Re: Problems when using brltty in the terminal

2021-05-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le sam. 08 mai 2021 16:50:56 +0200, a ecrit: > Why is this a problem? Ora has in > non-terminal windows a priority and will outrule BRLTTY on the at-spi bus. Not on the at-spi bus, but on the brlapi server. Here his problem is with speech, for which there is no notion of overrid

Fwd: Problems when using brltty in the terminal

2021-05-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
- Forwarded message from Samuel Thibault - From: Samuel Thibault To: Christian Schoepplein , brl...@brltty.app Subject: Re: Problems when using brltty in the terminal Cc: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org Hello, Adding brl...@brltty.app since it's really not just a Debian

Re: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 1 release

2021-05-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, le sam. 08 mai 2021 15:03:54 +0200, a ecrit: > Hi Samuel, > > On Sat, May 08, 2021 at 11:40:49AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > >Christian Schoepplein, le ven. 07 mai 2021 22:20:32 +0200, a ecrit: > >> > Am 23.04.2021 um 10:50 schrieb Samuel Th

Re: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 1 release

2021-05-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 11 mai 2021 18:12:50 +0200, a ecrit: > the file /var/lib/alsa/asound.state is not present directly after the > installatio :-( : Is it really the rc1 image that you are testing? Which URL did you use to download it? (details always matter) Samuel

Re: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 1 release

2021-05-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 11 mai 2021 18:12:50 +0200, a ecrit: > the file /var/lib/alsa/asound.state is not present directly after the > installation :-( At least that explains why the fix is not getting effect in your case. We now need to determine why the fix is not triggering. There is a

Re: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 1 release

2021-05-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, le mer. 12 mai 2021 10:28:50 +0200, a ecrit: > On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 06:41:15PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > >Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 11 mai 2021 18:12:50 +0200, a ecrit: > >> the file /var/lib/alsa/asound.state is not present

Re: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 1 release

2021-05-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, le mer. 12 mai 2021 12:03:59 +0200, a ecrit: > Am 12.05.2021 um 10:36 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > > > > Mmm, were you actually using speech synthesis during the installer? We > > copy over the audio parameters only if speech was used. > > I

Re: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 1 release

2021-05-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jude DaShiell, le mer. 12 mai 2021 11:18:59 -0400, a ecrit: > The firmware version had no accessibility after install That's not expected. Which URL did you use exactly? > When this thread came up, I got curious so decided to check this out. Thanks! The more testing we have, the least bugs ther

Re: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 1 release

2021-05-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jude DaShiell, le mer. 12 mai 2021 14:25:22 -0400, a ecrit: > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/10.9.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/firmware-10.9.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso That is buster, not bullseye rc1, so it does not contain the fix mentioned in the thread. Please t

Re: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 1 release

2021-05-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jude DaShiell, le mer. 12 mai 2021 18:35:07 -0400, a ecrit: > Okay, Now I got the correct iso installed everything works and speech > comes on with an entirely acceptable volume level. Ok sot the fix works for you, thanks for confirming! Samuel

Re: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 1 release

2021-05-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le mer. 12 mai 2021 17:45:37 -0500, a ecrit: > if I selected gnome does speech also get enabled Yes, but by default gnome uses wayland, in which Orca doesn't really work. > and what if you select both gnome and mate? Both would get installed. I don't know which would would get st

Re: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 1 release

2021-05-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, le mer. 12 mai 2021 13:17:31 +0200, a ecrit: > Am 12.05.2021 um 12:10 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > > Sure, the file is just recording the level that you are getting by > > default from the sound card driver. > > OK. but why did I not have this volume pro

Bug#988433: alsa-utils initialization script not effective any more since move to systemd

2021-05-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: alsa-utils Version: 1.2.4-1 Severity: important Tags: a11y Hello, Since the move to systemd, the alsa-utils init script is not getting started at all any more. This broke setting the initial volumes of sound cards to hearable values, which was essential for speech accessibility of a Debi

