Re: [Debconf-team] Q for Cape Town bid: attendees safety outside the venue

2014-12-25 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 09:26:08AM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Moray Allan dijo [Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 05:34:40PM +0100]: > > Still, we haven't completely avoided problems; I remember a few > > people having bad experiences in Managua, for example, mostly when > > they were obviously carrying expens

Re: [Debconf-team] Q for Cape Town bid: attendees safety outside the venue

2014-12-24 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Moray Allan dijo [Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 05:34:40PM +0100]: > Still, we haven't completely avoided problems; I remember a few > people having bad experiences in Managua, for example, mostly when > they were obviously carrying expensive phones or laptops as is > rather normal for DebConf attendees (wh

Re: [Debconf-team] Q for Cape Town bid: attendees safety outside the venue

2014-12-23 Thread Moray Allan
On 2014-12-19 22:43, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Right, there have been many times we have asked people to "be aware". As you say, we had no major issues in the locations you listed. However, there was also a large degree of self-selection of attendees for some of them, with some people who attended

Re: [Debconf-team] Q for Cape Town bid: attendees safety outside the venue

2014-12-21 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi David (note: I'm not on debconf-team, it seems to be a private list) On 19/12/2014 14:02, Stefano Rivera wrote: > Hi David (2014.12.19_11:46:23_+0200) >> Can someone who was in Managua (Jonathan?) compare the security >> situation with Managua? I found everyone I talked to in Managua friendly

Re: [Debconf-team] Q for Cape Town bid: attendees safety outside the venue

2014-12-20 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
Hi, On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:41:03AM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: > On 19/12/2014 10:15, Stefano Rivera wrote: > > We wouldn't need to do that. > > > > We just need to remind people to be aware that they are in a country > > with a lot of crime. They'll almost certainly be fine, anywhere in th

Re: [Debconf-team] Q for Cape Town bid: attendees safety outside the venue

2014-12-19 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Stefano Rivera dijo [Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 02:02:37PM +0200]: > I was in Managua, too. I felt pretty safe in Managua, just as I do in > Cape Town. > > I didn't explore that much, beyond the hotel, conference venues, and the > local mall. I was just too busy. > > There's pretty much nowhere I won't

Re: [Debconf-team] Q for Cape Town bid: attendees safety outside the venue

2014-12-19 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi David (2014.12.19_11:46:23_+0200) > Can someone who was in Managua (Jonathan?) compare the security > situation with Managua? I found everyone I talked to in Managua friendly > and helpful, but there was a great deal of warnings about walking alone > around campus that made me a bit nervous. I

Re: [Debconf-team] Q for Cape Town bid: attendees safety outside the venue

2014-12-19 Thread David Bremner
Jonathan Carter writes: > On 19/12/2014 10:15, Stefano Rivera wrote: >> We wouldn't need to do that. >> >> We just need to remind people to be aware that they are in a country >> with a lot of crime. They'll almost certainly be fine, anywhere in the >> city. > > It's pretty much the same as walk

Re: [Debconf-team] Q for Cape Town bid: attendees safety outside the venue

2014-12-19 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 19/12/2014 10:15, Stefano Rivera wrote: > We wouldn't need to do that. > > We just need to remind people to be aware that they are in a country > with a lot of crime. They'll almost certainly be fine, anywhere in the > city. It's pretty much the same as walking around in any big city. If you'r

Re: [Debconf-team] Q for Cape Town bid: attendees safety outside the venue

2014-12-19 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Martín (2014.12.19_05:29:36_+0200) > I get the impression from what you say that we will need to be pretty > sheltered to be safe. Not at all. If you want to *guarantee* safety, you should offer shelter. If people are a little bit careful, they can go off on their own, and have a lot of fun.

Re: [Debconf-team] Q for Cape Town bid: attendees safety outside the venue

2014-12-18 Thread Martín Ferrari
Hi Stefano, On 18/12/14 16:46, Stefano Rivera wrote: > The campus is patrolled by security guards, and has monitored CCTV > covering most public areas. Paths through middle campus are lit at > night, and there are brightly lit panic button pillars along the more > remote paths. [..] > We'd pro

Re: [Debconf-team] Q for Cape Town bid: attendees safety outside the venue

2014-12-18 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Lucas (2014.12.17_19:48:27_+0200) > However, one thing that worries me a bit in the context of DebConf is > the safety of attendees when outside the venue (e.g. walking between the > venue and accomodation). My understanding from back then is that it was > absolutely not recommended to walk alon

[Debconf-team] Q for Cape Town bid: attendees safety outside the venue

2014-12-17 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, I was in Cape Town in May 2010 for a conference. I very much enjoyed it, and I would love to return there. However, one thing that worries me a bit in the context of DebConf is the safety of attendees when outside the venue (e.g. walking between the venue and accomodation). My understanding f