espeak-ng is in!

2016-11-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, So espeak-ng has landed in unstable. For now I have uploaded speech-dispatcher, espeakup and brltty against espeak-ng. That should be making them behave much better against pulseaudio. Samuel

Bug#840618: closed by Samuel Thibault (Bug#840618: fixed in at-spi2-core 2.22.0-3)

2016-11-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: tags -1 + pending Hello, Iain Lane, on Mon 14 Nov 2016 17:06:18 +, wrote: > On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 12:06:06AM +, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > >* patches/register-client-early: Register at-spi-bus-launcher early, to > > avoid deadlock with gnome-session (Closes: Bu

Re: At-SPI not started [mate]

2016-11-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sebastian Humenda, on Tue 15 Nov 2016 11:53:29 +0100, wrote: > After an update, Which update, when? Please be specific, that is very precious information. Samuel

Re: At-SPI not started [mate]

2016-11-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sebastian Humenda, on Tue 15 Nov 2016 19:25:05 +0100, wrote: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 15.11.2016, 14:09 +0100: > >Sebastian Humenda, on Tue 15 Nov 2016 11:53:29 +0100, wrote: > >> After an update, > > > >Which update, when? Please be specific, that i

Re: Freeze of the tty

2016-11-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, on Tue 15 Nov 2016 11:42:10 +0100, wrote: > How can I get more information, to submit a useful bug report? Maybe check dmesg. I've been having issues with drivers in recent kernels. > Does anybody use the TTY full-time and has a similar issue? Might it be, that > the subscripti

Re: espeak-ng

2016-11-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Doug Smith, on Wed 16 Nov 2016 16:50:43 -0500, wrote: > Ok, I just received espeak-ng over here and I wonder how to use it. I have > both espeak and espeak-ng on here because the install script didn't take it > off. Now, I have uncommented the add module line in the > /etc/speech-dispatch

Re: Splitting out the speech-dispatcher flite module into separate package.

2016-11-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Luke Yelavich, on Thu 17 Nov 2016 12:20:31 +1100, wrote: > I am wondering whether we should do the same in Debian. In fact I > wonder whether it makes sense for all modules other than dummy and > generic to be in their own packages, Why not, indeed. We could then put them in speech-dispatc

Bug#667616: [BRLTTY] Looking at iManufacturer and iProduct for generic USB devices?

2016-11-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Mariusz, this is a follow-up for debian's bug Bug#667616: brltty greedily grabs serial ports, ftdi_sio loses connection Dave Mielke, on Sun 20 Nov 2016 14:14:43 -0500, wrote: > [quoted lines by Samuel Thibault on 2016/11/20 at 19:25 +0100] > > >Any progress on t

Bug#667616: brltty greedily grabs serial ports, ftdi_sio loses connection

2016-11-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Mariusz Gronczewski, on Thu 13 Oct 2016 13:06:22 +0200, wrote: > Looks like it came from installer: Ok, that makes sense. > in what circumstances installer starts brltty ? When udev detects a usb device looking like a braille device. The problem is that we have a few generic entries: 040

Re: Speech stops with espeak-ng

2016-11-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sebastian Humenda, on Mon 21 Nov 2016 22:35:26 +0100, wrote: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 21.11.2016, 21:29 +0100: > >Samuel Thibault, on Mon 21 Nov 2016 21:28:17 +0100, wrote: > >> Also, which versions of libespeak-ng1 and libasound2 packages do you have? > > &g

Re: accessible install problem

2016-11-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, dhof...@att.net, on Sat 26 Nov 2016 09:58:40 -0800, wrote: > I have a 64 bit Dell PC with a sound card that is not working, so I am using > a USB sound card instead. I want to install Debian using the accessible text > installation process, but the net install ISO evidently is trying to

Re: accessible install problem

2016-11-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
dhof...@att.net, on Sat 26 Nov 2016 15:03:11 -0800, wrote: > When you say the next release, do you mean official release or the > current build? The current stretch build already has the support for it. Samuel

Re: tips for a new qemu user

2016-11-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Odd Martin Baanrud, on Sun 27 Nov 2016 00:20:43 +0100, wrote: > I know this is off-topic for this list, but I also know that people here > has used/are using qemu in an accessible way. > For me, building/using a VM looks like a huge mess. > If someone would like to share some tips, please r

