Re: When installing Debian Buster with eSpeakup enabled default installed desktop is Gnome, Is this intentional?

2019-04-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Lukasz Golonka, le sam. 20 avril 2019 16:11:23 +0200, a ecrit: > Today I've installed Buster RC1 using iso downloaded from > https://caesar.ftp.acc.umu.se/cdimage/buster_di_rc1/amd64/iso-cd/debian-buster-DI-rc1-amd64-netinst.iso > and Gnome was installed as a default DI. What did you ans

Debian Buster installer and speech issues

2019-04-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I have heard that some people have issues with getting their sound card working in the Buster Debian installer. After trying more, I have noticed that some sound drivers take a huge time (12s!) to get to initialize. I have thus extended the waiting to fix this. Could people who were havi

Re: Debian Buster installer and speech issues

2019-04-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jude DaShiell, le mar. 23 avril 2019 15:33:39 -0400, a ecrit: > On completion the usb speakers clicked > but no speech or sound ever came out of them for both cases. You mean that at reboot you didn't have sound? What does /etc/default/espeakup contain? Also, just like for the case of spea

Re: Debian Buster installer and speech issues

2019-04-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le mar. 23 avril 2019 23:40:20 +0200, a ecrit: > I couldn't manage to switch to a tty though although > I told quemu to grab the keys with Ctrl+Alt+G, > this switched to a tty of the host so I don't know ctrl-alt-f1-6 are taken by the kernel, Xorg can't do much about it. The only wa

Re: Debian Buster installer and speech issues

2019-04-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le mer. 24 avril 2019 12:20:08 +0200, a ecrit: > On 23/04/2019 23:40, Didier Spaier wrote: > > On bare metal, no luck: the installer could not detect > > my sound card, so no speech in the installer. > > > > It made 9 unsuccessful attempts, told it would tried > > other cards, seem

Re: Debian Buster installer and speech issues

2019-04-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Didier Spaier, le mer. 24 avril 2019 13:14:57 +0200, a ecrit: > On 24/04/2019 10:31, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Didier Spaier, le mar. 23 avril 2019 23:40:20 +0200, a ecrit: > >> I couldn't manage to switch to a tty though although > >> I told quemu

Re: Debian Buster installer and speech issues

2019-04-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le mer. 24 avril 2019 14:14:46 +0200, a ecrit: > On 24/04/2019 10:35, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Didier Spaier, le mer. 24 avril 2019 12:20:08 +0200, a ecrit: > >> On 23/04/2019 23:40, Didier Spaier wrote: > >>> On bare metal, no luck: the installer c

Re: Bug report: Buster: Debian Installer doesn't speak

2019-04-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Geoff Shang, le lun. 08 avril 2019 22:22:03 +0100, a ecrit: > On Sun, 7 Apr 2019, Geoff Shang wrote: > > ah. My bad. So I have not ruled out a muted soundcard. I wil have to > > look at that. > > I did. It turns out that ALSA says it was indeed muted, but unmuting it > didn't help. Per

Re: Minimal speech recognition -- discrete/command/control

2019-04-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Richard Owlett, le lun. 29 avril 2019 07:46:45 -0500, a ecrit: > I'm looking for speech recognition [speech to text] for command entry tasks. > My keywords are: > discrete speech > small vocabulary > speaker independent [not critical] > > IOW something on the other end of spectrum f

Re: the rc1 buster installer doesn't speech on hp pabilion 250g2 laptop.

2019-05-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Fran Torres, le lun. 06 mai 2019 21:03:57 +0200, a ecrit: > after download the rc1 of installer for buster, the installer speech > on another machines (VM machines for vmWare example) but, no gives > text to speech on hp 250g2 after accessibility mode enabled (pressing > s during boot). Co

Re: Re: the rc1 buster installer doesn't speech on hp pabilion 250g2 laptop.