Re: Bug#987587: libpango1.0-udeb: hangs the installer in various situations

2021-05-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le lun. 17 mai 2021 18:12:35 +0200, a ecrit: > Additionally, even with all 3 cdebconf-gtk-* packages converted, we > still get libgtk2.0-0-udeb pulled into a netboot-gtk build, because this > package pulls it: > > build/pkg-lists/gtk-common:libgail18-udeb > > Adding debian-ac

Re: Validez votre adresse e-mail: [debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org]

2021-05-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
This is just spam, of course, don't do anything about this Samuel Webmail ServerHost, le sam. 29 mai 2021 09:07:31 -0700, a ecrit: > Attention: Re: E-mail de mise à jour pour > debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org > > Veuillez noter que nous validons tous les comptes de messagerie actifs pour

Re: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 3 release

2021-08-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Cyril Brulebois, le lun. 02 août 2021 11:59:51 +0200, a ecrit: > The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the third > release candidate of the installer for Debian 11 "Bullseye". Now is the last opportunity to make some tests before the release which is planned to happen around

Re: Latest Debian Stable 32 bit with non free firmware

2021-08-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, D.J.J. Ring, wrote: > Doesn't speak when booted! > > Latest Debian Stable 32 bit with non free firmware after installation does not > speak. It just does speak for me. Just to make sure: where did you get your image from? I used http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-in

Re: Latest Debian Stable 32 bit with non free firmware

2021-08-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, wrote: > The image came from [1]https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/ > images-including-firmware/current/i386/iso-cd/firmware-10.10.0-i386-netinst.iso > > I had problems with the release candidates before and thought the final > release > would be better. 10.10 is

Re: Latest Debian Stable 32 bit with non free firmware

2021-08-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jim Green, le ven. 06 août 2021 11:14:16 -0400, a ecrit: > It came up asking for user name and password. Ok, so you did get at least some speech so there is no sound driver/firmware issue here. > I guess it took it, but I was lost there. Never > used a GUI before. Ok, that might be why. The "st

Re: editing files using VIM on remote server

2021-08-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, adilhusain shaikh wrote: > The issue is when I press down arrow the cursor goes to next line,. But the > screen reader still reads out the last line. That's a common issue with vim. Run :set noruler and that "last-line output" will disappear. You can put set noruler in your .vimrc

Re: Debian 11 unofficial firmware first installation

2021-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Giving a general answer first. First, only reported issues can be fixed. Then, when an issue is reported very late in the release process it's really difficult to fix it, or stop the release because of it. We cannot halt the world just because on some hardware there are driver issues. It

Re: Debian 11 unofficial firmware first installation

2021-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Pawel L.wrote: > The Speakup volume is extremely low during the installation process. Did you take a look at the documentation for accessibility support in the installer? https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch05s02.en.html#idm1260 It notably says “The default volume should be m

Re: Debian 11 formally debuts and hits the Bullseye • The Register

2021-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le dim. 15 août 2021 22:07:03 -0400, a ecrit: > A good improvement would be to configure the screen using the large > VGA fonts by selection in the installer. There is already an "Accessible dark contrast installer menu" boot option, that provides larger fonts. Also, in the graph

d-i & sound boards that need firmwares: errata?

2021-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, As reported by a few users, some sound boards nowadays need firmwares to be able to emit sound. So it's the same situation as the amdgpu etc. video cards. Except that the BIOS doesn't provide a fallback interface that espeakup would be able to use, so we need to load the firmware before esp

Re: Logs from Failed Bullseye RC3 Netinstall CD Accessible installation

2021-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jude DaShiell, le dim. 15 août 2021 12:01:44 -0400, a ecrit: > The first thing that needs to be done for the wi-fi users is to make an > experimental installer and keep it in-house. Find out if ifup or other > utilities can bring up wi-fi after first boot. wi-fi questions should really be brought

Re: Logs from Failed Bullseye RC3 Netinstall CD Accessible installation

2021-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le dim. 15 août 2021 07:03:51 -0400, a ecrit: > I have the log files of unsuccessful installation of my Bullseye AMD64 RC > Netinstall CD here: > > [1]http://qsl.net/n1ea/bullseyerc3netinstall.tar.gz This is telling me 404. > Thanks to Jude for replying to my previous posts, ot