Re: Has someone tried Chromium

2016-11-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on Sat 26 Nov 2016 05:29:39 +0100, wrote: > Has someone tried Chromium on Debian? Here, Orca cannot speak inside. I > hoped to have chromevox from anyway, but no. Do you know how we could > implement this in Debian? I don't know if it's interct^jng, but I guess > it m

Re: stretch testing sound card picker findings

2016-11-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jude DaShiell, on Sun 27 Nov 2016 15:45:46 -0500, wrote: > Result: failure, though I got the message to select the correct sound > board the rest of debian did not come up speaking for installation. Do you mean that you got speech from within the installer, but you didn't get speech fr

Re: stretch testing sound card picker findings

2016-11-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jude DaShiell, on Sun 27 Nov 2016 16:59:20 -0500, wrote: > No speech from the installer either. Ok. I have checked with other setups, and in some cases there is a race indeed. I have fixed it, could you test this image: http://dept-info.labri.fr/~thibault/tmp/mini.iso Samuel

Re: Has someone tried Chromium

2016-11-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on Sun 27 Nov 2016 03:07:31 +0100, wrote: > But I'd like to know how we could implement chromevox. I guess you mean package it? Well, I guess there are ways to package chromium plugins, it's "just" a matter of doing it. Samuel

Re: tips for a new qemu user

2016-11-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, on Mon 28 Nov 2016 10:59:00 +0100, wrote: > >There is a wiki page for it: > >https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility#Virtualization > > I've not yet read the wiki page, first of all I'd like to know more > about what are the problems and questions regarding Quemu. The wiki p

Re: tips for a new qemu user

2016-11-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Odd Martin Baanrud, on Mon 28 Nov 2016 18:47:15 +0100, wrote: > > I've not yet read the wiki page, first of all I'd like to know more > > about what are the problems and questions regarding Quemu. > > As I stated in my previous message regarding this, I thaught building a > VM with qemu i

Re: Splitting out the speech-dispatcher flite module into separate package.

2016-12-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Luke Yelavich, on Mon 21 Nov 2016 08:14:30 +1100, wrote: > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 04:20:38AM AEDT, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Why not, indeed. We could then put them in speech-dispatcher's > > recommends or suggests as we see fit. I guess we want espeak-ng as > > recom

Bug#838778: libatk still causes crashes

2016-12-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sebastian Humenda, on Fri 02 Dec 2016 18:09:48 +0100, wrote: > I've attached a full back trace (pretty long) taken with "thread apply all bt > full". I've also attached the hs_err log file. Thanks for the trace! I have found the corresponding culprit. Could you try with version -12 which

Bug#797348: ebook-speaker: Segfault if no epub in the directory

2016-12-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Paul Gevers, on Sat 10 Dec 2016 08:53:20 +0100, wrote: > Control: tags -1 moreinfo unreproducible > > On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 14:07:08 +0200 Samuel Thibault > wrote: > > MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le Sun 30 Aug 2015 03:31:20 +0200, a écrit : > > > Le 30/08/2015 03:

Re: stretch orca and wifi connection setup

2016-12-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, FTR, the issue about the debian installer not configuring the wifi on the installed system is https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=694068 the main issue is that when network-manager is not getting installed, one would have to write the wifi password in the world-readable /etc/n

Re: stretch orca and wifi connection setup

2016-12-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Nick Gawronski, on Mon 12 Dec 2016 23:26:20 -0600, wrote: > Why not have options in the installer at low priority about putting the > information into the interfaces file and setting up the wireless connections Please see bug report and get some people working on it, simply. > for command

Bug#848008: brltty: fails to detect keyboard when started before systemd-udev-settle.service

2016-12-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sebastian Humenda, on Tue 13 Dec 2016 06:32:13 +0100, wrote: > When enabling a keyboard table in /etc/brltty.conf, brltty should provide > navigation commands using the keyboard. On some systems, this doesn't work > after > boot, because the keyboard has not been detected yet. The fix is t

Re: x server crashes

2016-12-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Keith Barrett, on Tue 13 Dec 2016 17:06:23 +, wrote: > After updating system on 12th November, xserver is crashing. > > I use startx to start the gui. > > Error in /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg': free(): Invalid Pointer: 0xb73107e0 > backtrace: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/lib/c.so.6(+0x6dfb7)(0XB71cafb7) >

