Re: Has anyone successfully bootstrapped gcc-4.6.3 on m68k?

2012-05-18 Thread Andreas Schwab
Vaugha Brewchuk writes: > I also wonder whether perhaps a different gcc-4 version is a better > starting point for the NeXT? Support for m68k-*-nextstep* has been removed 10 years ago. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, sch...@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5

Re: Has anyone successfully bootstrapped gcc-4.6.3 on m68k?

2012-05-18 Thread Vaugha Brewchuk
On 2012-05-17, at 11:47 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Vaugha Brewchuk dixit: > >> The biggest challenge on the NeXT is that the libraries are approx. 20 >> years old. What is there of POSIX, is very broken, and many of the >> standard c library functions are completely obsolete. So even once a >>

Re: Has anyone successfully bootstrapped gcc-4.6.3 on m68k?

2012-05-18 Thread Vaugha Brewchuk
On 2012-05-17, at 11:33 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Vaugha Brewchuk dixit: > >> it and see what happens. Unfortunately I will not know for at least 12 >> hours what the outcome is :-). Yes, just the genattrtab takes over 9.5 >> hours to execute on a 33 MHz 68040. It is an exercise in patience a

Re: Has anyone successfully bootstrapped gcc-4.6.3 on m68k?

2012-05-18 Thread Vaugha Brewchuk
On 2012-05-18, at 4:39 AM, Andreas Schwab wrote: > Vaugha Brewchuk writes: > >> I also wonder whether perhaps a different gcc-4 version is a better >> starting point for the NeXT? > > Support for m68k-*-nextstep* has been removed 10 years ago. Indeed, gcc-3.2.3 was the last version with m68k-

Re: Has anyone successfully bootstrapped gcc-4.6.3 on m68k?

2012-05-18 Thread Vincent Rivière
On 18/05/2012 02:05, Vaugha Brewchuk wrote: ../../../../src/gcc-4.6.3-NS-1/libgcc/../gcc/unwind-pe.h:271:1: internal compiler error: in extract_insn, at recog.c:2109 This bug looks similar to that one: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=50882 There are a lot of open bugs in GCC :-( I

Re: Has anyone successfully bootstrapped gcc-4.6.3 on m68k?

2012-05-18 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Vaugha Brewchuk dixit: >> that’s on a fast emulated Atari… makes me wish for one of these >> several 100 MHz Coldfires with MMU, except that effort to make >> the Debian/m68k port usable on both seems not have gone far yet. > >Time for the FireBee? :-) Nope, that’s MMU-less (IIRC). >Thank you fo

Re: Has anyone successfully bootstrapped gcc-4.6.3 on m68k?

2012-05-18 Thread Vincent Rivière
On 18/05/2012 20:00, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Time for the FireBee? :-) Nope, that’s MMU-less (IIRC). Fortunately, you are wrong :-) The facts: 1) The FireBee features a ColdFire MCF5474 which embeds a ColdFire V4e core, an FPU, an MMU, and much more. No trouble with the hardware. 2) The L

Re: Has anyone successfully bootstrapped gcc-4.6.3 on m68k?

2012-05-18 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Vincent Rivi�re dixit: > 1) The FireBee features a ColdFire MCF5474 which embeds a ColdFire V4e core, > an > FPU, an MMU, and much more. No trouble with the hardware. Aah, good. > 2) The Linux kernel has already been ported to the FireBee. Both the MMUless > ucLinux, *and* the full MMU Linux wi

Re: Has anyone successfully bootstrapped gcc-4.6.3 on m68k?

2012-05-18 Thread Vincent Rivière
On 18/05/2012 21:26, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Except I’m wondering if FreeMiNT (userspace) will get shared libraries some day. It would help Debian GNU/MiNT ☺ On FreeMiNT, there is shared library support through the SLB mechanism (and also LDG, another one). Both are very few used. I'm not sure

looking good (was Re: gcj cannot find ecj any more, on m68k)

2012-05-18 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Dixi quod… >>I’ll do that now: I’ve applied all our latest m68k patches >>to the gcj-4.6 source tree and will rebuild that (takes about >>3-4 days on my fastest VMs) and upload that to unreleased, >>then binNMU ecj against that (it was previously built by >>gcj-4.4). > >This appears to have fixed

Re: Has anyone successfully bootstrapped gcc-4.6.3 on m68k?

2012-05-18 Thread Finn Thain
On Fri, 18 May 2012, Vincent Rivi?re wrote: > On 18/05/2012 21:26, Thorsten Glaser wrote: ... > > That would need to be addressed during porting, sure. We basically > > need a userspace CPU switch between: - 68020+ or CF, no distinguishing > > needed (generic mode) > > Henk Robbers did that

Re: Has anyone successfully bootstrapped gcc-4.6.3 on m68k?

2012-05-18 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Finn Thain dixit: >Has anyone benchmarked those binaries (running on the hybrid platform) >against native 68020 and Coldfire binaries (running on their respective >native platforms)? Since I’ve seen an strace and been explained what SYS_333 is I believe benchmarks of modern-eglibc m68k are beyo

Re: Has anyone successfully bootstrapped gcc-4.6.3 on m68k?

2012-05-18 Thread Finn Thain
On Sat, 19 May 2012, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Finn Thain dixit: > > >Has anyone benchmarked those binaries (running on the hybrid platform) > >against native 68020 and Coldfire binaries (running on their respective > >native platforms)? > > Since I?ve seen an strace and been explained what SY