Re: Report on Latest Testing (Bullseys) Weekly Build

2021-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le dim. 15 août 2021 15:54:50 -0400, a ecrit: > My sys log for this is here: [1]https://qsl.net/n1ea/ > debianweeklybullseysnonfree20210809syslog While interesting, this is not what the wiki asks for information. https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility#Debian_installer_accessibilit

Re: Debian 11 unofficial firmware first installation

2021-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jeffery Mewtamer, le mer. 18 août 2021 18:59:32 +, a ecrit: > Kind of want to try out the new release to find out if I encounter > similar problems, but I don't want to risk my main system, One thing you can try is to just boot the installer, to check that you get speech in the languag

Re: d-i & sound boards that need firmwares: errata?

2021-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le mer. 18 août 2021 21:25:08 +0200, a ecrit: > Yes, that's all there's to do to get the errata updated. Ok, thanks! Done so. > Of course, it might take a few hours until that's noticed by the cron > job Sure! As well as translations etc. Samuel

Re: Logs from Failed Bullseye RC3 Netinstall CD Accessible installation

2021-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le mer. 18 août 2021 15:50:14 -0400, a ecrit: > They all have the same problems, sound card is detected but cannot be > selected and used during installation, Normally they can. And in my tests they are. Did you try the capslock-1 / capslock-2 shortcuts? > But it worked! Again

Re: Debian 11 unofficial firmware first installation

2021-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., wrote: > What I was talking about is that Debian refuses to change it's policy > of non-free, Ok. That indeed happens to be non-negociable. That goes back to the #1 item of the social contract of Debian: “Debian will remain 100% free”. But also there you can find “Works that do n

Re: Debian 11 unofficial firmware first installation

2021-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jeffery Mewtamer, le mer. 18 août 2021 23:21:43 +, a ecrit: > heck, I'm almost willing to bet real money the two versions are > compiled and uploaded by the same people Very most probably, yes :) Samuel

Re: large VGA font in speech-based installer.

2021-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > doing so would help users with minimal but some vision to > have the screen to reinforce what they hear with the screen reader. That makes sense indeed. One thing is: there is no such thing as "the largest font available", we can always draw larger fonts, up to displayin

Re: Debian 11 unofficial firmware first installation

2021-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Pawel wrote: > I don't know what made you think that I did not try alt+F1 before > writing to the list. Because you didn't say that you tried, and we have already seen reports that were solved simply by the knowledge that alt-f1 is what you need to use. Pawel wrote: > Whatever I tried brought me

Re: large VGA font in speech-based installer.

2021-08-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le mer. 18 août 2021 23:05:04 -0400, a ecrit: > It probably was terminus 10x20 > I do wish there was a bit larger font. Terminus has 22x11, 24x12, 28x14, 32x16 variants. But the actual result completely depends on the actual resolution that your framebuffer is getting. Samuel

Re: debian version of orca

2021-08-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jude DaShiell, le mer. 30 juin 2021 05:49:54 -0400, a ecrit: > When I poweroff the computer here, I hear two different orca shutting down > messages. Is this something that should come with the territory? It seems that lightdm is not shutting down its own orca indeed. That probably deserv

Re: Solution for Those Who Cannot Log Into MATE in Bullseys

2021-08-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, wrote: > Eventually the Stable repositories will contain the fixes that are in > the Testing repositories and everything will be OK. Well, for that to happen, possibly discussion needs to happen with MATE people. Possibly they are not aware of the particular problem that you have, and

Re: firmware-11.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso Install

2021-08-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I can only repeat myself. I am not getting theses issues in my tests, so we need information from your machine to determine what is going wrongly in your case. For the MATE problem, please bring it up to MATE maintainers who will know what to inspect, we in debian-accessibility don't have

Bug#992699: debian-installer: Firmwares required for some sound cards

2021-08-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: debian-installer Version: 20210731 Severity: normal Tags: a11y d-i Hello, As mentioned in the Bullseye errata, there seems to be a number of sound cards that require loading a firmware to be able to emit sound (e.g. Intel SOF). Unfortunately currently the installer loads firmware after l