2019-05-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Laura Arjona Reina, le ven. 17 mai 2019 11:35:32 +0200, a ecrit: > Fran told me that the mini.iso was working well (speech working) in the hp > pavilion 250g2 laptop. Ok, thanks for the confirmation! I'll upload the fix to Debian so it can be in time for the release. Samuel

Re: speakup/espeakup/debian installer

2019-05-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Please always keep the mailing list in Cc, so that I am not the only recipient of the mail. Writing to me only means risking falling in the middle of my vacations and thus not getting an answer for weeks, or that I just don't have the time to answer and thus you would at best get a terse an

Re: speakup/espeakup/debian installer

2019-05-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Terry D. Cudney, le dim. 19 mai 2019 19:38:17 -0400, a ecrit: > Any observations/workarounds/solutions out there? As Didier asked: which keys do you use to try to interrupt speech? Which kind of keyboard are you using, connected which way? samuel

Re: speakup/espeakup/debian installer

2019-05-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le lun. 20 mai 2019 08:20:26 +0200, a ecrit: > Terry D. Cudney, le dim. 19 mai 2019 19:38:17 -0400, a ecrit: > > Any observations/workarounds/solutions out there? > > As Didier asked: which keys do you use to try to interrupt speech? Ok, in another mail you a

Re: speakup/espeakup/debian installer

2019-05-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Terry D. Cudney, le lun. 20 mai 2019 13:47:08 -0400, a ecrit: > Samuel, can you ascertain what changed in the espeakup code about 1.5 to > 2 years ago, that could cause this? That's a long period of time, at best I could suggest the switch to espeak-ng, or to pulseaudio. Samuel

[RFC] Changing the default cursor on the Linux console?

2019-06-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I'm here looking for opinions from debian-accessibility from people with low vision. Samuel Thibault, le lun. 10 juin 2019 22:02:05 +0200, a ecrit: > > whenever i have to use the linux console, i have significant > > neurological issues, due to the blinking cursor. >

Bug#930638: ITP: gla11y -- Automatic check of accessibility of .ui files

2019-06-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault * Package name: gla11y Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Samuel Thibault * URL : https://github.com/hypra/gla11y * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : Automatic check of

Re: Sound card not detected by the incoming Debian installer for Debian 10

2019-06-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Didier Spaier, le mar. 25 juin 2019 00:42:32 +0200, a ecrit: > On 24/06/2019 21:54, Didier Spaier wrote: > > However I don't know if the difference comes from the script or on how > > /sys is populated or from any other reason. > > To check, I have built a Slint mini ISO replacing probe_s

Re: Sound card not detected by the incoming Debian installer for Debian 10

2019-06-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Didier Spaier, le mar. 25 juin 2019 16:58:26 +0200, a ecrit: > 2. As soon as tty2 becomes available type in it lsmod|sort>a > 3. Later in the startup process type lsmod|sort>b How much later is that? > Looks like at time of starting S38 espeakup, snd_hda_codec_conexant and > snd_hda_codec

Re: Sound card not detected by the incoming Debian installer for Debian 10

2019-06-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Btw, could you try previous buster images available from cdimage.debian.org/cdimage ? In order to determine when this issue got introduced. Samuel

Re: Sound card not detected by the incoming Debian installer for Debian 10

2019-06-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le mar. 25 juin 2019 19:46:57 +0200, a ecrit: > I am unable to find my way in http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ > How do I locate those "previous buster images"? I only find > recent ones. Please provide a few direct links if possible. buster_di_alpha* are the ones before the bust

Re: Sound card not detected by the incoming Debian installer for Debian 10

2019-06-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jude DaShiell, le mar. 25 juin 2019 17:46:02 -0400, a ecrit: > Shouldn't speakup install be delayed until after sound initialization > completes? With udev nowadays, there is not really such thing as "initialization completes" any more. Samuel

Re: Sound card not detected by the incoming Debian installer for Debian 10

2019-06-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le mar. 25 juin 2019 23:24:52 +0200, a ecrit: > > How much later is that? > > not a direct answer but this quote of dmesg from the Debian installer looks > weird: > > [4.096160] initialized device: /dev/softsynthu, node (MAJOR 10, MINOR 27) > [ 39.518901] random: crng init d

Re: Sound card not detected by the incoming Debian installer for Debian 10

2019-06-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le mer. 26 juin 2019 01:02:58 +0200, a ecrit: > On 6/25/19 11:47 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Didier Spaier, le mar. 25 juin 2019 19:46:57 +0200, a ecrit: > > > I am unable to find my way in http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ > > > How do I locate those