RE: Re: helpful info

2016-12-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi! Look what I've just found for you, you'll be surprised, more info here <http://elis.nathantrose.com/2829> See you around, Samuel Thibault From: Joerg Jaspert [mailto:ftpmas...@debian.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:13 PM To: phil...@sadleder.de Subject: And

Bug#848996: at-spi2-core: Failed to register client

2016-12-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Helge Kreutzmann, on Wed 21 Dec 2016 17:06:29 +0100, wrote: > Dec 21 10:55:39 samd at-spi-bus-laun[23013]: Failed to register client: > GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name > org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files > I did not experience

Bug#848016: brltty-espeak: very monotonous speech and noticable delays in speech output

2017-01-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Eric Scheibler, on Fri 23 Dec 2016 12:34:04 +0100, wrote: > I still can confirm these issues (Debian testing, Brltty 5.4-3 and > brltty-espeak 5.4-3). Can you please test with the latest version libespeak-ng, 1.49.0+dfsg-3? Samuel

Re: Using speakup with a serial-connected speech synth

2017-01-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Odd Martin Baanrud, on Wed 04 Jan 2017 19:11:19 +0100, wrote: > It’s connected to a modern laptop via an usb to serial adapter. This is not supported by speakup yet. Samuel

Re: orca on debian stretch testing

2017-01-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sebastian Humenda, on Thu 05 Jan 2017 20:56:20 +0100, wrote: > >I just installed Debian testing using the net installation iso for the > >week of November 28th, 2016 and the only major issues I found is that if you > >press a key espeakup lags around a little behind of when you press the ke

Re: orca on debian stretch testing

2017-01-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, on Fri 06 Jan 2017 09:20:46 +0100, wrote: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 06.01.2017, 0:45 +0100: > >Sebastian Humenda, on Thu 05 Jan 2017 20:56:20 +0100, wrote: > >> >I just installed Debian testing using the net installation iso for the > >> >we

Bug#848016: brltty-espeak: very monotonous speech and noticable delays in speech output

2017-01-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Eric Scheibler, on Mon 02 Jan 2017 22:16:36 +0100, wrote: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 02.01.2017, 20:56 +0100: > >Can you please test with the latest version libespeak-ng, 1.49.0+dfsg-3? > > Same problem. Could you try the latest version, 1.49.0+dfsg-4? Thanks Samuel

Bug#848016: brltty-espeak: very monotonous speech and noticable delays in speech output

2017-01-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Eric Scheibler, on Sun 08 Jan 2017 09:05:09 +0100, wrote: > 2. The delay after muting the screen reader is still there too (used the > shift key for brltty) Err, but is shift really supposed to shut brltty up? Without using the keycapture feature, brltty can't detect shift presses. This

Bug#848158: Bug#848016: brltty-espeak: very monotonous speech and noticable delays in speech output

2017-01-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: tags -1 + pending Hello, Eric Scheibler, on Sun 08 Jan 2017 09:05:09 +0100, wrote: > 1. The monotonous speech output persists. I dug a bit and found the issue, reported upstream, and have uploaded a fixed version. Samuel

Bug#848016: brltty-espeak: very monotonous speech and noticable delays in speech output

2017-01-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, on Tue 10 Jan 2017 22:18:53 +0100, wrote: > Mmm, when I try espeak and espeak-ng I don't really see a difference Put another way, with version -5 containing my latest monotonous fixes, I am not aware of regressions any more compared to espeak (except the debian install

Bug#848016: brltty-espeak: very monotonous speech and noticable delays in speech output

2017-01-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Eric Scheibler, on Wed 11 Jan 2017 15:48:39 +0100, wrote: > I thought, that it would be easy to reproduce. Never assume that something is easy to reproduce. When a bug is not fixed, it means the maintainer doesn't have it :) > >> Instead the speech output overlaps during fast cursor navigation.

