibc-based Debian GNU/KNetBSD

2003-12-03 Thread Momchil Velikov
> "Perry" == Perry E Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Perry> Why do you want NetBSD's kernel? You obviously believe everything that Perry> NetBSD has done is fecal, so what would the point of contaminating the Perry> "superior" GNU userland with a crappy NetBSD kernel? Done with the strawma

Re: Glibc-based Debian GNU/KNetBSD

2003-12-02 Thread Momchil Velikov
> "Perry" == Perry E Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Perry> In general, I can see why one would want to combine the advantages of Perry> Debian and NetBSD, but I can't see why one would want to produce Perry> something less functional than either. "Less functional" is apparently not the

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-21 Thread Momchil Velikov
> "Michael" == Michael Ritzert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Why is it important for debian BSD to sum up the Michael> differences in BSD libc and glibc? Maybe to justify choosing one or another ? Michael> - the dominance of glibc-based linux has forced IBM and Michael

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-20 Thread Momchil Velikov
> "Atifa" == Atifa Kheel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Atifa> e)Other Streams(like string streams,Obstack streams,etc) Atifa> glibc: Supported Atifa> BSD libc: Not Supported. wide oriented streams (wprintf, etc.) ? Atifa> 14. Atifa> Math Library Atifa> Support for Mathe

NetBSD port - status update

2002-11-24 Thread Momchil Velikov
Details on http://www.geocities.com/velcok/netbsd-gnu.html In two words - it works. The following packages were built and appear to work in a chroot(2) environment. The packages marked with a star (*) were built natively. The GCC was bootstrapped for C and C++. autoconf-2.56.tar.gz automake-1.4-

GNU libc port to NetBSD

2002-11-11 Thread Momchil Velikov
FYI, WIP: http://www.geocities.com/velcok/netbsd-gnu.html Have fun, ~velco