Re: Sound card not detected by the incoming Debian installer for Debian 10

2019-06-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le mer. 26 juin 2019 11:31:24 +0200, a ecrit: > debian-buster-DI-alpha4-amd64-netinst.iso works as expected: > espeakup is started and speech works. > > debian-buster-DI-alpha5-amd64-netinst.iso instead doesn't: espeakup is > running but no speech is heard. But is the audio card de

Re: Sound card not detected by the Debian installer

2019-07-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le mar. 02 juil. 2019 11:15:02 -0400, a ecrit: > I just tried the firmware - buster RC1 and RC2 and used the text install and > my > sound card was not detected. Could you try debian-buster-DI-alpha4-amd64-netinst.iso from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/buster_di_alp

Re: Sound card not detected by the Debian installer

2019-07-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le mar. 02 juil. 2019 16:32:03 -0400, a ecrit: > Wonderful debian-buster-DI-alpha4-amd64-netinst.iso works fine ad > Didier has reported! Ok, thanks for the test! Just to cross-check, could you check that alpha5 from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/buster_di_alpha5/amd64/iso

Re: Sound card not detected by the Debian installer

2019-07-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le mar. 02 juil. 2019 18:52:09 -0400, a ecrit: > Non ROMAN (Latin alphabet) languages aren't displayed correctly when > setting up, That is expected: the kernel has limited glyphs support. But speech will work fine if you select these languages. Samuel

Re: Sound card not detected by the Debian installer

2019-07-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le mar. 02 juil. 2019 22:43:50 -0400, a ecrit: > It said to add  > soft_synth  > to /etc/modules > > But that's not correct, it has to be  > > soft_synth=1 ? That shouldn't be needed, /etc/modules is merely a list of modules to load (and I don't even think =1 like this can pars

Re: Debian installer with speech not speak on laptop HP Pabilion 250G2

2019-07-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Fran Torres, le mer. 03 juil. 2019 17:19:46 +0200, a ecrit: > i downloaded the: > debian-buster-DI-rc3-amd64-DVD-1.iso from: > ftp://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/buster_di_rc3/amd64/iso-dvd/debian-buster-DI-rc3-amd64-dvd-1.iso > Also, this problem of accessibility was apeared on alfa5 of >

Re: firmware-buster-DI-alpha4-amd64

2019-07-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le jeu. 04 juil. 2019 00:58:26 -0400, a ecrit: > With many Linux versions, I can increase the console font size > substantially, but not with Debian. > > Years ago before kernel mode set, it was easy to have a low resolution > console but not know. Did you read https://w

Re: firmware-buster-DI-alpha4-amd64

2019-07-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le jeu. 04 juil. 2019 01:11:47 -0400, a ecrit: > The large size font in Arch and Slint is: > > ter-932b.psf.gz Which size is this? As mentioned in my other mail, we already have a 16x32 font in Debian. Samuel

Re: FAILS! Debian 10 Tests - Non-Free KDE and MATE

2019-07-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le sam. 06 juil. 2019 21:05:17 +0200, a ecrit: > Meanwhile, be patient and just use Debian 9 or Slint. Or the alpha 4 of Debian 10.0 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/buster_di_alpha4/amd64/iso-dvd/ Samuel

Re: FAILS! Debian 10 Tests - Non-Free KDE and MATE

2019-07-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le sam. 06 juil. 2019 17:01:08 -0400, a ecrit: > I'm using alpha 4 of Debian 10.0 but it has a serious bug in KDE konsole. Once you have installed with the alpha4 image, you can upgrade to the latest fixes from Buster with the network? Samuel

Re: Sound card not detected by the incoming Debian installer for Debian 10

2019-07-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Didier Spaier, le mer. 26 juin 2019 11:48:16 +0200, a ecrit: > On 6/26/19 11:36 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > But is the audio card detection getting delayed? That's what we are > > looking after. > > Indeed: > > didier[/tmp]$ grep snd dmesga4 > [1

Re: Sound card not detected by the Debian installer

2019-07-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jude DaShiell, le mar. 02 juil. 2019 11:40:29 -0400, a ecrit: > thinkpenguin.com sells something to plug into a usb port that has been > compatible with linux kernels for a very long time. If you buy one of > these, you can plug a headset and speakers into it and have them work. These will probab