Bug#848016: brltty-espeak: very monotonous speech and noticable delays in speech output

2017-01-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Eric Scheibler, on Wed 11 Jan 2017 15:48:39 +0100, wrote: > I think, that the mute delay and overlapping belong to the same problem. It > seems, that the > espeak-ng module needs too long to clean the current speech buffer. Or in > other words: the time > between the call to cancel speaki

Bug#848016: brltty-espeak: very monotonous speech and noticable delays in speech output

2017-01-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, on Thu 12 Jan 2017 03:27:24 +0100, wrote: > I'm very surprised to see this 200 value, which means 200ms, while > studies have shown that "interactivity" is usually seen bad by humans > beyond 100ms. > > One thing we can do for Stretch is to

Bug#851484: espeak-ng: Update Homepage and Vcs-* fields

2017-01-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jeremy Bicha, on Sun 15 Jan 2017 09:10:51 -0500, wrote: > The Homepage and Vcs fields still point to espeak instead of espeak-ng. > > Patch attached. Patch was forgotten :) Anyway, I figured it out easily of course, and will fix them. Thanks, Samuel

Bug#848016: brltty-espeak: very monotonous speech and noticable delays in speech output

2017-01-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Eric Scheibler, on Fri 13 Jan 2017 13:04:24 +0100, wrote: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 12.01.2017, 3:50 +0100: > >Samuel Thibault, on Thu 12 Jan 2017 03:27:24 +0100, wrote: > >> I'm very surprised to see this 200 value, which means 200ms, while > >> studie

Speech overlapping with espeak-ng

2017-01-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Kirk Reiser, on Fri 13 Jan 2017 09:50:24 -0500, wrote: > If you have speakup running with espeakup just review up or down the > screen with the 7 and 9 keys. You can feel the speech doesn't cut off > immediately and in fact it sounds like you are mixing the speech from > the previous line i

Re: Speech overlapping with espeak-ng

2017-01-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, on Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:57:48 +0100, wrote: > I'll try to introduce that in brltty too. I have uploaded brltty packages on http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/ too. The delay can be changed with the cancel_pause espeak parameter, e.g.: /sbin/brltty -S cancel_p

Bug#721763: brltty grabs tty from CP2102/CP2109 device disconnecting default kernel driver

2017-01-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Tjeerd Pinkert, on Tue 03 Sep 2013 22:30:18 +0200, wrote: > On connecting a CERN SPEC board (see www.ohwr.org White Rabbit > project) through it's USB to serial convertor (CP2102/CP2109, > vid=10C4h, pid=EA60h) to the system, expecting a ttyUSB device to be > installed using the default ker

Re: speech-dispatcher and RC bugs

2017-01-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Paul Gevers, on Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:17:57 +0100, wrote: > Is anybody working on the two RC bugs in speech-dispatcher? Uh, it seems I somehow simply completely did not receive mails about them... > #847143: speech-dispatcher-*: missing Breaks+Replaces for package split > #838665: /usr/lib/python3/d

Re: No sound From Orca after a Strech Install

2017-01-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, am_d...@fastmail.fm, on Sun 22 Jan 2017 11:22:54 -0500, wrote: > In the Stretch install, the HDMI sound device was selected as the > default device in the Mate Control Panel on both laptops. Mmm, I'm afraid it might be the same kind of issue as I had. I've put in /etc/modprobe.d/perso.con

[HEADS-UP] Please test Re: Speech overlapping with espeak-ng

2017-01-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
ebian-buildd buildd-experimental main Please test! Samuel Samuel Thibault, on Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:57:48 +0100, wrote: > I have uploaded to > > http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/ > > a version of espeakup which introduces a 150ms delay after the cancel. > This should be sm

Re: [HEADS-UP] Please test Re: Speech overlapping with espeak-ng

2017-01-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, on Mon 23 Jan 2017 13:21:03 +0100, wrote: > deb http://incoming.debian.org/debian-buildd buildd-experimental main to be more precise: after having added this line to /etc/apt/sources.list, run apt-get update apt-get install brltty=5.4-5 apt-get install espeakup=1:0.8

Re: [HEADS-UP] Please test Re: Speech overlapping with espeak-ng

2017-01-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, on Mon 23 Jan 2017 13:31:24 +0100, wrote: > Samuel Thibault, on Mon 23 Jan 2017 13:21:03 +0100, wrote: > > deb http://incoming.debian.org/debian-buildd buildd-experimental main > > to be more precise: after having added this line to > /etc/apt/sources.list

