On 2012-05-17, at 11:47 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote:

> Vaugha Brewchuk dixit:
> 
>> The biggest challenge on the NeXT is that the libraries are approx. 20
>> years old. What is there of POSIX, is very broken, and many of the
>> standard c library functions are completely obsolete. So even once a
>> compile is built and works well, many tests tend to fail.
> 
> Well, as long as you’re not on OpenStep 4.2 (then you’d better give
> up ☺) it can’t be too bad… RT recently got mksh to build and pass
> its testuite (fully!) on NS3.3 with gcc 2.5.8 ;-)

I actually have OPENSTEP 4.2 as well, but I removed it from the m68k machine 
and replaced it by NEXTSTEP 3.3.  I am a bit of a purist.  I have OPENSTEP 
running on a dedicated Pentium 4 machine however.  I was also thinking of 
putting OPENSTEP back on another m68k NeXT since it introduces support for 
shared libraries, etc.  It does remove POSIX support, but this is really not a 
big deal since POSIX is quite broken on NS3.3.

> Building mksh and running its testsuite _is_ a good compiler and
> libc test anyway. I’ve suggested the GCC people do that several
> times already… (when you do, make sure to try CVS HEAD)

Interesting, I will definitely look into this.  I have been using bash, but I 
have also been experiencing really bizarre issues with configure scripts that I 
cannot trace to the root cause - some of the files generated by config.status 
randomly get null characters inserted into them which then breaks the tools 
that process them, such as gawk or gcc.

> bye,
> //mirabilos
> -- 
> FWIW, I'm quite impressed with mksh interactively. I thought it was much
> *much* more bare bones. But it turns out it beats the living hell out of
> ksh93 in that respect. I'd even consider it for my daily use if I hadn't
> wasted half my life on my zsh setup. :-) -- Frank Terbeck in #!/bin/mksh


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