Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food

2006-03-10 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Andreas Schuldei dijo [Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 11:49:29AM +0100]: > i would suggest to outsource that work to the participants. > > we should try to get pre-perforated paper in the proper format > (if it costs a bit, ok, it is worth the saved work), and > personalize and colorcode the single tickets.

Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food

2006-03-10 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Friday 10 March 2006 11:49, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > i would suggest to outsource that work to the participants. I think this, "outsourcing to the participants" is very much the wrong attitude. It's not (or it shouldn't be), us and them. regards, Holger pgpzQCDuOBEwR.pgp De

Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food

2006-03-10 Thread Andreas Schuldei
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 11:56:35PM -0500, Rudy Godoy wrote: > El d?a 28/02/2006 a 14:19 Gunnar Wolf escribi?... > > > > Yes, I also liked a lot how that system worked - Now, the down side is > > the logistical cost: First, we must make sure to include the proper > > tickets (with the proper dates

Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food

2006-03-09 Thread Rudy Godoy
El d�a 28/02/2006 a 14:19 Gunnar Wolf escribi�... > Yes, I also liked a lot how that system worked - Now, the down side is > the logistical cost: First, we must make sure to include the proper > tickets (with the proper dates) in the bags of each person. Second, > whoever checks them must be aske

Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food

2006-03-02 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi! * Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060302 13:09]: > > That's for sure. Seeing Ganneff pretending to be 1.68m high would be > > worth to loose one meal :) > Wait - Do I have to get height/weight/photo information in the > nametags? :-O No, I was just joking. Asking for pictures is useless si

Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food

2006-03-02 Thread Meike Reichle
Hi > Wait - Do I have to get height/weight/photo information in the > nametags? :-O > > Seriously though... We could request for a photo and add it, but I > don't think that'd make much sense... Specially given that nametags > are quite small and I prefer the name to be readable than to be > redun

Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food

2006-03-02 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Alexander Schmehl dijo [Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 10:56:38AM +0100]: > > > (Maybe Ganneff who is always hungry... but didn't someone told us, the > > > portions there are even big enough for him?) > > Well, YOU'll go get me some food if he rips off my badge and gets extra > > serving pretending he was m

Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food

2006-03-02 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi! * Meike Reichle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060302 09:31]: > > (Maybe Ganneff who is always hungry... but didn't someone told us, the > > portions there are even big enough for him?) > Well, YOU'll go get me some food if he rips off my badge and gets extra > serving pretending he was me ;) That's f

Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food

2006-03-02 Thread Meike Reichle
Hi all [Alexander Schmehl] > Uhm... nearly everyone will have those tickets, so whome would you like > to invite? Alright, I yield to the majority. Visual authentication it is :) > (Maybe Ganneff who is always hungry... but didn't someone told us, the > portions there are even big enough for him

Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food

2006-03-01 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi! * Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060228 12:37]: > What do you think? Do you oppose the simple trust model? I would prefer the simple trust model without food tickets; mainly because food tickets always end up not near to me, when I need them - I always forget them (and I think I'm not the

Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food

2006-03-01 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi! * Meike Reichle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060228 14:39]: > My idea was the following: If we have n food tickets we'll have > to pay for n meals. However, it does not matter *who* uses a food ticket. > So if I skiped a meal and thus have an extra ticket, I can give it to > someone else, so (s)he us

Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food

2006-02-28 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Martin Wuertele dijo [Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 02:37:33PM +0100]: > > Yes, but we must discourage this - The restaurant works with some > > margin for adjustement, of course... But if we invite 10% extra people > > (think DebianDay), we will end up with too little food to serve - > > And that's bad as

Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food

2006-02-28 Thread Martin Wuertele
Hi Gunnar! * Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-02-28 14:30]: > Yes, but we must discourage this - The restaurant works with some > margin for adjustement, of course... But if we invite 10% extra people > (think DebianDay), we will end up with too little food to serve - > And that's bad as wel

Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food

2006-02-28 Thread Safir Secerovic
This sound good and simple to me (the visual authentication). Regards, Safir On Tuesday 28 February 2006 12:37, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > This weekend we talked some points over with the people at Oaxtepec - > we will report them over several short mails :) > > Regarding the restaurant: They told me

Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food

2006-02-28 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Tuesday 28 February 2006 12:37, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > This weekend we talked some points over with the people at Oaxtepec - > we will report them over several short mails :) Thanks! [...] > What do you think? Do you oppose the simple trust model? I like it. And looking at the possible dam

Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food

2006-02-28 Thread Meike Reichle
Hi > Meike Reichle dijo [Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 02:27:25PM +0100]: >> 3) Pure visual authentication: Debianers are a social crowd. I would >> assume there would be at least some (well-meant) abuse. Providing >> tickets >> would still allow people to swap meals or invite others but hopefully >> the >

Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food

2006-02-28 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Meike Reichle dijo [Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 02:27:25PM +0100]: > 3) Pure visual authentication: Debianers are a social crowd. I would > assume there would be at least some (well-meant) abuse. Providing tickets > would still allow people to swap meals or invite others but hopefully the > overall number

Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food

2006-02-28 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Nadezhda asked me to post some more information in this regard we were talking with them, even if I tought it was somewhat obvious - Thanks :) First of all, if we were to decide for the barcode reader, we _still_ have to provide a person that goes to each of the tables, scans the barcodes and OK's

Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food

2006-02-28 Thread Meike Reichle
Hi Gunnar et al I would prefer the meal ticket alternative, for the following reasons: 1) The barcode scanners are cool in theory but in practice they seem to be a hassle and also pretty cost intensive. Also, to make sure things work out even if the scanner system f***s up we'd most likely have t

[Debconf-team] Authentication for food

2006-02-28 Thread Gunnar Wolf
This weekend we talked some points over with the people at Oaxtepec - we will report them over several short mails :) Regarding the restaurant: They told me the preferred way with large groups is not to use barcode scanners, not even to use tickets, but to use visual authentication - the waiters