Re: firmware-11.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso Install

2021-08-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring wrote: > This joy didn't last long because of problems with Xauthority files, they were > causing problems.  Didier helped me with this, he said that logging in as root > and running X can cause file ownership problems. Mmm, but that's not supposed to happen, it's a bug worth trying to

Re: Debian 11 - high contrast theme bug

2021-08-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Kenneth Schack Banner, le sam. 21 août 2021 09:17:08 +0200, a ecrit: > I just install Debian 11 using the netinstaller (unofficial). I changed the > theme from high contract, invert to high contrast. When i enable negative > colors (super + n/m) the top menu is not affected. Indeed, that's

Re: firmware-11.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso Install

2021-08-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > I also attach a file with the answers to your request. Ok, thanks. Is this on a system that works, or within the installer that doesn't work? We need both, to be able to compare and see where things get wrong. Samuel

Re: firmware-11.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso Install

2021-08-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
I already know all of this, it's all in the archives of the mailing list. What I'm asking you is to run the same set of commands, inside the installer, on the second console for instance. You can for instance write the output on a mounted keystick. Samuel

Re: d-i & sound boards that need firmwares: errata?

2021-08-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Holger Wansing, le mer. 18 août 2021 21:34:24 +0200, a ecrit: > Am 18. August 2021 21:17:57 MESZ schrieb Samuel Thibault > : > > > >I'm thinking that we should add the problem to the errata list, > >so that people know about the issue? I have commit access to &

Re: Debian 11 - high contrast theme bug

2021-08-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le dim. 22 août 2021 21:49:28 +0200, a ecrit: > Kenneth Schack Banner, le sam. 21 août 2021 09:17:08 +0200, a ecrit: > > I just install Debian 11 using the netinstaller (unofficial). I changed the > > theme from high contract, invert to high contrast. When i

Re: Commands Inside the Installer

2021-08-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, wrote: > amixer -c 0 scontrols > Invalid card number Oh. That was not really expected. It doesn't seem to be producing an issue in the script, but let's invest a bit there. Could you try this image: https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/mini.iso which includes the i915 driver, to

Re: Commands Inside the Installer

2021-08-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, wrote: > but no sound, Ok :/ > Also since it doesn't have firmware for ilwi or whatever the module I > need for the WiFi I have in this computer, I wasn't going to install > the mini.iso. Ok, but can't you run amixer -c 0 scontrols and see whether it is still emitting the "invalid

Re: Commands Inside the Installer

2021-08-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le lun. 23 août 2021 14:56:41 -0400, a ecrit: > [   498.089] (**) Speakup: Applying InputClass "libinput keyboard catchall" This is the virtual keyboard that speakup uses to fake keypresses. Samuel

Re: debian bullseye on chrome os with crouton

2021-08-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, mattias, le mar. 24 août 2021 12:38:11 +0200, a ecrit: > speech dispatcher will not run > it looks for the socket but fails to find it. I guess the crouton developers need to be aware of this bug to be able to fix it. Samuel

Orca 41 beta ready for testing

2021-08-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I have uploaded orca 41 beta to the experimental Debian distribution, it will be available on mirrors shortly in a few hours, ready for testing One notable change compared to alpha is the addition of the new key snooping mechanism, which will allow to have key echo and orca shortcuts in gt

Re: debian bullseye on chrome os with crouton

2021-08-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
mattias jonsson, le mar. 24 août 2021 21:33:44 +0200, a ecrit: > but how can debian stretch works fine and not the newer? In stretch the XDG_RUNTIME_DIR variable was not set, and thus the speech-dispatcher socket would end up in the user's home, and I guess that happens to be working by luck with

Re: debian bullseye on chrome os with crouton

2021-08-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le mar. 24 août 2021 23:15:27 +0200, a ecrit: > For this reason I ended up setting these defaults for Slint in > /etc/skel/.profile > > export XDG_CACHE_HOME=/dev/shm/$(whoami) > mkdir -p /dev/shm/$(whoami) > chmod 700 /dev/shm/$(whoami) > export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=$XDG_CACHE_HOME > >

