Bug#422966: Etch installation on Tatung CompStation10

2007-05-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 07:01, Earl wrote: > Comments/Problems: when I tried to do the hard drive, using the manual > partition option, I got i386 type partitions (primary and logical > partitions). I accepted the partitioning and was told that SILO > wouldn't load. It was right. The only way I

Re: partition utiltiy

2007-05-09 Thread Geert Stappers
Op 09-05-2007 om 21:48 schreef Debian Wiki: > Dear Wiki user, > > You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on "Debian Wiki" for > change notification. > > The following page has been changed by FransPop: > http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/LennyGoals > > The comment on the chang

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2007-05-09 Thread Debian Installer
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Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I use and like 'quiet' myself. I'd have no problems with adding that as a > default boot parameter. *if* we go for usplash installed on either all or some installations, I think it would be good to add a bootloader menu entry with "nosplash" and without "

Re: lenny d-i confused about disk detection

2007-05-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 22:14, John Morrissey wrote: > > It looks like the utility 'parted_devices' is not returning any > > output. What do you get if you run that command on VT2 after the > > first time the disk detection phase is executed? > > ~ # parted_devices > Floating point exception OK.

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Christian Perrier
> > IMHO, you need to get that major of users will be coming from Windows > > World and then those "ugly texts while booting" worry them much more > > then helps. > > Are those our primary target audience? Yes. Mine at least. They are part of our target, either directly or indirectly. I

Re: About console-setup in d-i

2007-05-09 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Anton Zinoviev ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:04:31AM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote: > > > > The next problem is who has to upload kbd... > > I wasn't clear here. My point was that while I can make some > improvements in this package (fix some bugs), I don't feel myself

Processed: Re: Bug#422370: should switch to grub2 when using GPT

2007-05-09 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#422370: should switch to grub2 when using GPT

2007-05-09 Thread Frans Pop
tags 422370 - patch thanks On Wednesday 09 May 2007 22:02, Robert Millan wrote: > Here it is. I tested it with grub-installer from trunk, but only in > combination with an etch installer because of current > mklibs/gcc/binutils breakage. Sorry, but depending on parted-udeb for this is IMO not ac

Bug#423109: grub-installer: Does not work with symlinks in fstab

2007-05-09 Thread David Härdeman
Package: grub-installer Version: 1.24 Severity: normal When experimenting with scripts to create persistent device names in debian-installer, I found that grub-installer creates an incorrect configuration if symlinks are used in /target/etc/fstab. For instance, with a fstab like this: ... /de

Re: lenny d-i confused about disk detection

2007-05-09 Thread John Morrissey
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:39:04PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > On Wednesday 09 May 2007 20:40, John Morrissey wrote: > > The local disks are detected without a problem; the /dev/sd* symlink is > > set correctly, and I can fdisk(8) the drives with no problem. However, > > the install displays disk-det

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread David Härdeman
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:19:34AM +0200, David Härdeman wrote: unstable now has a recent version of usplash which supports user input (yay, cryptsetup passphrase prompts) and a new debian theme, so perhaps it would be a good idea to add usplash to the Desktop task? And for those who are curiou

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Bug#422370: should switch to grub2 when using GPT

2007-05-09 Thread Robert Millan
tags 422370 patch thanks On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 03:00:15PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > Package: grub-installer > Severity: important > > As of 1.95+20070505-1, grub2 supports GPT on PC/BIOS systems [1]. When user > is installing a GPT disk, grub-installer should automaticaly switch to grub2 >

Re: lenny d-i confused about disk detection

2007-05-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 20:40, John Morrissey wrote: > The local disks are detected without a problem; the /dev/sd* symlink is > set correctly, and I can fdisk(8) the drives with no problem. However, > the install displays disk-detect/module_select: > > No disk drive was detected. If you know the