Re: Things to cover in my bits from the DPL talk at Debconf

2019-07-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Fernando Botelho, le mer. 10 juil. 2019 09:44:22 -0300, a ecrit: > but you could mention the first good quality speech synthesizer to become > available for Linux in Brazilian Portuguese, done by a small little firm in > Curitiba, Brazil, in cooperation with RHVoice and others. > > We co

Re: Things to cover in my bits from the DPL talk at Debconf

2019-07-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Fernando Botelho, le mer. 10 juil. 2019 10:05:44 -0300, a ecrit: > We have not yet launched officially, so I doubt that the Portuguese version > is. But RHVoice might be. It is already use for Russian, English, and a few > other languages. Ok. I just mean that since it's not part of Debian, it i

Re: Things to cover in my bits from the DPL talk at Debconf

2019-07-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Fernando Botelho, le mer. 10 juil. 2019 10:19:29 -0300, a ecrit: > making a new speech synthesizer is no walk in the park, [...] one has > been made by a small company from the very city where you guys will > have your event; I thought it was worth mentioning. Ah, I hadn't realized it was from the

Re: Things to cover in my bits from the DPL talk at Debconf

2019-07-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, To the list: feel free to propose ideas, I guess Cindy will sort it out :) Cindy Sue Causey, le mer. 10 juil. 2019 01:28:07 -0400, a ecrit: > On 7/8/19, Sam Hartman wrote: > > But I'd also like to showcase our community and interesting things that > > have happened over the last year. >

Re: Reorganisation of www.debian.org: Please provide information about your Blend

2019-07-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Andreas Tille, le lun. 22 juil. 2019 03:48:41 +0200, a ecrit: > So please every Blend team that wants to be listed on [1] > in future please write an e-mail to > > Thomas Lange > > confirming that this Blend is active and wants to be represented > on the official Debian Web site. De

Accessibility of www.debian.org (Was: Reorganisation of www.debian.org: Please provide information about your Blend)

2019-07-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Fran Torres, le lun. 22 juil. 2019 11:40:36 +0200, a ecrit: > and... is not better follow the accessibility rules published on > https://www.w3.org > the WCAG V2.1 (web community accessibility guides)? > With this, the debian webpage can obtain the AA certification as minimum... Sure, bu

Re: Reorganisation of www.debian.org: Please provide information about your Blend

2019-07-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Andreas Tille, le lun. 22 juil. 2019 12:31:04 +0200, a ecrit: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 11:24:12AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > confirming that this Blend is active and wants to be represented > > > on the official Debian Web site. > > > > Debian Accessib

Re: Debian Stretch download

2019-07-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Vojtěch šmiro, le lun. 22 juil. 2019 09:57:31 +0200, a ecrit: > Please, where can I download Debian 9 stretch? I've looked for, but not > found. The latest Debian 9 can be found on http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/9.9.0/amd64/ Samuel

Re: Can grub be made to talk?

2019-07-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, In addition to what was said: - grub is in C, so no need for learning assembly to contribute sound drivers to it :) - the plan was to add sound support to grub, and pre-synthesize boot entry texts for grub to play. This plan is still only in todo lists, though. - petitboot is an in

Re: More info about petitboot? - was {Re: Can grub be made to talk?}

2019-07-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Richard Owlett, le mer. 24 juil. 2019 05:57:55 -0500, a ecrit: > On 07/24/2019 01:40 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > [snip] - petitboot is an interesting approach: you boot a Linux kernel > > that > >only runs petitboot, and there you can run a screen reader such as > &g

Bug#933025: ldtp: Porting to python3, or removing?

2019-07-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Source: ldtp Version: 3.5.0-2 Severity: important User: debian-pyt...@lists.debian.org Usertags: py2leaf, py3noport Hello, python2 is being phased out, so something needs to be done for ldtp. The upstream mailing list has been very inactive for a long time. Will there really be interest in portin

Re: Problem with Compiz Window manager on Sid

2019-08-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jean-Philippe MENGUAL, le ven. 02 août 2019 07:48:39 +0200, a ecrit: > The problem here is that when I press alt-tab, I have no feedback. I switch > window, since the focus arrives in the new one, but Orca does not say > anything. If I run Marco it works properly. Can you confirm that downgradin

