On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 11:12:47AM +, Philip Hands wrote:
> Ana Guerrero writes:
> > In le Camp, the possibilities of affordable hotel are *far* away and you
> > need
> > a car, le Camp is served by public transportation but it is very limiting.
> > (Somebody added in the wiki the distances
On 2012-11-26 19:38, Philip Hands wrote:
(FYI I'd assumed that the sleeping-mat pictures were just of the room
with unmade beds, so apparently it's not necessarily obvious just
because there's no bedding in the photos)
(Indeed. I was surprised to learn the numbers here, and even someone
who h
On 2012-12-02 19:22, Holger Levsen wrote:
in Switzerland and yet three times we agreed to hold it in Le Camp,
because
a.) it will be good and b.) other options have other (severe)
downsides.
I don't think that's an accurate summary of the sequence of events.
The recent multiple times when we
zack requested that we arrange to pay for daily cleaning and
dishwashing at Le Camp, rather than attempting to get Debian
contributors to do this.
Do we have any numbers on this? Can someone at least quote a
commercial Swiss price for contract cleaning?
I would prefer to know prices for thi
On 2012-12-03 23:43, Moray Allan wrote:
@@ -55,7 +56,7 @@
- DebConf13 will do the daily cleaning of the spaces, Le Camp will
provide the necessary material.
Oops, some of the context lines look a bit confusing where they start
with hyphens representing dashes/bullet points. This line remain
I have added an updated translation of the Le Camp contract to svn, to
reflect the changes negotiated last week -- see
http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debconf-data/dc13/accounting/contracts/Le_Camp/Contrat%20Debconf13%20-%202012-11-29%20-%20translation?view=markup
Here is a diff to show the co
Le dimanche 02 décembre 2012 à 20:22 +0100, Holger Levsen a écrit :
> DebConf13 will be held in Le Camp, Vaumarcus, Switzerland. The DebConf chairs
> atm are preparing a message explaining why we (still ;) think this is a good
> idea.
>
> If you think DebConf is a total desaster and should be d
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 11:44:54AM +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote:
> We also have contributors who are tall, and le Camp beds do not seem suited
> for tall people (more than 190cm), some people might camp, but some others
> prefer a bed. A lot of people can get by 1-2 days, but a full week can be
> a (b
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 01:42:43PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
>
> Especially given the overwhelming impact of the discrimination effects of
> _money_, which is an extremly great factor for any DebConf in Switzerland, I
> think Le Camp is a very good choice. We will be more equal there than in m
Holger Levsen writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Anonymous donation" to Debconf
13"):
> The "anonymous donations" we got offered were rejected (by us)
Why do you use scare quotes ?
> On Samstag, 1. Dezember 2012, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > > http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20121102.150947.08f
On 03/12/12 13:42, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> we are long aware of the issues at Le Camp as we are aware about issues at
> other locations, this is precisly *why* we choose Le Camp, because long
> evaluations considering up and downsides of several options have resulted in
> Le Camp being o
On 03.12.2012 12:43, Ana Guerrero wrote:
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 12:22:24PM +0100, Martin Wuertele wrote:
* Ana Guerrero [2012-12-03 11:43]:
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 09:22:16AM +0100, Martin Wuertele wrote:
I haven't heard that this is the case, what I read on the list is that
there are buil
Hi,
we are long aware of the issues at Le Camp as we are aware about issues at
other locations, this is precisly *why* we choose Le Camp, because long
evaluations considering up and downsides of several options have resulted in
Le Camp being our best option for a great DebConf in Switzerland.
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 11:12:47AM +, Philip Hands wrote:
>
> Have you not met Paul Sladen?
>
?
> As I said long ago, Le Camp (when considered as a DebConf venue) is
> family hostile, and for the same reasons is comfort-loving-corporate
> hostile, and also for those other cases you mention.
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 12:22:24PM +0100, Martin Wuertele wrote:
> * Ana Guerrero [2012-12-03 11:43]:
>
> > On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 09:22:16AM +0100, Martin Wuertele wrote:
>
> I haven't heard that this is the case, what I read on the list is that
> there are buildings specifically for handicape
* Ana Guerrero [2012-12-03 11:43]:
> On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 09:22:16AM +0100, Martin Wuertele wrote:
> >
> > The discrimination part seems to me is a subjective opinion that is not
> > shared by everyone. At least that is the impression I get from the
> > discussions over the last weeks (please
Ana Guerrero writes:
> In le Camp, the possibilities of affordable hotel are *far* away and you need
> a car, le Camp is served by public transportation but it is very limiting.
> (Somebody added in the wiki the distances by bike, but I don't know
> anyone who travels packing a bike in their suit
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 09:22:16AM +0100, Martin Wuertele wrote:
>
> The discrimination part seems to me is a subjective opinion that is not
> shared by everyone. At least that is the impression I get from the
> discussions over the last weeks (please not that I've been following
> debconf-team fo
Hello,
On 02.12.2012 13:58, Mònica Ramírez Arceda wrote:
Hi,
El dg 02 de 12 de 2012 a les 13:00 +0100, en/na Ana Guerrero va
escriure:
However, what I can not understand is the denial to look at other venues
by the localteam.
Although I'm not active in Debconf organization at all, I would li
[please don't CC me, I am subscribed]
* Ana Guerrero [2012-12-02 15:53]:
(..)
> We can have this in other locations that are not le camp. I also like
> things this way. But a debconf that is discriminating people to go
> doesn't seem to be very familyish to me.
The discrimination part seems
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