Re: [HEADS-UP] Please test Re: Speech overlapping with espeak-ng

2017-01-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Thanks for your tests, Sebastian Humenda, on Mon 23 Jan 2017 14:41:23 +0100, wrote: > At the moment, I feel as if a really small cancel pause would be the option I > could live best with. Just to check, did you try just plain 0 cancel pause ? Samuel

Re: gnome-speech maintenance

2017-01-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
mattias jonsson, on Mon 23 Jan 2017 20:01:14 +0100, wrote: > gnome speech are useless this days dasher still uses it. Samuel

Re: speech-dispatcher and RC bugs

2017-01-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Paul Gevers, on Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:17:57 +0100, wrote: > #838665: /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/speechd_config/config.py: runs > argparse on Python module import Actually the fix was included in 0.8.6 already, so I have closed it. Samuel

Re: speech-dispatcher and RC bugs

2017-01-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Paul Gevers, on Tue 17 Jan 2017 22:17:57 +0100, wrote: > #847143: speech-dispatcher-*: missing Breaks+Replaces for package split And that one was actually fixed by 0.8.5-6, so closed accordingly :) Samuel

[HEADS-UP part 2] Please test Re: Speech overlapping with espeak-ng

2017-01-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Thanks to Sebastian's tests and reports (we ended up recording what was produced with his audio setup), I could track and find what I believe was the bug. So, can people please test libespeak-ng1 version 1.49.0+dfsg-7 which should be available within a few hours? You can use the unstable

Re: [HEADS-UP] Please test?Re: Speech overlapping with espeak-ng

2017-01-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Tom Fowle, on Mon 23 Jan 2017 20:31:27 -0800, wrote: > Am I correct to assume these versions do not effect use of speakup with > hardware synthesizers? Yes. > and would not apply to such setups using wheezie? It doesn't either. Samuel

Re: [HEADS-UP] Please test Re: Speech overlapping with espeak-ng

2017-01-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Kirk Reiser, on Tue 24 Jan 2017 13:06:16 -0500, wrote: > I have to say the fixes you put in over the past day or so have > improved espeak-ng responsiveness emensely. Cool :) Samuel

Re: gnome-speech maintenance

2017-01-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Michael Biebl, on Mon 23 Jan 2017 19:11:25 +0100, wrote: > with Mario having retired, I wonder what to do about gnome-speech [1] > and if the accessibility team wants to take over the package. If the gnome team doesn't want to maintain the package, the accessibility team can take it, yes.

Re: No sound From Orca after a Strech Install

2017-01-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Luke Yelavich, on Mon 23 Jan 2017 20:16:15 +1100, wrote: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 07:37:05PM AEDT, Colomban Wendling wrote: > > Le 22/01/2017 à 19:02, am_d...@fastmail.fm a écrit : > > > […] > > > I did find a solution to my problem. In the > > > Orca preferences by changing the option fro

Re: Debian Installer Stretch RC 2 release

2017-02-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Cyril Brulebois, on Thu 02 Feb 2017 01:39:18 +0100, wrote: > The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the second release > candidate of the installer for Debian 9 "Stretch". For information, this installer release contains the fixed espeak-ng for reactivity. Samuel

Re: Debian Installer Stretch RC 2 release

2017-02-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, on Thu 02 Feb 2017 02:13:45 +0100, wrote: > Samuel Thibault (2017-02-02): > > Cyril Brulebois, on Thu 02 Feb 2017 01:39:18 +0100, wrote: > > > The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the second > > > release candidate of the inst

Re: Debian Installer Stretch RC 2 release

2017-02-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on Thu 02 Feb 2017 02:31:34 +0100, wrote: > Important to test, as latest tests seemed to show that once !estarted > after an accessible installation, the speech (Orca) doesn't seem to run. I had tried it with RC1 just before the announcement, without problem (installation wi

Bug#852699: dasher -- useless under GNOME (Wayland)

2017-02-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Thibaut Paumard, on Fri 03 Feb 2017 13:09:37 +0100, wrote: > A work-around is to run dasher with GDK_BACKEND=x11: > > GDK_BACKEND=x11 dasher Perhaps we (and upstream) should do this by default for now? Samuel

Bug#852699: dasher -- useless under GNOME (Wayland)

2017-02-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Thibaut Paumard, on Fri 03 Feb 2017 14:59:46 +0100, wrote: > It looks fairly easy to disable the wayland backend. I don't have the > time to try right now, but it should be enough to call > gdk_set_allowed_backends ("x11"); > just before gtk_init(). > > Unfortunately I doubt such change