Re: Problem with Compiz Window manager on Sid

2019-08-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jean-Philippe MENGUAL, le ven. 02 août 2019 11:25:33 +0200, a ecrit: > Jean-Philippe MENGUAL > > Can you confirm that downgrading to the buster version of compiz fixes > > it? Ideally you could downgrade package per compiz package. > > It is so hard, sorry. The dep tree ends-up on libmarcoprivate

Re: Problem with Compiz Window manager on Sid

2019-08-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le ven. 02 août 2019 11:37:28 +0200, a ecrit: > Jean-Philippe MENGUAL, le ven. 02 août 2019 11:25:33 +0200, a ecrit: > > Jean-Philippe MENGUAL > > > Can you confirm that downgrading to the buster version of compiz fixes > > > it? Ideally you could d

Java applications accessibility

2019-08-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I have uploaded version 0.35.0 of java-atk-wrapper in Gnome and Debian. This includes a huge pile of fixes and revamp, notably achieved by Giuseppe Capaldo, here to thanked. This should improve stability a huge lot, and fix quite a few issues! So please give it a good test :) Make sure to

Re: Java applications accessibility

2019-08-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le lun. 05 août 2019 08:53:57 +0200, a ecrit: > I've got only one java application on my machine which is Mediathekview. I > remember that it used to be accessible, but it remains quiet. I do test the wrapper with that application, so it should be working. I however really teste

Orca 3.33.90 up for testing in experimental

2019-08-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Orca 3.33.90 has landed in experimental. Please test it and report issues to orca-l...@gnome.org so they can be fixed for the 3.34 stable release! Samuel

Re: New versions of daisy-player and eBook-speaker

2019-08-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jos Lemmens, le mar. 06 août 2019 16:52:01 +0200, a ecrit: > On http://www.jlemmens.nl you'll find daisy-player 11.7.2 and > eBook-speaker 5.3. That version of daisy-player is already in testing. I have just uploaded eBook-speaker 5.3 to unstable. Samuel

Re: Java applications accessibility

2019-08-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sebastian Humenda, le mer. 07 août 2019 12:30:40 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 05.08.2019, 9:32 +0200: > >Sebastian Humenda, le lun. 05 août 2019 08:53:57 +0200, a ecrit: > >> I've got only one java application on my machine which is Mediathekview.

Re: Java applications accessibility

2019-08-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le mer. 07 août 2019 13:58:13 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 07.08.2019, 13:04 +0200: > >The details are in 900912, but basically java-atk-wrapper was considered > >too unstable to be enabled by default. With the rework I mentioned, I > >b

Re: screen magnification

2019-08-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
David, le mer. 07 août 2019 11:30:40 -0700, a ecrit: > Is there a screen magnifier available which works with Debian Buster Mate Yes, you can run compiz instead of marco, and use its ezoom magnification plugin. Samuel

reportbug making orca unresponsive

2019-08-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, It was reported on https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=934093 that running reportbug makes orca very unresponsive. This seems because reportbug has a gtk backend which half-pops up to at-spi, leaving Orca with only questions. An easy way to work around this is to use DISPLAY

Re: speech-dispatcher and speechd-el client error

2019-08-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Source: speechd-el Version: 2.8-2 Severity: important Hello, loredana, le mar. 06 août 2019 14:30:39 +, a ecrit: > I am trying to use the emacs client for speech-dispatehcer, but I get an > error: > > ssip-connection-error: (file-error make client process failed no such > file or directory

Re: reportbug making orca unresponsive

2019-08-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le ven. 09 août 2019 07:58:12 +0200, a ecrit: > > DISPLAY= reportbug > > > > to prevent the reportbug gtk backend from popping up at all. > > Does that mean that 'reportbug' is ignoring 'DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text/readline'? No, it's not. But see bug 934093: the mere fact of importing gtk onl

Re: speech-dispatcher and speechd-el client error

2019-08-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: notfound -1 2.8-2 Control: found -1 2.7-1 Control: done -1 2.8-1 loredana, le sam. 10 août 2019 12:08:45 +, a ecrit: > I tried the live version (debian 9.9 amd64) which includes speechd-el > 2.8-2 (instead of speechd-el 2.7-1) and it works properly. Apparently > the $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR

Re: Installing Debian to three hdds as one system

2019-08-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Pavel Vlček, le sam. 10 août 2019 12:21:17 +0200, a ecrit: > Can you help please? Maybe this is not for accessibility lists, but maybe > some used talking installation to install in this situation as I want. The problem is: by posting on the accessibility list only, you will get attention

Re: will it be possible to reconfigure brltty after...

