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On Monday 29 October 2007, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Monday 29 October 2007, Frans Pop wrote:
> > 1) Should allow the use of ctrl-alt-Fx for console switching
> > For the graphical installer the _only_ way to switch from the main
> > console to any of the others is to use the ctrl-alt- key
> > combinat
On Wednesday 31 October 2007, Frans Pop wrote:
> I've created a wiki page for VirtualBox that explains this.
A link to the page would probably be useful:
http://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox
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On Friday 26 October 2007, Joey Hess wrote:
> > As argued above, loading multiple CDs in no way conflicts with using a
> > mirror. IMO we have to always ask both questions.
>
> Neither does inst
Hello,
I tried to use the installer on a box which had a Linux system
suspended on one disk. As I noticed that os-prober mounts the
partitions I did not try to resume.
According to the software suspend documentation this could cause
serious data loss, especially since the filesystem loses consiste
On Wednesday 31 October 2007, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> I tried to use the installer on a box which had a Linux system
> suspended on one disk. As I noticed that os-prober mounts the
> partitions I did not try to resume.
> According to the software suspend documentation this could cause
> serious da
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2007/10/27, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Frans Pop wrote:
> No, it's much more natural to optimise for the common case, which is
> using a mirror. Users should not be encouraged to scan huge piles of CDs.
> Huge piles of CDs are obsolete in all but a very few edge cases.
Not at all. Does the f
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Jérémy Bobbio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi!
>
> The next monthly meeting for the d-i team was scheduled for Wednesday
> 31th October at 20:00 UTC. As before, a wiki page [1] is available to
> prepare the agenda and know who will be attending.
>
>
On Wednesday 31 October 2007, Frans Pop wrote:
> > Neither does installing lilo to one disk and grub to another, but d-i
> > does not prompt the user to choose if they want to use lilo, and follow
> > that up with a separate prompt about whether to use grub. Instead d-i
> > allows the -0.1% of
On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 05:36:20PM -0600, dann frazier wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 07:14:06PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote:
> > Would someone please post irc logs for those of us who can't make that date?
>
> Yes, we will.
Here ya go:
http://meetbot.debian.net/meetbot/debian-release.20071031
On Wednesday 31 October 2007, Praveen A wrote:
> [...], when Ubuntu gives everything a normal user wants in one CD.
That's not quite true. AFAIK Ubuntu only distributes _DVDs_ and I'm fairly
sure that if you take a Debian DVD you will find most of what you would
want on the first DVD as well.
T
Frans Pop wrote:
> OK, but in your proposal the option to scan additional CDs is _not asked at
> all_ if they choose to use a mirror. A significant difference I'd say.
Asking the CD question in expert mode if a mirror has been configured is
not significantly different than allowing lilo to be cho
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On Wednesday 31 October 2007 19:23, Frans Pop wrote:
> And, as said before, I think it is wanted a lot more than you think. Not
> for full sets, but I think for a lot of users downloading the first 2-4 CDs
> can be a very sensible option.
Debian Edu pretty much wants that, to be able to dist
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On 31/10/2007, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 31 October 2007, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> > I tried to use the installer on a box which had a Linux system
> > suspended on one disk. As I noticed that os-prober mounts the
> > partitions I did not try to resume.
> > According to th
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On Wednesday 31 October 2007, Joey Hess wrote:
> It seems logical to me; the installer wants to find as complete as
> possible a copy of the debian archive and doesn't really need to
> continue to find other copies once one has been found. Same reason it
> doesn't ask for CDs after you've given it
Op 31-10-2007 om 21:44 schreef Michal Suchanek:
> Well, this is another problem that might be solved by the solution
> suggested for that bug.
>
> To paraphrase what you are saying, using Debian software on a system
> is inherently risky, as you can never be sure what changes it does.
> Compoundin
Op 31-10-2007 om 22:23 schreef Frans Pop:
> It's logical from the installer's pov, but not from a _user's_ pov.
> How the hell is he supposed to guess that he will be asked about additional
> CDs later when confronted with a question about a network mirror?
>
> If I (as a newbie) were confronted
On Wednesday 31 October 2007, Geert Stappers wrote:
> In the Commodore 64 days, I had the game "Fort Apocalypse".
/me had the same game :-)
> Please design with an user (so not a newbie) in mind.
>
> For those who are worried about "elite" and such:
> Really "elite-ish" is to assume that the pers
Hi Joey
On 10/29/07, Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-29 16:12]:
> > Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
> > > Thanks, Joey. Installations now work properly on NSLU2.
> >
> > FWIW, I can't see how flash-kernel ordering would influence
> > locale
Quoting Frans Pop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Your mail seriously put me off for a few days, so I've given myself some
> extra time to think about it.
I went through all this discussion as I feel pretty important to get
this issue solved and decided.
May I attempt to summarize how I see the "dispute
Op 31-10-2007 om 21:53 schreef Holger Levsen:
> Hi,
>
> On Wednesday 31 October 2007 19:23, Frans Pop wrote:
> > And, as said before, I think it is wanted a lot more than you think. Not
> > for full sets, but I think for a lot of users downloading the first 2-4 CDs
> > can be a very sensible optio
Op 01-11-2007 om 07:15 schreef Christian Perrier:
> As a conclusion, I really would like to see Frans proposal
> implemented. The plan he proposed seems right to me.
Funny.
To me it was allways interresting to see that the debian-installer is
build by people who have an installed computer.
U
Frans Pop wrote:
> It's logical from the installer's pov, but not from a _user's_ pov.
> How the hell is he supposed to guess that he will be asked about additional
> CDs later when confronted with a question about a network mirror?
>
> If I (as a newbie) were confronted by that question I would
Christian Perrier wrote:
> Frans' proposal adds an extra question when doing CD installs, to
> prompt users whether they want to use another CD or not. This, even if
> they did choose a network mirror before.
It asks for all the CDs first, there's no path through the install that
asks about a netw
Quoting Geert Stappers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Op 01-11-2007 om 07:15 schreef Christian Perrier:
>
> > As a conclusion, I really would like to see Frans proposal
> > implemented. The plan he proposed seems right to me.
>
> Funny.
Sorry but I have actually no clue to understand what you mean
Op 01-11-2007 om 08:15 schreef Geert Stappers:
>
> I have the feeling that installing a computer became more important
> then have an installed computer.
| I have the sad feeling that installing a computer became more important
| then having an installed computer.
Make the install quick[1] so th
(side comment in this thread)
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> [1] apt's estimate is not currently exposed to the user by apt-setup,
> but this should be fixable by using debconf-apt-progress.
Whatever choice we make in this thread, that seems to be an
interesting enhancement, yes.
Op 01-11-2007 om 08:49 schreef Christian Perrier:
> Quoting Geert Stappers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > Op 01-11-2007 om 07:15 schreef Christian Perrier:
> >
> > > As a conclusion, I really would like to see Frans proposal
> > > implemented. The plan he proposed seems right to me.
> >
> > Funny.
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