Re: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 3 release

2021-08-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Kenneth Schack Banner wrote: > The torrent mirror seems to have a bug, i was not able to download the > unofficial release using a bittorrent clinet, but i was able to download it > with http/ftp This is completely out of our area :) I don't know who would be best to contact, but probably

Re: java-atk-wrapper: which files ar used in /run/user/1000/*

2021-08-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I could reproduce your issue. Halim Sahin, le lun. 14 juin 2021 11:08:08 +0200, a ecrit: > when a running desktop crashs or a user does > sudo systemctl lightdm restart > > a11y including orca etc works as expected. > Only java apps which use atk-wrapper is completely inaccessible. > > T

Re: java-atk-wrapper: which files ar used in /run/user/1000/*

2021-08-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le jeu. 26 août 2021 01:09:46 +0200, a ecrit: > - Bad dbus cleanup on lightdm restart or session crash. That is a bit > surprising, I though all the systemd etc. stuff was precisely meant to > keep that kind of thing sane... I have submitted https://bugs.debian.o

Any users of non-UTF8 locales here?

2021-08-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Non-UTF8 locales are getting retired from Debian. Are there people here who are still using such locale? You can determine that by running locale charmap If it says UTF-8, you're safe. If it says something else, you need a migration plan :) Samuel

Re: Any users of non-UTF8 locales here?

2021-08-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le ven. 27 août 2021 00:20:53 +0200, a ecrit: > [OT]: if I unset LANG, "locale charmap" gives: > ANSI_X3.4-1968 > which is roughly another name for US-ASCII. > > Doing that can lead to issues and support requests, e.g.: > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2021-08/msg0011

Re: Any users of non-UTF8 locales here?

2021-08-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le ven. 27 août 2021 00:32:11 +0200, a ecrit: > > Err, yes, but what is your point? > > How to make sure users have always LANG set? There is almost no language beyond english that can work with only ASCII. > I don't know if/how Debian sets LANG by default It just uses the lang/c

Re: Any users of non-UTF8 locales here?

2021-08-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Rick Thomas, le ven. 27 août 2021 04:04:54 -0700, a ecrit: > rbthomas@monk:~$ env | grep LANG > LANG=C Ok, that one does not need a plan, it will definitely stay there :) Samuel

Re: speech-dispatcher config file?

2021-08-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
mattias jonsson, le ven. 27 août 2021 17:40:41 +0200, a ecrit: > i try to change speech-dispatcher to not using socket in my crouton chroot > but where is the config file? > i found the /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf > but seems it are not the correct one.. That should be it, unless you have

Re: method for booting the talking network installation with non-free firmware from the hard drive using grub

2021-08-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Nick Gawronski wrote: > one of my other partitions on my hard drive contain the Debian network > installation with the non-free firmware then setup grub for a text > target Yes, that's possible. The simplest way is to dd the iso image to the partition, and then in the grub boot section wri

Re: method for booting the talking network installation with non-free firmware from the hard drive using grub

2021-08-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski: > There is no way to extract the GTK initial ramdisk image gzip file from > the iso file You can do that as well, yes. > or just place the iso file in /home That part would make it much harder for the installer to find the iso image. Putting it onto a partition is really much si

Re: method for booting the talking network installation with non-free firmware from the hard drive using grub

2021-08-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le lun. 30 août 2021 07:22:01 -0500, a ecrit: > What would I need to do after I made a copy of the initial ramdisk image > gzip file and the kernel to /boot to run the talking version of the > debian-installer Simply a grub entry that runs linux /the/kernel speakup.synth=soft init

Re: speech-dispatcher config file?

