Re: [Debconf-team] WRL (debit card) phone chat

2010-07-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Donnerstag, 8. Juli 2010, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > It would avoid the legal/tax issues, but it still wouldn't solve the > DebConf fiscal responsibility issue of "don't waste DebConf's/Debian's > money on inappropriate expenses." I dont understand. Why would "handed $amount of cash out to

Re: [Debconf-team] WRL (debit card) phone chat

2010-07-09 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 10:52:07PM -0400, Richard Darst wrote: > On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 04:19:31PM -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > > The $500 is more appropriately not included in the cost evaluation; > > it's a one time fee that SPI would be paying from general funds (NOT > > Debian and also NOT

Re: [Debconf-team] WRL (debit card) phone chat

2010-07-08 Thread Richard Darst
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 04:19:31PM -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > The $500 is more appropriately not included in the cost evaluation; it's a one > time fee that SPI would be paying from general funds (NOT Debian and also NOT > DebConf10), and it will enable SPI to offer this kind of debit card se

Re: [Debconf-team] WRL (debit card) phone chat

2010-07-08 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 11:16:00PM +0200, Moray Allan wrote: > So using cash that hasn't come through SPI would be another solution? It would avoid the legal/tax issues, but it still wouldn't solve the DebConf fiscal responsibility issue of "don't waste DebConf's/Debian's money on inappropriate ex

Re: [Debconf-team] WRL (debit card) phone chat

2010-07-08 Thread Moray Allan
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 06:22:34PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > Hmmm. I'm a little worried by the costs here, I must be honest. What > > precisely do we gain from using these cards? > > We gain the ability to give a cash equivalent tha

Re: [Debconf-team] WRL (debit card) phone chat

2010-07-08 Thread Philip Hands
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 16:47:21 -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 04:29:55PM -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 03:26:39AM -0400, Richard Darst wrote: > > > Could you add this plan to > > > http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf10/FoodArrivalWeekend > > > a

Re: [Debconf-team] WRL (debit card) phone chat

2010-07-08 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 04:29:55PM -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 03:26:39AM -0400, Richard Darst wrote: > > Could you add this plan to > > http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf10/FoodArrivalWeekend > > and then we will be able to compare between the different options > >

Re: [Debconf-team] WRL (debit card) phone chat

2010-07-08 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 03:26:39AM -0400, Richard Darst wrote: > Could you add this plan to > http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf10/FoodArrivalWeekend > and then we will be able to compare between the different options > well? Yes, will do now. - Jimmy Kaplowitz ji...@debconf.org _

Re: [Debconf-team] WRL (debit card) phone chat

2010-07-08 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 10:55:59PM -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > Overall quite a positive chat. He said he'd get back to me by > close-of-business today (Wednesday); since he didn't, I'll follow up > tomorrow. (<-- ACTION ITEM) Within the last couple of hours I called again; this time their phon

Re: [Debconf-team] WRL (debit card) phone chat

2010-07-08 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 06:22:34PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Hmmm. I'm a little worried by the costs here, I must be honest. What > precisely do we gain from using these cards? We gain the ability to give a cash equivalent that won't get SPI into legal or tax trouble. As I said in a different

Re: [Debconf-team] WRL (debit card) phone chat

2010-07-08 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 10:55:59PM -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: >Hi, > >I spoke with a friendly corporate accounts rep Ron at WRL on Tuesday, as >planned, to discuss how they could meet our requirements. > >Here are the important takeaways from the chat (except for one, see below): Hmmm. I'm a li

Re: [Debconf-team] WRL (debit card) phone chat

2010-07-08 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
Hi Blars, On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 08:21:05PM -0700, Blars Blarson wrote: > If we are not able to recover unused funds on the cards, is there any > reason to make the active period short or restrict how the card can be > used? We've already spent the money, it either goes to the person > with the

Re: [Debconf-team] WRL (debit card) phone chat

2010-07-08 Thread Richard Darst
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 10:55:59PM -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > Hi, > > I spoke with a friendly corporate accounts rep Ron at WRL on Tuesday, as > planned, to discuss how they could meet our requirements. Could you add this plan to http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf10/FoodArrivalWeekend an

Re: [Debconf-team] WRL (debit card) phone chat

2010-07-08 Thread Philip Hands
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 22:55:59 -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > In retrospect I realize I meant $75/card; that's 6 meals averaging > $12.50 each. Given that that's what "Sponsored Food" means, and there seems to be no down-side as far as "you won't be able to eat with the crowd" or "you won't get th

Re: [Debconf-team] WRL (debit card) phone chat

2010-07-08 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 06:36:31AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > Given that that's what "Sponsored Food" means, and there seems to be no > down-side as far as "you won't be able to eat with the crowd" or "you > won't get the negotiated discount", I've just opted out of sponsored > food. Important c

Re: [Debconf-team] WRL (debit card) phone chat

2010-07-08 Thread Philip Hands
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 01:58:23 -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 06:36:31AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > > Given that that's what "Sponsored Food" means, and there seems to be no > > down-side as far as "you won't be able to eat with the crowd" or "you > > won't get the negotiat

Re: [Debconf-team] WRL (debit card) phone chat

2010-07-08 Thread Blars Blarson
If we are not able to recover unused funds on the cards, is there any reason to make the active period short or restrict how the card can be used? We've already spent the money, it either goes to the person with the card or the bank. If the cards arn't personalized, can anyone use them? We could

[Debconf-team] WRL (debit card) phone chat

2010-07-07 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
Hi, I spoke with a friendly corporate accounts rep Ron at WRL on Tuesday, as planned, to discuss how they could meet our requirements. Here are the important takeaways from the chat (except for one, see below): Pricing === * Per-order cost: $2.95 per card plus $21.95 shipping * Under the pro