2019-08-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Pavel Vlček, le sam. 10 août 2019 16:48:13 +0200, a ecrit: > when I select language, espeakup switches the espeak variant to Czech. Will > it be possible to do the same with Brltty? Speech language is reconfigured, > but Brltty table stays in English, so reading Czech characters in the > in

Re: Vmware installer 2 ways of accessibility, how to solve?

2019-08-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Pavel Vlček, le sam. 10 août 2019 17:01:27 +0200, a ecrit: > when I install vmware player under Gnome, it extracts the setup and it is > accessible. But, when I want to do it under Mate, it extracts the setup, but > the installer is inaccessible and in the terminal is some information about

Re: braille support disapear's at change console.

2019-08-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Fran Torres, le lun. 10 juin 2019 23:11:40 +0200, a ecrit: > I ussing debian GNU/Linux with speakup and BRLTTY. after boot it, i > having speak and braille without problems. But, if i want change the > console, ej: > ctrl+alt+f2, on the braille display apear's the following message: > con

Re: braille support disapear's at change console.

2019-08-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Fran Torres, le lun. 10 juin 2019 23:11:40 +0200, a ecrit: > I ussing debian GNU/Linux with speakup and BRLTTY. after boot it, i > having speak and braille without problems. But, if i want change the > console, ej: > ctrl+alt+f2, on the braille display apear's the following message: > con

Re: Various X problems

2019-08-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Just for information to close the thread: Samuel Thibault, le mar. 14 août 2018 22:10:20 +0200, a ecrit: > MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le sam. 11 août 2018 13:18:22 +0200, a ecrit: > > When I use the cut-and-paste command of brltty, it works all right, but > > randomly and for

Re: textual installer modes

2019-08-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Pavel Vlček, le sam. 10 août 2019 16:58:43 +0200, a ecrit: > the braille installer has different mode than textual. Is it possible to > switch textual mode as braille mode has? Sometimes, I switched to this mode, > but I absolutelly forget, how. This can be done by passing DEBIAN_FRONTEND

Re: Java applications accessibility

2019-08-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Samuel Thibault, le mer. 07 août 2019 14:08:26 +0200, a ecrit: > Sebastian Humenda, le mer. 07 août 2019 13:58:13 +0200, a ecrit: > > For Mediathekview, the story is a bit disapointing. It reads buttons > > occasionally, but it seems to get stuck at some point and do

Re: sound card ordering

2019-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Keith Barrett, le sam. 17 août 2019 13:41:14 +0100, a ecrit: > There are two sound cards in the system but only one was detected when I > installed buster. > > When the system starts, the card ordering is not reliable so on occasions > the non working asus card is card 0 hence producing no

Re: sound card ordering

2019-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Keith Barrett, le dim. 18 août 2019 20:30:50 +0100, a ecrit: > On 18/08/2019 18:12, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Keith Barrett, le sam. 17 août 2019 13:41:14 +0100, a ecrit: > > > There are two sound cards in the system but only one was detected when I > > > installed bu

Re: sound card ordering

2019-08-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Keith Barrett, le lun. 19 août 2019 15:55:01 +0100, a ecrit: > On 18/08/2019 21:08, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Keith Barrett, le dim. 18 août 2019 20:30:50 +0100, a ecrit: > > > Interesting, I have not modified /etc/default/espeakup but it does not > > > s

Re: sound card ordering

2019-08-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Keith Barrett, le mar. 20 août 2019 22:23:12 +0100, a ecrit: > On 20/08/2019 21:47, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Keith Barrett, le lun. 19 août 2019 15:55:01 +0100, a ecrit: > > > On 18/08/2019 21:08, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > Ke

Re: Orca 3.33.90 up for testing in experimental

2019-08-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, adri, le lun. 05 août 2019 12:01:21 +0200, a ecrit: > How can we install experimental orca packages? You can enable the experimental distribution by - adding deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ experimental main to your /etc/apt/sources.list - running sudo apt-get update - running sudo

