Re: redesigning the debian installer

2000-09-15 Thread Vagn Scott
Mircea Luca wrote: > I was thinking more of archiving the whole system in place, > then use the archive to restore,not reinstalling from scratch I'm working on this. You have private mail. -- _~|__ >@ (vagn( / \`-o-'/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: woody Debian Installer plans

2000-09-15 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 03:40:07PM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote: > Hmm, im out of my depth here, ive never used pcmcia before, i dont see > why it could be used under linux, and then reconfigured for hurd. > > cross-posting to debian-boot, others have more clues than me. We install PCMCIA onto the

Re: woody Debian Installer plans

2000-09-15 Thread Glenn McGrath
> Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > > > On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 12:36:56PM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote: > > > How important is it for the Hurd to have a native installer? > > > > > > Im sure the Hurd users would prefer to not have to depend on "foreign" > > > kernels, but is it practical ? > > > > > >

Re: test i386 potato boot-floppies available

2000-09-15 Thread Adam Di Carlo
It helps if I give a URL, eh? http://auric.debian.org/~aph/bf/2.2.17-2000-09-14/> -- .Adam Di [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.onShore.com/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Problem using boot disk to install

2000-09-15 Thread Adam Di Carlo
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes, I have tried booting from the CD. I get the EXACT same results. I'm sorry -- I have lost track of the original problem report. It would be easier for us to track it if you would file a bug report. The install manual has some instructions on

Re: potato-installation

2000-09-15 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Daniela Kaminski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I tried to install the debian gnu linux 2.2 "potato" on an old pentium > mashine. I started with the rescue and the root floppy disk and the base > sytem was installed from the cd-rom drive. After rebooting the system > with the prepared boot floppy

test i386 potato boot-floppies available

2000-09-15 Thread Adam Di Carlo
We're trying to pull together 2.2.17 boot-floppies release. It fixes a lot of problems relative to the 2.2.16 boot-floppies -- see changelog snippet below. This is the Martin Schultz release -- kudos to him to all his hard work chugging thru the bugs. I know a lot of people have moved on from

Re: bad press at www.linuxworld.com

2000-09-15 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Steve Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [1] Thought we'd need driver disk too, from the docs, and burned it. > Didn't need it. The docs weren't perfect but erred in the direction of > not leaving us a disk short nor explaining a lot of if-then-else cases. > The time saved not reading all the

Re: bad press at www.linuxworld.com

2000-09-15 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Van Buggenhaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 07:59:17PM -0300, Carlos Barros wrote: > > One thing not so clear is the location of rescue disks and the documents for > > a person new to debian. > > I agree with this. Location of rescue disks is really hard to guess. Reall

Re: redesigning the debian installer

2000-09-15 Thread Niall Young
Re: automating mass installs there are a number of projects to do exactly this, most notably FAI. It'd be wise to take a look at these as they all suggest different solutions to the same problems: FAI http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ NAIShttp://www.informatik.uni-k

Bug#71606: Debian on T1900 laptop.

2000-09-15 Thread Adam Di Carlo
"Philippe Geyskens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thanks for responding. Actually, I made a mistake in my description header: > 4MB of RAM is the base, but I have a 8MB card inserted that shows up on my > system as extended memore. The error message I listed below occurs when the > card is inse

Re: redesigning the debian installer

2000-09-15 Thread Mircea Luca
"Bernhard R. Link" wrote: > > > IMHO would be more easier for this specific case to just install the > > desired configuration,then have a small program(set of shellscripts, > > whatever) that will > [...] > > 5.reboot > > > > Does this seems viable and easy to implement or it's just > > "overc

Re: redesigning the debian installer

2000-09-15 Thread Herbert Xu
Massimo Dal Zotto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my opinion ash lacks many useful features, for example variable expansion. FUD. Ash has always supported the parameter expansions required by POSIX. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL

Re: redesigning the debian installer

2000-09-15 Thread Joey Hess
Massimo Dal Zotto wrote: > I would suggest zsh. It is much smaller than bash but has 99% of the features. > It is has also readline editing, completion, history, etc. for interactive use. > In my opinion ash lacks many useful features, for example variable expansion. > My debian installer was writ

Russian PDF ?