2021-08-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
mattias jonsson, le lun. 30 août 2021 08:56:18 +0200, a ecrit: > i try to configure speech-dispatcher to use inet socket and not unix socket > but wich things i need to coment out? Uncomment # CommunicationMethod "unix_socket" and turn that into inet_socket Samuel

Re: method for booting the talking network installation with non-free firmware from the hard drive using grub

2021-08-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le lun. 30 août 2021 16:27:29 -0500, a ecrit: > The issue is that all of my network cards require non-free firmware > to load is there a version of the GTK network boot files that contain > this firmware? Ah, no, the firmwares are not inside the initrd. But you can cat the initrd.g

Re: method for booting the talking network installation with non-free firmware from the hard drive using grub

2021-08-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, le lun. 30 août 2021 20:43:41 -0500, a ecrit: > Hi, Should I first uncompress both files or just cat them both together and > what one should I put first? Just cat the two .gz files, the order doesn't matter. > as lots of newer systems do not have CD or DVD or BD drives Err, yes

Re: java-atk-wrapper: which files ar used in /run/user/1000/*

2021-08-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello Halim, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Samuel Thibault, le jeu. 26 août 2021 01:09:46 +0200, a ecrit: > > - jaw still relying on the AT_SPI_BUS X property (but possibly some > > other toolkits do that as well, but on wayland it'll have to go > > through a session bus

Re: java-atk-wrapper: which files ar used in /run/user/1000/*

2021-09-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Halim Sahin, le mer. 01 sept. 2021 17:14:50 +0200, a ecrit: > Am 31.08.21 um 10:30 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > > Hello Halim, > > > > Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Samuel Thibault, le jeu. 26 août 2021 01:09:46 +0200, a ecrit: > > > > - jaw still relying

Re: java-atk-wrapper: which files ar used in /run/user/1000/*

2021-09-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le mer. 01 sept. 2021 17:45:54 +0200, a ecrit: > I can as well build the package for bullseye and buster, and you'll be > able to try them easily. I have uploaded a package for bullseye with the fix on deb https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/bullseye-tmp ./ (r

Re: java-atk-wrapper: which files ar used in /run/user/1000/*

2021-09-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le mer. 01 sept. 2021 23:51:31 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault, le mer. 01 sept. 2021 17:45:54 +0200, a ecrit: > > I can as well build the package for bullseye and buster, and you'll be > > able to try them easily. > > I have uploaded a package fo

Re: firmware-11.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso Install

2021-09-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, This really is a question for debian-boot, not debian-accessibility. Nick Gawronski, le jeu. 09 sept. 2021 05:18:12 -0500, a ecrit: > Using the DVD 1 with the non-free firmware gives me the message that the > following firmware is not found iwlwifi-6000g2b-6.ucode and > iwlwifi-6000g2b-5.u

Re: QUICK QUESTION REGARDING A BRAND NEW INSTALLATION OF DEBIAN 11 FROM A COMPLETE NUBE

2021-09-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Reyaan Ebrahim wrote: > Please help - I've just installed Debian 11. > after the installation was complete, it kept saying "this is the dummy output > module. > > What did I do wrong? We'd need more details on what you did. What non-default options did you choose during installation? Id

Re: Testing, pipewire and speech-dispatcher

2021-09-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Raphaël POITEVIN, le mer. 29 sept. 2021 14:54:17 +0200, a ecrit: > I was in testing (Bullseye). I'd like to continue to follow than branch > but I see pipewire in the update list. Ah it gets pulled automatically? > Is it a risk for speech-dispatcher? I didn't notice any issue, but I guess speech

Re: gaining access to the expert install options with speech possible?

2021-10-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, majid hussain, le ven. 01 oct. 2021 16:27:01 +0100, a ecrit: > is it possible to access the expert mode of the installer process? Yes, see the https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility#Debian_installer_accessibility wiki page: «  Starting from Debian Stretch (Debian 9), expert installation, r

Re: gaining access to the expert install options with speech possible?

2021-10-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
majid hussain wrote: > then press e for expert mode No, as the text says for expert mode it's 'x'. Also, note that this is all with a qwerty layout. Samuel

Re: gaining access to the expert install options with speech possible?