Re: Buster and Orca

2019-08-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sebseb01, le ven. 23 août 2019 10:28:40 +0200, a ecrit: > i have a debian buster with gnome desktop (gnome-shell) with wayland. Please switch back gnome to X11. These are known issues with Wayland that can't be resolved easily. Samuel

Re: sound card ordering

2019-08-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Keith Barrett, le ven. 23 août 2019 18:09:46 +0100, a ecrit: > I know I might be going off track here but, it seems that the file > /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf is not doing anything either. > That file contains the line > options speakup synth=soft > and was created by the debian installer. I don't

Bug#935546: debian-cd: advanced and dark-theme boot have unreadable fonts on hidpi displays

2019-08-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: debian-cd Version: 3.1.26 Severity: important Tags: a11y patch pending See #910227 for the initial report: on HiDPI screens, the native resolution makes text extremely tiny, unreadable. The solution in the debian installer was to set gfxpayload=keep to use a 800x600 resolution. But unfor

Re: Buster and Orca

2019-08-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebseb01, le sam. 24 août 2019 13:01:18 +0200, a ecrit: > I donˆt have idea for solving this sound problem. any one can suggest a > solution ? you need more info ? Yes, we need more info. "doesn't work" can't be enough information :) Does spd-say foo speak something? Also, can you send the c

at-spi 2.33 stack in experimental

2019-08-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, The at-spi 2.33 stack is available for testing from the experimental repository. There isn't much new visible for user beyond: - ability to emit keys reachable with alt-gr (e.g. @ on a french keyboard) - some work to emit keys in Wayland. but testing can be welcome to avoid surprises w

Re: Buster and Orca

2019-08-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebseb01, le dim. 25 août 2019 12:48:21 +0200, a ecrit: > in espeak-ng.log i found only this line : > > pulse.c: pa_simple_new() failed: Connection refused It's surprising that this would fail in Xorg while it works in Wayland. What does running pulseaudio by hand say? Samuel

Re: Buster and Orca

2019-08-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebseb01, le lun. 26 août 2019 15:49:22 +0200, a ecrit: > If i launch pulseaudio in terminal it say it already launched. Was it running under your user identity, or something else? > Ans after this if i'm logout and login again, sound working well. You can > found > below a extract of  syslog fr

Re: Buster and Orca

2019-08-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le lun. 26 août 2019 23:00:39 +0200, a ecrit: > On 26/08/2019 22:12, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > I don't know how these are supposed to work and why it fails on > > your system. I'd recommend contacting the pulseaudio maintainers, > > pkg-pulseaudi

Re: Orca Wiki pPage

2019-08-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sebastian Humenda, le ven. 30 août 2019 10:43:10 +0200, a ecrit: > I revised and updated the Wiki article on Orca in Debian: > > https://wiki.debian.org/Orca > > It would be great if you could have a look and edit, enhance or criticise the > page. Nice! I have made a couple of change

Re: Orca Wiki pPage

2019-08-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Thinking about it: we should probably put these subpages in a accessibility/ namespace? Just like there is https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller , but also https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ , https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/MultipathSupport , etc. Samuel

Re: Orca Wiki Page

2019-08-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le sam. 31 août 2019 11:49:49 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 30.08.2019, 14:53 +0200: > >Thinking about it: we should probably put these subpages in a > >accessibility/ namespace? Just like there is > >https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller

Re: Orca Wiki Page

2019-08-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le sam. 31 août 2019 12:10:04 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 31.08.2019, 12:02 +0200: > >Better use a separate namespace early :) > Would you create the namespace, please? Apparently it's a matter of putting pages in it :) I have renamed th

Re: Java applications accessibility

2019-08-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I have had a closer look at mediathekview. Sebastian Humenda, le jeu. 15 août 2019 14:57:42 +0200, a ecrit: > After I had started the application and waited for Mediathekview to load its > data, > I got a few buttons announced. In my first attempt, > I found the "subscriptions" tab and th

Re: Java applications accessibility

2019-08-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jude DaShiell, le sam. 31 août 2019 15:51:32 -0400, a ecrit: > Was orca --replace run when that happened? Getting lost in the mediathekview interface happens even without Orca. You tab between a few items, and then you get nowhere, and you can not get back anywhere either. Samuel