Bug#854295: brltty-espeak: crashes while emitting speech

2017-02-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Could you install: Sebastian Humenda, on Sun 05 Feb 2017 21:02:37 +0100, wrote: > #1 0x5653f0d0437c in asyncExecuteIoCallback () brltty-dbgsym > #0 0x7f3fec3c7540 in () at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libasound.so.2 and libasound2-dbgsym Samuel

Re: latest stretch installer and braille

2017-02-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, mjonsson1...@gmail.com, on Mon 06 Feb 2017 14:42:42 +0100, wrote: > Seems it are broken Please provide more details, otherwise we can not do anything about it, since it does work for me. So at least specify which braille device you are using, how it is connected, what actually happens, etc

Bug#854295: brltty-espeak: crashes while emitting speech

2017-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sebastian Humenda, on Sun 05 Feb 2017 21:02:37 +0100, wrote: > I'm not sure whether the issue is actually in BRLTTY or espeak-ng, but > I couldn't encounter any issues while using speech-dispatcher with > espeak-ng yet. Ok. I'm afraid that might be an issue with the way BRLTTY uses espeak

Bug#854295: brltty-espeak: crashes while emitting speech

2017-02-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, on Thu 09 Feb 2017 10:23:36 +0100, wrote: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 08.02.2017, 23:49 +0100: > >Sebastian Humenda, on Sun 05 Feb 2017 21:02:37 +0100, wrote: > >> I'm not sure whether the issue is actually in BRLTTY or espeak-ng, but > >> I cou

Re: SV: latest stretch installer and braille

2017-02-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, mjonsson1...@gmail.com, on Mon 06 Feb 2017 14:55:01 +0100, wrote: > And baum supervario2 connected from usb Could you run lsusb -v on the host while the device is plugged and the VM is not running and post the output, so we can check what the device looks like to Linux? Thanks, Samuel

Re: latest stretch installer and braille

2017-02-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
mattias, on Sun 12 Feb 2017 11:48:24 +0100, wrote: > here it is Ok, so this is a device that should indeed get autodetected (0403:fe72), this is actually the very device that I usually test. We thus need more information to be able to do anything about the issue. Would you be able to run dmes

Bug#854295: brltty-espeak: crashes while emitting speech

2017-02-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Samuel Thibault, on Thu 09 Feb 2017 10:37:17 +0100, wrote: > Sebastian Humenda, on Thu 09 Feb 2017 10:23:36 +0100, wrote: > > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 08.02.2017, 23:49 +0100: > > >Sebastian Humenda, on Sun 05 Feb 2017 21:02:37 +0100, wrote: > > >> I&#

Re: latest stretch installer and braille

2017-02-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
mattias, on Sun 12 Feb 2017 12:16:03 +0100, wrote: > how? because braille not work on the installer Unfortunately, I can only suggest looking for assistance from somebody who could do it for you. Samuel

Bug#854295: brltty-espeak: crashes while emitting speech

2017-02-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, on Mon 13 Feb 2017 10:47:33 +0100, wrote: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 12.02.2017, 12:15 +0100: > […]0 > >> > >Sebastian Humenda, on Sun 05 Feb 2017 21:02:37 +0100, wrote: > >> > >> I'm not sure whether the issue is actually in B

Re: [stretch RC2] untranslated accessibility entry in main-menu

2017-02-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Cyril Brulebois, on mer. 15 févr. 2017 21:55:17 +0100, wrote: > Holger Wansing (2017-02-15): > > I just noticed an untranslated entry in the main-menu of the netinst RC2 > > installer: > > > > Access software for a blind person using a braille display > > > > I tested German, Czech

Bug#855446: debtags: Adding more accessibility tags

2017-02-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Source: debtags Severity: normal Hello, This is actually an old idea that never got implemented, but some recent discussion showed that it would be really useful, basically: users would like to have accessibility::accessible-with::foobar tags for applications. More precisely, these are the kind

Re: Bug#855446: debtags: Adding more accessibility tags

2017-02-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Enrico Rossi, on lun. 20 févr. 2017 11:08:57 +0100, wrote: > and accessibility::screen-reader which is already present? > > there is accessibility::speech These are completely different: accessibility::screen-reader and accessibility::speech are for tools which *provide* accessibility, wh

