Hi,
I precise I'm ready to think with GNOME of way to help for face-to-face
tests, regression tests, writing docs. But it implies a willing, a true
choice, and time. So ... to be discussed.
Regards,
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> Mario Lang, on Sun 22 May 2016 21:56:00 +0200,
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Mario Lang, on Mon 23 May 2016 00:30:49 +0200, wrote:
> And, I also question intuitivity: If such documentation is necessary,
> the system isn't really inherently "accessible" from a usability
> stand-point. Put in other words, why is such documentation even
> necessary.
Well, just like it was ne
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Am 23.05.2016 um 00:30 schrieb Mario Lang:
> I would be very much interested in that.
> GNOME2 had nice things like a keyboard shortcut manual. That already
> brought you 50% down the road.
…
> blind people interact with a desktop. If you can write a guide which
> explains how to use GNOME3 wit
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> Mario Lang, on Sun 22 May 2016 21:56:00 +0200, wrote:
>> What I am trying to say is, if a desktop wants to provide Accessibility
>> that is actually useful to users, they will have to invest more time
>> into it then they currently are willing to do.
>
> Well, perhaps it
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hi there,
would it be usefull if the orca list was a part of this discussian?
you may get more feed back :)
I myself am using mate, because of it's lowerd memmery footprint, and
I don't know how to navigate thrue menues.
mate is far more responcive than gnome is.
not much I know i've not used gnom
Hi,
BTW., I'd like to give GNOME3 a try. But because I need my machine for
daily work it would be interesting if I can install the gnome packages
without making my MATE environment unuseable. Is this working?
Ciao,
Christian
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Mario Lang, on Sun 22 May 2016 21:56:00 +0200, wrote:
> What I am trying to say is, if a desktop wants to provide Accessibility
> that is actually useful to users, they will have to invest more time
> into it then they currently are willing to do.
Well, perhaps it's not a question of time, but of
Hi,
Thanks for this great summary. Just a question: why would one user
choose Emacspeak instead of speech-el? My purpose is really not to
troll, jut to know both utilities exist and seem maintained.
Regards,
Le 22/05/2016 21:54, raman a écrit :
> SGTM.
>
> The end-state we need to achieve with
Hi,
On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 09:56:00PM +0200, Mario Lang wrote:
>Samuel Thibault writes:
>
>> Cyril Brulebois, on Sat 21 May 2016 23:13:17 +0200, wrote:
>>> * brltty:
>>> - Install MATE desktop by default when brltty is used in d-i.
>>> * espeakup:
>>> - Install MATE desktop by default
SGTM.
The end-state we need to achieve with the package:
1. User on an out-of-the-box setup gets Emacs up and talking with
Espeak -- no questions asked.
2. This gives a user a setup that talks, that setup can then be used to
set up other servers etc -- the only one that really makes sense today
Samuel Thibault writes:
> Cyril Brulebois, on Sat 21 May 2016 23:13:17 +0200, wrote:
>> * brltty:
>> - Install MATE desktop by default when brltty is used in d-i.
>> * espeakup:
>> - Install MATE desktop by default when espeakup is used in d-i.
>
> This change has triggered discussion o
Short summary for d-accessibility:
Upstream emacspeak, Raman, just e-mailed me to discuss the packaging of
emacspeak in Debian. This email is around the fifth in the conversation.
He proposes we simplify things.
On 22-05-16 20:20, raman wrote:
> 1. Yes, we can copy that list on this discussion --
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gnome uses too much memory especially on older hardware to the point of
keyboard latency; newer systems with more memory don't have this problem
and mate has a smaller memory footprint. I have sonar-mate running fine
but run with difficulty using gnome on a 1GB ram machine. Also, all
desktop
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Hi,
(sorry, very long mail, but useful to argue and discuss on concrete matters)
Thanks Samuel and Michael for your feedbacks. I defend the choice of
MATE by default in Debian. I'll try to explain why, and I'm ready to
read any reply, test things relying on such replies, and make my thought
chang
Unless some compeling reason exists not to do it, could wireless-tools
and iw get added to the isos? I don't know why iwconfig continues to be
on this type of debian when iw was supposed to have replaced it and is
supposedly more harmonious with modern kernels. I tried configuring my
wifi con
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On 05/22/2016 02:44 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:
Hi, I was trying to find what is the best Debian live disc to use that
has accessibility either speakup or orca or both but I would rather
have speakup for console access? Do any of the discs have a timeout
at the boot prompt other then the beep?
Hi, I was trying to find what is the best Debian live disc to use that
has accessibility either speakup or orca or both but I would rather have
speakup for console access? Do any of the discs have a timeout at the
boot prompt other then the beep? Nick Gawronski
Hello,
Nick Gawronski, on Sun 22 May 2016 06:22:09 -0500, wrote:
> I am also wondering if it has something to do with pulseaudio and the
> issues with running both orca and espeakup at the same time? Nick
> Gawronski
Not, that technical issue is not really related with the question of
gnome vs M
Hi, I am for any desktop provided it has good accessibility support and
that orca works equally as good with the applications I need to use
mainly browsing the web and connecting and disconnecting to wireless
networks. I am also wondering if it has something to do with pulseaudio
and the issue
Hello,
Cyril Brulebois, on Sat 21 May 2016 23:13:17 +0200, wrote:
> * brltty:
> - Install MATE desktop by default when brltty is used in d-i.
> * espeakup:
> - Install MATE desktop by default when espeakup is used in d-i.
This change has triggered discussion on the debian-boot IRC chann
Hello,
Just to emphasize the items for accessibility, as listed below.
feedback, bug reports, and suggestions are always welcome :)
Cyril Brulebois, on Sat 21 May 2016 23:13:17 +0200, wrote:
> * brltty:
> - Install MATE desktop by default when brltty is used in d-i.
> - Disable auto-dete
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