2000-09-15 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Here are some excerpts from my attempt to build the Russian PDF: Language: russianb 1999/04/05 v1.1j Russian support from the babel system Package babel Warning: No hyphenation patterns were loaded for (babel)the language `Russian' (babel)I will use the

potato from cd

2000-09-15 Thread Daniela Kaminski
Hubert Schäferhoff 15.9.00 An den Eichen 35 48157 Münster e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear people, I tried to install the debian gnu linux 2.2 "potato" on an old pentium mashine. I started with the rescue and the root floppy disk and the base sytem was installed from the cd-rom drive. After reboo

potato-installation

2000-09-15 Thread Daniela Kaminski
Hubert Schäferhoff 15.9.00 An den Eichen 35 48157 Münster e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear people, I tried to install the debian gnu linux 2.2 "potato" on an old pentium mashine. I started with the rescue and the root floppy disk and the base sytem was installed from the cd-rom drive. After reboo

Re: debinst: target media preperation

2000-09-15 Thread Akira YOSHIYAMA
Hi, On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 21:32:04 +1100 Glenn McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There will have to be different levels of modules for target media > preperation, here are some possible modules, im not suggesting we need > them all, just exporing options > > Some functionality provided by thes

Re: redesigning the debian installer

2000-09-15 Thread Erik Andersen
On Thu Sep 14, 2000 at 11:31:25PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Michael S. Fischer wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 10:57:41PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > > > > > Perl is out, far too big. C is fine. Shell is ok if you limit yourself to > > > pure posix shell and are very careful about extra shell co

Re: redesigning the debian installer

2000-09-15 Thread Massimo Dal Zotto
> Michael S. Fischer wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 10:57:41PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > > > > > Perl is out, far too big. C is fine. Shell is ok if you limit yourself to > > > pure posix shell and are very careful about extra shell commands you use, > > > since each such command adds more si

Re: debinst: target media preperation

2000-09-15 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 09:32:04PM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote: > There will have to be different levels of modules for target media > preperation, here are some possible modules, im not suggesting we need > them all, just exporing options Yep, I think it would be good to have a very simple module

Comments, another installer project

2000-09-15 Thread Torsten Landschoff
Hi everybody, As I already mentioned to some people (but not on this list) I have the duty to write a Debian installer here at innominate AG in Berlin (Germany). Therefore I am following the discussion of the new Debian installer and I had the hope that I could just use it :) Of course I don't

Re: debinst: target media preperation

2000-09-15 Thread Bernhard R. Link
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Glenn McGrath wrote: > 2) Partition preperation > Functionality > > There is no one tool that can do the job here, modules could be based > on debians libfdisk, parted, other fdisk style programs, individual > tools will likely be required to deal with any md or

Re: bad press at www.linuxworld.com

2000-09-15 Thread Van Buggenhaut
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 07:59:17PM -0300, Carlos Barros wrote: > On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 11:26:58AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > > > > On 14-Sep-00, 02:58 (CDT), Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > If you ignore all of his nasty mudslinging, his gripes are the > > > following

Re: redesigning the debian installer

2000-09-15 Thread Bernhard R. Link
> IMHO would be more easier for this specific case to just install the > desired configuration,then have a small program(set of shellscripts, > whatever) that will [...] > 5.reboot > > Does this seems viable and easy to implement or it's just > "overcomplicated" ? Half of discussion here is

Re: redesigning the debian installer

2000-09-15 Thread Bernhard R. Link
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Joey Hess wrote: > So it makes a submenu of those virtual packages. Just like with the main > menu I described above, their menutest scripts are run to see if they > should be the default item in the menu. Their menutest scripts probably call > the hardware detection code, an

Re: bad press at www.linuxworld.com

2000-09-15 Thread Miros/law `Jubal' Baran
15.09.2000 pisze Lauri Tischler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Yeap, I have never understood why the initial bootdisk is called > 'rescue' The floppy you make at the end of installation should be > called 'rescue' not the 'bootfloppy' Maybe you've never had to use this bootdisk for rescue reasons. Try t

debinst: target media preperation

2000-09-15 Thread Glenn McGrath
There will have to be different levels of modules for target media preperation, here are some possible modules, im not suggesting we need them all, just exporing options Some functionality provided by these modules could be also used in acquisition of packages from a local filesystem 1) Hardwar

Re: Boot Problem

2000-09-15 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Adam" == Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Adam> Sorry we haven't been able to help you here. Adam> The only time I've heard of another reporting this problem, it was bad Adam> memory in the machine. You might try a memory scrubber. Adam> This is a hardware/kerne

Re: bad press at www.linuxworld.com

2000-09-15 Thread Lauri Tischler
Joey Hess wrote: > > If you ignore all of his nasty mudslinging, his gripes are the > following: > > The boot-floppies: > - Identify themselves as the debian rescue floppy which is certianly > confusing if you don't read documentation. Yeap, I have never understood why the initial bootdisk is