2021-10-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, majid hussain, le dim. 03 oct. 2021 13:58:07 +0100, a ecrit: > when i entered expert mode, I was not given an option to pick which > version of debian I wanted to install? I remember some choice like this in the past, but I don't find it any more. > stable, unstable etc? The sets of pack

Re: Loss of all sound after updating to latest stable

2021-10-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Odd Martin Baanrud, le dim. 10 oct. 2021 14:50:25 +0200, a ecrit: > After updating to the latest Debian Stable, I’ve no sound at all. > Either the sound card nor the pc speaker. > Is there something I can look for in a log? Essentially the same as for the debian installer case: cat /proc/

Re: Loss of all sound after updating to latest stable

2021-10-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Odd Martin Baanrud, le dim. 10 oct. 2021 21:31:13 +0200, a ecrit: > [6.051571] iwlwifi :03:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware > iwlwifi-5000-5.ucode > [6.051824] iwlwifi :03:00.0: loaded firmware version 8.83.5.1 build > 33692 5000-5.ucode op_mode iwldvm > [6.051863] iwlw

Re: espeakup alsa not flushing buffer as of sid 20210905

2021-10-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Frank Carmickle, le lun. 06 sept. 2021 10:59:24 -0400, a ecrit: > After a few minutes of the system running the buffer no longer flushes > quickly and so speech talks over itself. Just to make sure: you are not running pulseaudio at all, right? Perhaps ALSA is performing some buffer size

Re: rhvoice ACCEPTED into unstable

2021-10-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, For information, the RHVoice speech synthesis has been accepted into unstable. One can install the speech-dispatcher-rhvoice package and restart to see it appear in the available list of voices. One also has to install some of the available language packages: > rhvoice-brazilian-portugues

Re: Mate Theme HighContrastInverse in Bullseye

2021-10-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Florian Wille, le mar. 19 oct. 2021 22:50:46 +0200, a ecrit: > In Mate 1.24.x in Bullseye this Theme has a dark-grey background in most > apps, which eliminates the contrast. > > I do not know where to bug this or better how to fix this. > Could someone give me a hint how to get this if po

Re: debian arm64 installer

2021-10-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
mattias jonsson, le dim. 24 oct. 2021 13:21:24 +0200, a ecrit: > seems debian arm64 installer dont have brltty? They do. Samuel

Re: debian arm64 installer

2021-10-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Vojtech šmiro, le dim. 24 oct. 2021 17:35:51 +0200, a ecrit: > and is Debian Arm for Raspberry too? I don't know how they build their image. If they don't depart from the Debian images they should be including it, yes. Samuel

Re: dbus-broker vs dbus-daemon for the accessibility bus

2021-10-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Michael Bibl is pushing for using dbus-broker :) Apparently people have been happy with it, so I have enabled it in at-spi2-core version 2.42.0-2. If you want to test it, upgrade the at-spi2-core to that version, install the dbus-broker package, and reboot. It should be bringing better per

Re: dbus-broker vs dbus-daemon for the accessibility bus

2021-10-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sam Hartman, le sam. 30 oct. 2021 16:20:16 -0600, a ecrit: > >>>>> "Samuel" == Samuel Thibault writes: > > Samuel> Hello, Michael Bibl is pushing for using dbus-broker :) > > Samuel> Apparently people have been happy with it, so I have en

Re: dbus-broker vs dbus-daemon for the accessibility bus

2021-10-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Vojtech šmiro, le dim. 31 oct. 2021 09:04:43 +0100, a ecrit: > is some way to install this on ubuntu? Not directly probably, you'd have to recompile the package against Ubuntu. Samuel > Dne 31. 10. 21 v 0:15 Samuel Thibault napsal(a): > > Hello, > > > > Michael B

Re: debian arm64

2021-11-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, mattias jonsson, le lun. 01 nov. 2021 09:46:25 +0100, a ecrit: > seems braille in debian installer for arm64 dont work.. In my tests it does. > tryed on utm for mac > the x64 installer works but not arm64 We need *much* more details to get the slightest idea why it would fail: - which k

Re: debian arm64

2021-11-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
mattias jonsson, le lun. 01 nov. 2021 19:30:20 +0100, a ecrit: > a hims smart beetle connected via usb Then we need - the output of cat /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/modalias - whether ps | grep brltty shows brltty as running - the content of /var/log/syslog Samuel