Re: debtags: Adding more accessibility tags

2017-02-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, on sam. 18 févr. 2017 11:50:11 +0100, wrote: > to describe whether the package is technically accessible: > - accessibility::accessible-with::at-spi I'm thinking that this should perhaps rather be accessibility::accessible-via::at-spi so as to mark that this is reall

Bug#854295: brltty-espeak: crashes while emitting speech

2017-02-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, on lun. 27 févr. 2017 14:30:19 +0100, wrote: > Sebastian Humenda schrieb am 20.02.2017, 11:13 +0100: > >>Ok, we can wait more, no pb :) > >No crashes, I think it's safe. > Ok, seems hard to reproduce. Here's another bt. Does the change at least reduce the frequency of happening?

Re: espeakup will not readvery long documents when using programs like cat

2017-02-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Nick Gawronski, on mer. 15 févr. 2017 09:55:11 -0600, wrote: > What would it take for one of the developers to track down what this > issue is and fix it? Well, either getting investigation information, or being able to reproduce it reliably and quickly. The question of question that can h

Re: Bug#855446: debtags: Adding more accessibility tags

2017-02-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jean-Philippe MENGUAL, on mer. 01 mars 2017 00:18:53 +0100, wrote: > I think accessibility::accessible-with::at-spi is the most transversal tag, > and then very interesting. Other proposals you do seem for me good, but more > difficult to do: 1st because it means a package should be tested with a

Re: Speech Dispatcher cutting off the end of phrases while using Flite

2017-03-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, am_d...@fastmail.fm, on lun. 20 févr. 2017 12:06:26 -0500, wrote: > I notice that while using Orca with Speech Dispatcher and Flite, the end > of most phrases are cut off. It usually cuts off the second half of the > last word spoken. I was just wondering if anyone has noticed this before >

Bug#857558: brltty: Brltty restarts when typing too fast on Vario Ultra

2017-03-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: brltty Version: 5.3 Severity: serious Justification: Makes computer unusable with Vario Ultra devices Hello, The brltty support for Vario Ultra has a very inconvenient issue: when typing too fast (e.g. typing double letters or typing backspace, etc.), brltty restarts its Baum driver for

Bug#857617: espeak - mbrola voice not found

2017-03-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Hans-J. Ullrich, on lun. 13 mars 2017 11:55:32 +0100, wrote: > it looks like ther eis a returning bg with espeak.I discovered, that espeak > is not finding the > mbrola speech files. > stat("/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/espeak-data/voices/mb/mb-de7", > {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=106, .

Accessibility topic of LSM 2017

2017-03-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
LSM/RMLL 2017 17th Libre Software Meeting   July 1-7, 2017   Saint-Etienne, France   http://2017.rmll.info/   Call For Papers and Participation limited to accessibility topic [we apologize for dupli

Re: Bug#852149: Re : Re: Firefox-ESR Crash in Stretch when exiting Browser with Orca running

2017-03-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Testers: Ping? Thibaut Paumard, on sam. 04 mars 2017 09:11:56 +0100, wrote: > I've uploaded the patched firefox-esr, built on stretch, here: > https://people.debian.org/~thibaut/firefox-esr/ > > All the .deb are there. The main package is at: > https://people.debian.org/~thibaut/firefox-e

Re: Bug#852149: Re : Re: Firefox-ESR Crash in Stretch when exiting Browser with Orca running

2017-03-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Alex ARNAUD, on mer. 15 mars 2017 11:19:43 +0100, wrote: > Le 14/03/2017 à 22:52, Samuel Thibault a écrit : > > Testers: Ping? > > I would like to test but I'm using Debian 8.7 Jessie. I should build a > version for Jessie to be able to test. I have up

speech-enabled expert/rescue/autoinstall keyboard shortcuts

2017-03-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Somehow somebody managed to raise that there is no menu entry for starting the rescue mode with speech synthesis enabled. That actually also raises the question of doing the same for expert install and automated install. It's really a matter of adding the menu entry: just copy/paste the e

Re: speech-enabled expert/rescue/autoinstall keyboard shortcuts

2017-03-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, on mer. 22 mars 2017 17:46:09 -0500, wrote: > Why not add shortcuts to the main menu for speech That's precisely what I am suggesting in this thread. Samuel

Re: speech-enabled expert/rescue/autoinstall keyboard shortcuts

2017-03-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on mer. 22 mars 2017 03:57:37 +0100, wrote: > And what about affecting shift-s or ctrl-s to run tts in the rescue > mode? That's not really simple to implement actually. One has to have a way to start rescue mode anyway. And it seems that just like me, people don't actually

Re: new user starting up, where can i download the accessible installer for debian and the quick start guide?

