Re: [Debconf-team] not a registration fee, but...

2012-10-25 Thread Moray Allan
On 2012-10-25 00:55, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Just FWIW (and not as a explicit vote, just as an opinion): We have the tradition to have a two week long DebConf+DebCamp. I would prefer having a shorter period (say, 3 days of DebCamp and 4 days of DebConf, no DebianDay nor daytrip) if we need to cut on

Re: [Debconf-team] not a registration fee, but...

2012-10-24 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Daniel Pocock dijo [Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:45:37AM +0200]: > > I also do not agree to the principle Daniel suggested to spread the > > gathering of sponsors to shoulders. Our > > primary goal is to develop Debian (currently fixing RC bugs) and not to > > keep people busy to ask around for money.

Re: [Debconf-team] not a registration fee, but...

2012-10-23 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:45:37AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > Those are only private travel costs that people are claiming, it is good > that people can obtain funds for that, but it doesn't help the DebConf > budget itself. At least it does not drain extra traveling costs from DebConf budget.

Re: [Debconf-team] not a registration fee, but...

2012-10-23 Thread Richard Darst
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 03:39:38PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > However, there is some benefit to advertising such a fee, and then > `sponsoring' individuals by waiving the fee for them. > > The main benefit is that DebConf can ask people to `find their own > sponsor' before asking DebConf to `s

Re: [Debconf-team] not a registration fee, but...

2012-10-23 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 23/10/12 10:04, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 09:06:51PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > >> On 22/10/12 20:45, Gunnar Wolf wrote: >> >>> My issue with a registration fee is on principle. We organize a >>> DebConf because it gives value to Debian. Important work is

Re: [Debconf-team] not a registration fee, but...

2012-10-23 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 09:06:51PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > On 22/10/12 20:45, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > > > My issue with a registration fee is on principle. We organize a > > DebConf because it gives value to Debian. Important work is done > > there. Most attendees do pay a sensible cos

Re: [Debconf-team] not a registration fee, but...

2012-10-22 Thread Daniel Pocock
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 22/10/12 20:45, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Daniel Pocock dijo [Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 03:39:38PM +0200]: >> I understand that there is not widespread support for the >> registration fee concept at face value (...) The main benefit is >> that DebConf can

Re: [Debconf-team] not a registration fee, but...

2012-10-22 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Daniel Pocock dijo [Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 03:39:38PM +0200]: > I understand that there is not widespread support for the registration > fee concept at face value > (...) > The main benefit is that DebConf can ask people to `find their own > sponsor' before asking DebConf to `sponsor' them. > (...) >

[Debconf-team] not a registration fee, but...

2012-10-22 Thread Daniel Pocock
I understand that there is not widespread support for the registration fee concept at face value However, there is some benefit to advertising such a fee, and then `sponsoring' individuals by waiving the fee for them. The main benefit is that DebConf can ask people to `find their own sponsor' b