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 20:24, Joey Hess wrote: > Frans Pop wrote: > > I agree with that. One my desktop I currently get a fat red FAILED > > during shutdown because an LVM volume cannot be unmounted as it is in > > use (or maybe it is still #402511, I have not investigated). > > Totally stupid. >

lenny d-i confused about disk detection

2007-05-09 Thread John Morrissey
Hopefully d-boot is the right place for this question. If not, please point me in the right direction. :-) I'm having a problem installing lenny. Last Friday (4 May), we did several lenny installs, but the next batch we did the following Tuesday (8 May) failed. The local disks are detected withou

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Joey Hess
Frans Pop wrote: > I agree with that. One my desktop I currently get a fat red FAILED during > shutdown because an LVM volume cannot be unmounted as it is in use (or > maybe it is still #402511, I have not investigated). > Totally stupid. I'm not sure what's totally stupid about this, but any st

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Joey Hess
Bernhard R. Link wrote: > as humans are better at coping with errors than humans are. ? > And by the way, showing the user how many useless things start at > install time can only be a good indication for them to think about > deinstalling most of them. Hiding how many unneded daemons lurk around

Bug#422075: installation-report: multi-arch chose i386 instead of amd64

2007-05-09 Thread Luca Capello
reassign 422075 debian-cd thanks On Thu, 03 May 2007 19:36:10 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > reassign 422075 debian-cd > thanks [...] > Reassigning to debian-cd for this issue. I guess you forgot to [b]cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], because it seems that the bug still belongs to installation-reports. I'm rea

Processed: Re: Bug#422075: installation-report: multi-arch chose i386 instead of amd64

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Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Joey Hess
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > There is information presented to me durng > boot, which has some (perhaps marginal) value. Pretty colors are > mostly contentless, so have _less_ value, at the very least, they > contribute nothing. Actually, usplash exposes information that was not previousl

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 10:42, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > The main problem with all coloration and graphical output is that it > can only show problems anyone expected. The old Debian scripts output > was quite uniform and thus anything out of the row was easy to spot > and look what it is. Now som

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 16:01, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > I agree that this would be a good idea. The version of Debian Edu > based on Etch already uses usplash by default, to reduce the confusion > when new users boot the system, and provide a less frightening boot > experience. We also boot

Re: About console-setup in d-i

2007-05-09 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:04:31AM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote: > > The next problem is who has to upload kbd... I wasn't clear here. My point was that while I can make some improvements in this package (fix some bugs), I don't feel myself qualified to maintain it. Anton Zinoviev -- To UNS

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 09 May 2007 09:58:55 -0300, Otavio Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Well, I respect your opinion while I continue to disagree. We ought to > attract the user and look-and-feel makes difference. Why? Why should we try to be the microsoft of the Linux world? Why should we put

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 9 May 2007 01:14:55 -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Sorry, I'll try to rephrase without the use of arbitrary figures: > Nobody in their right mind wants to read verbose success messages from > 91[1] distinct startup scripts on every boot. Saying that novice > users ne

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[David Härdeman] > unstable now has a recent version of usplash which supports user input > (yay, cryptsetup passphrase prompts) and a new debian theme, so perhaps it > would be a good idea to add usplash to the Desktop task? I agree that this would be a good idea. The version of Debian Edu base

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Otavio Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070509 15:03]: > > And by the way, showing the user how many useless things start at > > install time can only be a good indication for them to think about > > deinstalling most of them. Hiding how many unneded daemons lurk around > > only contributes to bloat

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Otavio Salvador
"Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And by the way, showing the user how many useless things start at > install time can only be a good indication for them to think about > deinstalling most of them. Hiding how many unneded daemons lurk around > only contributes to bloat. Do you real

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Otavio Salvador
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why do you think the regular users are so much beneath you > that they are too dumb to handle information? I don't. I think that if the user wants more information he'll likely start to find o

Re: Announcement of the Kannada translation effort

2007-05-09 Thread Praveen A
2007/5/9, Vikram Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I wanted to extend my warm wishes to all here. Our team is working on localising the Debian system to Kannada(kn_IN). So hope give to it our best. :-) All the best from your neighbors -- the Debian Malayalam Team. Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ

Re: Announcement of the Kannada translation effort

2007-05-09 Thread Vikram Vincent
On 09/05/07, Vikram Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello all, I wanted to extend my warm wishes to all here. Our team is working on localising the Debian system to Kannada(kn_IN). So hope give to it our best. :-)

Re: Support OpiStat

2007-05-09 Thread Jollypas
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Announcement of the Kannada translation effort

2007-05-09 Thread Vikram Vincent
Hello all, I wanted to extend my warm wishes to all here. Our team is working on localising the Debian system to Kannada(kn_IN). So hope to it our best. -- Regards Vikram Vincent +919448810822 http://groups.google.com/group/bangalore_alive/ http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Campaign_to_promote_free_softw

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070509 10:15]: > Users who have better things to do with their time than pore over boot > messages, including me, don't care about boot-time output unless something > fails; and if anything the current default verbosity of our boot scripts > makes it *harder* t

Bug#415127: installation-report: Graphical install does not work on Apple MacBook

2007-05-09 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti
Davide Viti ha scritto: Very recently a patch [1] was pushed upstream in directfb, which is supposed to fix a similar crash on ppc (#422146), again due to linux_input. If you have time, could you please try rebuilding directfb udeb with Ville's patch and rebuild a gtkminiiso for testing? I'v

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti
David Härdeman ha scritto: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:24:01PM +0200, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote: Otavio Salvador ha scritto: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: My standpoint is that installing (or at least activating) splashy should only be done if it is *known* beforehand that the display

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 02:30:31AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Tue, 8 May 2007 16:25:37 -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> Why should the default be an option with less value? > > Because there's a difference between data and information, and 99% of > > the *information

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread David Härdeman
On Wed, May 9, 2007 9:28, Manoj Srivastava said: > On Wed, 09 May 2007 02:22:15 +0200, David Härdeman said: >> On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:17:55PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> "Hiding information"...I remember when most Linux distros had xconsole >> running in the background in X per default in

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread David Härdeman
On Wed, May 9, 2007 8:23, Joey Hess said: > David Härdeman wrote: >> The 15-sec timeout are not really bugs in the sense that they'll degrade >> anything (it just doesn't look pretty). > > Having a system that randomly[1] flips out of the pretty graphics that a > user has come to expect and into so

Bug#415127: installation-report: Graphical install does not work on Apple MacBook

2007-05-09 Thread Davide Viti
>Very recently a patch [1] was pushed upstream in directfb, which is >supposed to fix a similar crash on ppc (#422146), again due to linux_input. >If you have time, could you please try rebuilding directfb udeb with >Ville's patch and rebuild a gtkminiiso for testing? > I've tried an iso image u

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 8 May 2007 16:25:37 -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Why should the default be an option with less value? > Because there's a difference between data and information, and 99% of > the *information* in the boot sequence can be conveyed much more > efficiently using color

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 09 May 2007 02:22:15 +0200, David Härdeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:17:55PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Tue, 8 May 2007 18:39:28 +0200, Christian Perrier >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >>> It is also perfectly obvious that nice boot environments te

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 9 May 2007 06:46:38 +0200, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > Why should the default be an option with less value? >> >> Well, maybe because majority of users start to use a system because >> they think it's beautiful and neat? :-D > That is *exactly* my point. So

Re: usplash in desktop task?

2007-05-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 08 May 2007 20:17:48 -0300, Otavio Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> However, who *really* uses that information in normal situations? >> >> Well, not all the world is exactly like you. I routinely "use" the >> information. > While I

Re: About console-setup in d-i

2007-05-09 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 06:53:24PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > I have no idea what the real differences between kbd and console-setup are > and what the future of both packages will be next to console-setup. Console-setup detects which one is installed so it doesn't matter. Kbd supports large c

Re: About console-setup in d-i

2007-05-09 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 07:33:39PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > On Friday 27 April 2007 15:04, Anton Zinoviev wrote: > > > Can you give some idea of what would be needed? Some questions I > > > have: > > > - would we still need kbd-chooser, or is there a replacement > > > > We need it only during the