2017-03-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Amir-Trend Plus, on lun. 27 mars 2017 12:31:51 +0800, wrote: > someone told me that debian is accessible for the blind, Yes it is. > my connection is not good and it will waste my connection and time > downloading the not accessible installer. Ok. I have added to https://wiki.debian.org/

Re: new user starting up, where can i download the accessible installer for debian and the quick start guide?

2017-03-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Odd Martin Baanrud, on ven. 31 mars 2017 13:01:14 +0200, wrote: > Hello Samuel, which images aren’t accessible? As the wiki says: the non-gtk netboot mini.iso image, only. Samuel

Re: secure boot

2017-04-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, mattias jonsson, on sam. 01 avril 2017 14:44:42 +0200, wrote: > will debian stretch in its current stage support secure boot? mattias, on dim. 02 avril 2017 12:28:34 +0200, wrote: > will debian stretch supports it? I guess that nobody answered because nobody on debian-accessibility@ knows

Re: Updating gnome-orca to version 3.24

2017-04-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on dim. 02 avril 2017 23:08:00 +0200, wrote: > I think it's a good point to begin packaging, indeed. Indeed. It should be quite trivial. People will probably be interested to have it in experimental anyway, so it will be useful. Samuel

Re: live system during install and debian mate

2017-04-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Amir-Trend Plus, on lun. 03 avril 2017 23:48:06 +0800, wrote: > "The gnome liveCD has screen reader support. At the boot menu, one has > to type enter (TODO: add beep). Then the desktop launches up (TODO: > add beep), and one can press super-alt-s to start Orca." Note that this is about th

Bug#859477: debian-live: Make desktop emit some sound on startup

2017-04-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: debian-live Severity: normal User: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org Usertags: a11y Hello, The debian live cd is accessible to blind people by pressing super-alt-s. It is however hard to know when one can press that shortcut. The desktop should thus emit some sound when it is ready t

Re: live system during install and debian mate

2017-04-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Amir-Trend Plus, on mar. 04 avril 2017 09:45:39 +0800, wrote: > is it true the graphical installer is not accessible? Yes. > hen why one needs live system iso? Sighted people can use it. > and is it true for all debian versions? Yes. > i am downloading the debian 8 latest live. the problem n

Re: live system during install and debian mate

2017-04-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
mattias, on mar. 04 avril 2017 09:44:57 +0200, wrote: > but why can ubuntu have a accessible graphical insatll with orca and not > debian? Because nobody took the time to fix the few bits that need to be fixed. Samuel

Re: live system during install and debian mate

2017-04-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, on mar. 04 avril 2017 09:53:08 +0200, wrote: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 04.04.2017, 9:42 +0200: > >> i am downloading the debian 8 latest live. the problem now, using the cd > >> installer, 650 mb, > > > >I don't understand why you are

Re: guide for installing debian using the command line

2017-04-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Amir-Trend Plus, on dim. 09 avril 2017 06:33:30 +0800, wrote: > i need to install debian to a pc that has no internet connection. last > time i tried, it requires me to setup the connection during the > install and since no connection was found, it failed. Was it really a fatal failure, an

Re: guide for installing debian using the command line

2017-04-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Odd Martin Baanrud, on dim. 09 avril 2017 01:36:19 +0200, wrote: > If you’re starting the installer by just pressing Enter, you can press Tab > when you hear the beep, and type: > priority=medium Well, to change the priority it's easier to do it from the main menu by hitting "back". On can do tha

Re: Bug#859926: speechd-up: fails to install

2017-04-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: retitle -1 speechd-up: fails to install Hello, Mika Hanhijärvi, on dim. 09 avril 2017 13:42:36 +0300, wrote: > When I try to install speechd-up package I get this error: > > E: speechd-up: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error > exit status 1 Do you happen to hav

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