>>>>> "Erik" == Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Erik> the question is whether you have a right in the first place. >> >> Yeah, I think it is part of the right of free speech, which is >> commonly accepted right in contemporary democratic countries and I >> really hope is respected by Free Software developers, no matter if >> they are citizens of not so democratic ones.
Erik> so what? I said it's annoying, not illegal. I did not say they Erik> _cannot_ do it. Well, the phrase "the question is whether you have a right in the first place" sounds like questioning this right to me. Glad we don't have disagreement here. Erik> as I said it's completely different for debian developers - Erik> if a debian developer tries to convince other debian Erik> developers it's ok. if gnu tries to convince others to Erik> change the name it's not OK (that's what I said is annoying Erik> narcissism, not strictly wrong but even less right, IMO) >> >> I don't have the impression that Debian is a closed order, >> self-contained and isolated from the rest of the world. Erik> no it's not. Good! You know, in-breeding is dangerous, it's always better to be open to opinions outside one's immediate environment. Erik> it does not have anything to do with the issue though. the Erik> point is that debian developers are debian developers while Erik> fsf/rsm are outsiders asking number of parties (not only Erik> debian) to change the name. yes, they _can_ do that. but I Erik> consider it annoying and against common practice in free Erik> software world. I consider the TNF "request" MUCH more annoying, completely unfounded and dangerously playing with the (probably justified) fears from the US judicial system. ~velco