Re: Booting

2002-03-19 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
be modified to use the multiboot specification. I think that's possible. Miltiboot does support passing modules. The actual linkage (like symbol lookups etc) should be done in the kernel, because this is kernel-dependent. But I think this is already the case, isn't it? (Sorry, no time to

Re: Booting

2002-03-17 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 01:07:36PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 06:55:26PM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > This is certainly true. It's a wishlist item, it would be nice if all > > free kernels would use multiboot. I've heard that grub wi

Re: Booting

2002-03-17 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 12:16:46PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 05:25:12PM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > I think the best way is to make multiboot BSD kernel images. The > > multiboot standard is very flexible, it's included in the grub > >

Re: Booting

2002-03-17 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
x27;t be all > that hard - it's just one kernel and one primary filesystem (FFS) to make > sure function, to support the vast majority of BSD-land. I think the best way is to make multiboot BSD kernel images. The multiboot standard is very flexible, it's included in the grub d

Re: ed package

2002-02-02 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
erty in one package is wrong because they have a different upstream. I think the right way is having a libc package which depends on the libiberty package. Jeroen Dekkers -- Jabber supporter - http://www.jabber.org Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU supporter - http://www.debian.org http

Re: APT archive

2002-01-24 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
uild-Depend: foo [all-i386] Build-Depend: bar [linux-all] And then then the way to solve the X problems: Build-Depend: kernel-headers-2.4 [linux-all] Note that kernel-headers should be linux-headers actually. :)) Kernel-headers should be some meta package depending on the right headers for the right pla

Re: Dependancies on libc

2002-01-24 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
lled. A lot of kernel-specific things are already fixed because we want them to compile on Debian GNU/Hurd. But the Hurd also uses glibc, I expect really much trouble with that. Most people just don't know how to write portable or don't care about it. I don't know if I'm the

Re: Debian GNU/NetBSD, some comments..

2002-01-24 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
commended (we've the translator interface for that). We have other ways of handling network. The ifconfig program comes from the GNU inetutils packages and is written portable as far as you can write an ifconfig program portable. IIRC it's able to emulate semantics of other if

Re: built some packages..

2002-01-23 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
tuff should still be uploaded to non-US. People living in the US should not upload those files to a non-US server. Jeroen Dekkers -- Jabber supporter - http://www.jabber.org Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU supporter - http://www.debian.org http://www.gnu.org IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpD4O

Re: Patch for dpkg-shlibdeps

2002-01-22 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
> > dpkg-shlibdeps. If it works we could put more pressure on the dpkg > > maintainers. > > I'll give it a try sometime after I get python working. However, unless it > doesn't use ldd, it probably won't work either. It uses objdump, so it should wo

Re: Patch for dpkg-shlibdeps

2002-01-22 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
ve problems with the current dpkg-shlibdeps. If it works we could put more pressure on the dpkg maintainers. Jeroen Dekkers -- Jabber supporter - http://www.jabber.org Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU supporter - http://www.debian.org http://www.gnu.org IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpIYo3LTQK54.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Berkeley/Sleepycat DB

2002-01-21 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
x27;t get it right. They have to check it anyhow if you compile them on *BSD instead of Debian GNU/*BSD. Most of the time portability is a better thing than some dirty hacks. Jeroen Dekkers -- Jabber supporter - http://www.jabber.org Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU supporter - http://www.debian.org http://www.gnu.org IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpUvCjf6ENML.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: GNU GNU GNU

2002-01-19 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Gelezen in de Debian Packaging Manual: Maybe you should change this to "Read in the Debian Packaging manual" for all people who don't speak Dutch. :) Jeroen Dekkers -- Jabber supporter - http://www.jabber.org Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU supporter - http://www.debian.org http://www.gnu.org IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpFSgGXXMHtE.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: GNU GNU GNU

2002-01-19 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
e are doing here. We might as well say so. > > Please don't say "we". I personally feel like I am sometimes forced to use > GPL'd projects. (This is getting off-topic for this list, but I'd be glad > to expand on this.) I think you use GPL'd software,

Re: "Why Debian NetBSD"

2002-01-19 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 11:52:58AM -0800, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > > Apart from that a lot ofthings come from GNU and they they deserve > > credit, there is also another reason. It's spreading the words of > > freedom

Re: Website and library packages

2002-01-19 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 11:48:59AM -0800, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 12:08:00AM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > > I've now uploaded the web page to http://debian-bsd.sf.net and am > > >

Re: "Why Debian NetBSD"

2002-01-18 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
be for GNU/NetBSD, but at the same > time I have no desire whatsoever for us to end up alienated from the > NetBSD people who have provided such useful advice so far. Comments? Reading other mails on the list the NetBSD people don't have much problems with it. Jeroen Dekkers -- Jabber supporter - http://www.jabber.org Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU supporter - http://www.debian.org http://www.gnu.org IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpxuOhz6xtUX.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: "Why Debian NetBSD"

2002-01-18 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
get the *BSD folks > screaming bloody murder due to further forking. Forking looks useless to me. I don't know how incompatible the different BSDs are, but if we can hide it in the C library I don't think it will be a really big problem. Jeroen Dekkers -- Jabber supporter - http://www.jab

Re: Website and library packages

2002-01-18 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
everyone else think? I think we should do it the way it's currently done in Debian for now. If we want to use CVS, we should set it up Debian-wide. I like the idea of using CVS for Debian source packages. Jeroen Dekkers -- Jabber supporter - http://www.jabber.org Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debi

Re: Website and library packages

2002-01-18 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
27;t know what's going on at sourceforgetit, I suggest you read: http://www.fsfeurope.org/news/article2001-10-20-01.en.html Jeroen Dekkers -- Jabber supporter - http://www.jabber.org Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU supporter - http://www.debian.org http://www.gnu.org