Re: Fwd: Macintosh Quadra 950 Not Booting

2015-08-08 Thread Finn Thain
On Sat, 8 Aug 2015, Greg Andrzejewski wrote: > On 8/8/15, Finn Thain wrote: > > > > I agree. And that reminds me: the Quadra 900 and 950 have an SCC IOP, > > like the Mac IIfx. That means you must tell MacOS to switch the serial > > ports to IOP-bypass ("compatible") mode. Otherwise the serial

Re: Bug#794964: gettext: must redo libstdc++ ABI transition because not done right

2015-08-08 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Santiago Vila dixit: >The library was included in gettext-base but it was splitted to its >own package in version 0.18.1.1-6 and a compatibility dependency was >added. Ah. >We could drop this dependency for stretch, yes, but even in such case OK. >I don't have an answer for that, but for very

Re: Bug#794964: gettext: must redo libstdc++ ABI transition because not done right

2015-08-08 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 10:21:23PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Santiago Vila dixit: > > >In the meantime there is nothing to fix because there is not a *single* > >package in debian linked against this library. > > … wait, what? Why is the package then installed on all systems, even > in the

Re: Bug#794964: gettext: must redo libstdc++ ABI transition because not done right

2015-08-08 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 09:45:33PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > I would like to hear from either of you two how we can fixup the > situation for m68k in the meantime. In the meantime there is nothing to fix because there is not a *single* package in debian linked against this library. This is

Re: Bug#794964: gettext: must redo libstdc++ ABI transition because not done right

2015-08-08 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 09:45:33PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > including ports that don’t yet exist. Hmm. I don't think we should really worry about that case. Ports that do not even exist yet will definitely need a working gcc-5 if they ever expect to be released architectures some day. So

Re: Bug#794964: gettext: must redo libstdc++ ABI transition because not done right

2015-08-08 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Santiago Vila dixit: >In the meantime there is nothing to fix because there is not a *single* >package in debian linked against this library. Ah, okay then. Then I agree with the severity downgrade, too. (Still… building GCC takes about a week, so we could not have been earlier. Plus it’s about

Re: Bug#794964: gettext: must redo libstdc++ ABI transition because not done right

2015-08-08 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Santiago Vila dixit: >In the meantime there is nothing to fix because there is not a *single* >package in debian linked against this library. … wait, what? Why is the package then installed on all systems, even in the supposedly clean and minimal buildd chroot? bye, //mirabilos -- >> Why don't

Re: Bug#794964: gettext: must redo libstdc++ ABI transition because not done right

2015-08-08 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Santiago Vila dixit: >Ports that do not even exist yet will definitely need a working gcc-5 >if they ever expect to be released architectures some day. > >So the natural thing to do (which I think it is what we have always done, >but I may be wrong) is to use unstable as their starting point, not

Re: Bug#794964: gettext: must redo libstdc++ ABI transition because not done right

2015-08-08 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Matthias Klose dixit: >the package maintainers. Halt the buildds and re-enable them once you have >updated your buildds. Erm. This is so wrong on several counts. • What builds gcc-5 if not the buildds? • There *will* be people later who build packages for other, e.g. new (think arm64) archite

Re: Fwd: Macintosh Quadra 950 Not Booting

2015-08-08 Thread Greg Andrzejewski
On 8/8/15, Finn Thain wrote: > > I agree. And that reminds me: the Quadra 900 and 950 have an SCC IOP, like > the Mac IIfx. That means you must tell MacOS to switch the serial ports to > IOP-bypass ("compatible") mode. Otherwise the serial port won't work. (I > don't know whether this applies to E

Bug#794964: gettext: must redo libstdc++ ABI transition because not done right

2015-08-08 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Source: gettext Version: 0.19.5.1-1 Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable I just noticed we already have libasprintf0v5 in Debian/m68k unstable. This cannot be, because we haven’t started the GCC 5 transition yet (I know because src:gcc-defaults is currently building on one of my

Re: Macintosh Quadra 950 Not Booting

2015-08-08 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Geert Uytterhoeven dixit: >> someone wants, I attached the latest (4.1.3-1 ABI 4.1.0-1). > >Doesn't look that bad. Mainly missing HP9000/300 and /400, and Sun-3x support >(compared to mine, i.e. expanded from arch/m68k/configs/multi_defconfig) OK, good to know. If you want to have individual opt

Re: Macintosh Quadra 950 Not Booting

2015-08-08 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: >>This looks like a Debian ports kernel so it should have the right config. > > Please only say such things when you have verified them ;-) > I think nobody looked at our kernel config for ages. But if IIRC, I did last February... > someone

Re: Macintosh Quadra 950 Not Booting

2015-08-08 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Finn Thain dixit: >This looks like a Debian ports kernel so it should have the right config. Please only say such things when you have verified them ;-) I think nobody looked at our kernel config for ages. But if someone wants, I attached the latest (4.1.3-1 ABI 4.1.0-1). bye, //mirabilos -- 08