Re: debian 10.1

2019-09-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Fran Torres, le lun. 02 sept. 2019 21:05:51 +0200, a ecrit: > is posible make test's of debian installer for debian 10.1 and the new > versión before publish? It hasn't been uploaded yet. Samuel

Re: extra file in orca orig.tar.xz file that isn't upstream

2019-09-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, thom...@fastmail.cn, le lun. 02 sept. 2019 12:30:11 -0400, a ecrit: > The file po/Makefile.in.in is not included with the Orca sources ? It is: $ tar tf orca-3.32.0.tar.xz | grep Makefile.in.in orca-3.32.0/po/Makefile.in.in $ tar tf orca-3.33.91.tar.xz | grep Makefile.in.in orca-3.33.91/

Re: at-spi 2.33 stack in experimental

2019-09-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Samuel Thibault, le sam. 24 août 2019 19:20:46 +0200, a ecrit: > The at-spi 2.33 stack is available for testing from the experimental > repository. > > testing can be welcome to avoid surprises when it will enter > unstable then testing. There was indeed a regression

Re: extra file in orca orig.tar.xz file that isn't upstream

2019-09-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
thom...@fastmail.cn, le lun. 02 sept. 2019 19:16:02 -0400, a ecrit: > On Mon, Sep 2, 2019, at 5:12 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > thom...@fastmail.cn, le lun. 02 sept. 2019 12:30:11 -0400, a ecrit: > > > The file po/Makefile.in.in is not included with the Orca sources > &

Re: extra file in orca orig.tar.xz file that isn't upstream

2019-09-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
thom...@fastmail.cn, le mar. 03 sept. 2019 13:50:22 -0400, a ecrit: > the releases page on Github which apparently are different than the releases > on Gnome's site. Yes, these are really problematic. github etc. make people think that a release is just a snapshot of the git tree, but with auto*

Re: at-spi 2.33 stack in experimental

2019-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jérémy Prego, le mar. 03 sept. 2019 11:07:26 +0200, a ecrit: > I have a regression when I want to read a document in su mode. the downgrader > at-spi2-core has the old version (2.32.1-4) solves the problem. > step to reproduce: > 1. open a terminal > 2. su-l and then password > 3. pluma file >

Re: at-spi 2.33 stack in experimental

2019-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jérémy Prego, le jeu. 05 sept. 2019 02:34:44 +0200, a ecrit: > I precise that I do the test with at-spi2-core version 2.32. should I do > the same thing with the 2.33 ? Yes, please, so we can be sure to be able to compare. Samuel

Re: at-spi 2.33 stack in experimental

2019-09-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I managed to reproduce the issue. I believe this should be fixed by version 2.33.92-2 of at-spi2-core. Some people have asked how to install these versions. You should be able to just add deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ experimental main to your sources.list, run apt-get update, an

Re: debian 10.1

2019-09-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le lun. 02 sept. 2019 21:28:29 +0200, a ecrit: > Fran Torres, le lun. 02 sept. 2019 21:05:51 +0200, a ecrit: > > is posible make test's of debian installer for debian 10.1 and the new > > versión before publish? > > It hasn't been uploaded yet. It

Re: at-spi 2.33 stack in experimental

2019-09-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jérémy Prego, le ven. 06 sept. 2019 15:05:34 +0200, a ecrit: > if I open a program from a terminal, pluma /tmp/fichier.txt for example, > I have not the access to the entire suite if I use the up and down > arrows. there is a small lag. I'm not sure of the details here: do mention both not

Re: debian 10.1

2019-09-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier Spaier, le ven. 06 sept. 2019 15:58:53 +0200, a ecrit: > tested on both a qemu VM with 1, 2 and 3 soundcards Are these soundcards all the same kind, or different kinds? > on on bare metal with a HDA Intel sound card. Was there only one sound card? Are the different sound cards detected b

Re: debian 10.1

2019-09-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Errr, re-reading again your mail, is there actually an issue in one of these cases? Didier Spaier, le ven. 06 sept. 2019 15:58:53 +0200, a ecrit: > tested on both a qemu VM with 1, 2 and 3 soundcards on on bare metal > with a HDA Intel sound card. > > It all cases it looks like the instal

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