Re: debian arm64

2021-11-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
mattias jonsson, le lun. 01 nov. 2021 20:58:07 +0100, a ecrit: > Seems you cant open a terminal in the installer... You can. Either you have a full-fledged console and alt-fn will work. Or you are inside a screen, and ctrl-a space will switch between consoles. Samuel

Re: debian arm64

2021-11-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
mattias jonsson, le mer. 03 nov. 2021 17:18:16 +0100, a ecrit: > debian 11 arm64 netinstall dont have brltty They do. $ wget http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/11.1.0/arm64/iso-cd/debian-11.1.0-arm64-netinst.iso $ sudo mount debian-11.1.0-arm64-netinst.iso /mnt/mnt $ gzip -d < /mnt/mnt/in

Re: Skipping disk erase on Debian text-based installation (fwd)

2021-11-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Edhoari Setiyoso, le mer. 03 nov. 2021 07:24:28 +0700, a ecrit: > I should've mention that this procedure happened when we want to do full disk > encryption with LVM. Indeed that can be a real pain. I don't know a way to interrupt it with the text interface. I have submitted the feature re

Bug#998424: cdebconf-text-udeb: Making steps interruptible

2021-11-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: cdebconf Version: 0.192 Severity: normal Tags: d-i a11y -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 18:51:47 From: Linux for blind general discussion To: blinux-l...@redhat.com Subject: Skipping disk erase on Debian text-based installation Hi all, I wonder if we can

Re: Sound Card selection at boot

2021-11-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Keith Barrett, le jeu. 04 nov. 2021 10:37:14 +, a ecrit: > Since updating bullseye to bookworm, the same sound card is not being used > at boot time. > > There are two sound cards in this machine and before the update, one card > was always used when the system started so speech was reliable.

Re: Loss of all sound after updating to latest stable

2021-11-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Odd Martin Baanrud, le dim. 17 oct. 2021 01:37:10 +0200, a ecrit: > Did you get anything usefull out of the amixer output I posted regarding the > loss of sound? Unfortunately no. There is just one thing that could possibly be problematic: the master level is at 73%. That's not 0%, but t

Re: Skipping disk erase on Debian text-based installation (fwd)

2021-11-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Samuel Thibault, le jeu. 04 nov. 2021 01:18:16 +0100, a ecrit: > Edhoari Setiyoso, le mer. 03 nov. 2021 07:24:28 +0700, a ecrit: > > I should've mention that this procedure happened when we want to do full > > disk > > encryption with LVM. > > Indeed that

Re: Skipping disk erase on Debian text-based installation (fwd)

2021-11-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jordan Livesey, le mer. 17 nov. 2021 18:38:35 +, a ecrit: > as far as I know during installation even if you manually partitioned your > disk > its still gonna format it so that debian can be installed Formatting is mandatory for the root filesystem indeed. Edhoari Setiyoso, le mer.

Re: Skipping disk erase on Debian text-based installation (fwd)

2021-11-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le mer. 17 nov. 2021 21:58:00 +0100, a ecrit: > Unless I'm missing something, one could preseed this question as kernel > boot parameter: > > # When disk encryption is enabled, skip wiping the partitions beforehand. > #d-i partman-auto-crypto/erase_disks boolean false Yes, but that's wa

Re: Bootable linux cd iso image with ssh daemon activated

2021-12-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le jeu. 09 déc. 2021 08:45:41 +0100, a ecrit: > The last time I checked, the Debian Installer was using the ncurses > interface for the SSH server which was unaccessible. ? It uses whatever interface was selected. If you boot with speech enabled, it will use a pure-text interface. If you

Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader

2021-12-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Michael A Ray, le dim. 12 déc. 2021 15:21:47 +, a ecrit: > One of the worst things abut Orca is the dependence on speech-dispatcher. Why so? Better fix things than throwing them away. > 1. Somebody needs to fix the bug in the sd_espeak module of > speech-dispatcher so that it does not unload

Re: debian multimedia now works

2021-12-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le sam. 25 déc. 2021 15:47:01 -0500, a ecrit: > The default settings install "Debian Desktop Environment" which is > MATE. I don't know of a way to just install a text only Debian > system, which would be wonderful to do. As documented, you can type a single question mark, to te

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