Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

2012-10-26 Thread Richard Darst
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 05:17:07PM +0200, Michele Cane wrote: > * Optic fibre investment (100k CHF). Thinking about this... part of the reason it costs so much to us is to recover this investment. If we could have a workable, but not super-fast, net connection, and 95 kCHF cheaper, we would do i

Re: [Debconf-team] How many Swiss sponsors are expected?

2012-10-26 Thread Richard Darst
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 02:38:21AM -0400, Richard Darst wrote: > So, what I think we should think about is "how much is expected from > Swiss-companies"? Here are some thought questions to get this > started. None of these have known answers, all that I am looking for > is gut feelings. >From I

Re: [Debconf-team] Cost reduction / shortening (was Re: not a registration fee, but...)

2012-10-26 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 02:05:59AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > my personal impression of > these things is that we're mostly preaching to the converted. +1 (very well said) Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de ___ Debconf-team mai

Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

2012-10-26 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Hi Michele Thanks for talking to them again. I have a few questions though. I would really very much like to do DebConf at Le Camp because I still think it's the ideal location. Michele Cane writes: > Hi all, > > We just came back from the meeting with Mr. Pianaro and below you can > find the

Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

2012-10-26 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Richard Darst writes: > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 05:17:07PM +0200, Michele Cane wrote: > >> * Optic fibre investment (100k CHF). > > Thinking about this... part of the reason it costs so much to us is to > recover this investment. If we could have a workable, but not > super-fast, net connection,

Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

2012-10-26 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 26/10/12 09:53, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > > >> Cheers, >> Michele and Luca >> >> === >> = Meeting Le Camp 20121025 (heiserhorn and gismo) = >> >> == General discussion == >> * They likes the project. >> * They do not like the idea of other venu

Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

2012-10-26 Thread Michele Cane
Hi Gaudenz, > > > > Please note that Le Camp is waiting for an answer on Monday 29th. > > What happens if we don't sign by Monday? Is there room to restart the > negotiations (eg. for a shorter DebConf) or are they just no longer > interested in this case. From what I understood (please Luca conf

Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

2012-10-26 Thread Michele Cane
Hi, On Thu, 2012-10-25 at 21:28 +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 05:17:07PM +0200, Michele Cane wrote: > > > > Conditions Générales: > > http://www.lecamp.ch/pdf/conditions.pdf > > > > Small question about the point 7: > > 7. Repas > Déjeuner : 8 h. ; Dîner 12 h. ; Souper :

[Debconf-team] Sportferienressort Fiesch

2012-10-26 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Hi I just had a phone call with "Sportferienressort Fiesch"[1]. They are interested to host us. The still have several weeks free during Juli to October 2013. As this is a lot bigger than Le Camp we would not rent the whole resort but one or more buildings there. They suggest building "Pavillon 5

Re: [Debconf-team] Travel sponsorship proposal

2012-10-26 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 07:34:51PM -0400, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: > > I'd propose that we have a bigger amount of raters for travel $ allocation. > And > people from the core teams (orga, travel sponsorship etc) would just provide > the guidelines for them, but not join the raters' team. If w

Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

2012-10-26 Thread Michele Cane
On Thu, 2012-10-25 at 19:13 +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > I don't want to get into a discussion about all the details, I just > want to query the possibilities for them to assist in finding other > local sponsors, as it is mentioned below. Did they give examples of > contacts they have in the ca

Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

2012-10-26 Thread Michele Cane
Hi, On Thu, 2012-10-25 at 17:44 +0100, Moray Allan wrote: > On 2012-10-25 16:17, Michele Cane wrote: > > We just came back from the meeting with Mr. Pianaro and below you can > > find the minutes also available at: > > http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Meetings/20121025 > > Thanks for your w

Re: [Debconf-team] [legal] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

2012-10-26 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 26/10/12 10:37, Michele Cane wrote: > >> - What happens if we miss that deadline? >> > As I wrote to answer gaudenz, they consider the pre reservation mail > sent by Luca after winning the bid legally binding and the do not > exclude to take legal action. > > If there is any prospect of

Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

2012-10-26 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:28:29 +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 05:17:07PM +0200, Michele Cane wrote: >> >> Conditions Générales: >> http://www.lecamp.ch/pdf/conditions.pdf >> > > Small question about the point 7: > > 7. Repas > Déjeuner : 8 h. ; Dîner 12 h. ; Souper

Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

2012-10-26 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 19:13:22 +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > I don't want to get into a discussion about all the details, I just > want to query the possibilities for them to assist in finding other > local sponsors, as it is mentioned below. Did they give examples of > contacts they have

Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

2012-10-26 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
On 26.10.2012 10:27, Michele Cane wrote: Hi Gaudenz, Please note that Le Camp is waiting for an answer on Monday 29th. What happens if we don't sign by Monday? Is there room to restart the negotiations (eg. for a shorter DebConf) or are they just no longer interested in this case. From wha

Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 cost reduction / additional income idea 4 - accomodation

2012-10-26 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
On 25.10.2012 18:41, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Le jeudi, 25 octobre 2012 00.18:12, Gaudenz Steinlin a écrit : *** No / only partly sponsored accomodation *** I think something like inflating the real "cost overheads for good beds" and billing them to attendees might be a good way to rise "so

Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

2012-10-26 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:53:34 +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Michele Cane writes: >> We just came back from the meeting with Mr. Pianaro and below you can >> find the minutes also available at: >> http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Meetings/20121025 >> >> Please do not start a new

Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

2012-10-26 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:05:36 +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > On 26/10/12 09:53, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: >>> === >>> = Meeting Le Camp 20121025 (heiserhorn and gismo) = >>> >>> == General discussion == >>> * They likes the project. >>> * They

Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

2012-10-26 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:00:25 +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Richard Darst writes: > >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 05:17:07PM +0200, Michele Cane wrote: >> >>> * Optic fibre investment (100k CHF). >> >> Thinking about this... part of the reason it costs so much to us is to >> recover this

Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

2012-10-26 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le vendredi, 26 octobre 2012 11.22:11, Giacomo Catenazzi a écrit : > If this is true, for me Le Camp is a big NO NO. If they menace legal > action now, I can expect worse things later. I think some empathy is needed here though: we're discussing going to LeCamp with them since a year now and we k

Re: [Debconf-team] Sponsorship IRC meeting time

2012-10-26 Thread aw
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:21:37AM +, debconf-team-requ...@lists.debconf.org wrote: > From: Raphael Walther > To: ML DebConf-team > Cc: debconf-sponsors-t...@lists.debconf.org > Subject: Re: [Debconf-team] Sponsorship IRC meeting time > Message-ID: <1351099610.3511.15.camel@elefanto> > Conte

Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

2012-10-26 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:22:11AM +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: >On 26.10.2012 10:27, Michele Cane wrote: >>Hi Gaudenz, Please note that Le Camp is waiting for an answer on Monday 29th. >>> >>>What happens if we don't sign by Monday? Is there room to restart the >>>negotiations (eg. for

Re: [Debconf-team] Cost reduction / shortening (was Re: not a registration fee, but...)

2012-10-26 Thread Allison Randal
I asked the Perl user group leader in Zurich about hacker spaces (for possible alternatives for DebCamp) and he suggested: -- comes to mind which is frequented regularly by the Linux User Group Switzerland (LUGS). There are some photos of a meeting:

Re: [Debconf-team] Sponsorship IRC meeting time

2012-10-26 Thread Raphaël Walther
Hello Arne, On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 01:09:36PM +0200, a...@linux.de wrote: > > I have chosen Saturday 27th October 2012 15:00 UTC+2 for 90 > > minutes. > > > > (it means Saturday 27th October 2012 9:00 UTC-4) > > Sorry, I am not available at this date though I would be quite > interested in > hel

Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

2012-10-26 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 26/10/12 14:04, Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:22:11AM +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: >> On 26.10.2012 10:27, Michele Cane wrote: >>> Hi Gaudenz, > > Please note that Le Camp is waiting for an answer on Monday 29th. What happens if we don't sign by Monday?

Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012

2012-10-26 Thread Holger Levsen
On Freitag, 26. Oktober 2012, Michele Cane wrote: > > - Are they currently expecting us to say "yes" and sign by Monday 29 > > October? > > The expected us to sign in September. > > As I wrote to answer gaudenz, they consider the pre reservation mail > sent by Luca after winning the bid legally b

[Debconf-team] Le Camp, Vaumarcus (NE), Suisse : Saturday Night Squashing Party !

2012-10-26 Thread Michael Germini
Hello, If you need support or just want to meet ! Saturday 27 Dinner - Cheese Raclette & Swiss beer Sunday 28 - meal MIDI - Sausage and rice If you want to come to Le Camp, Vaumarcus (NE), Suisse ? Feel free to take some product land ! Thank Michael Open events platform: http://www.debian.