Re: [Debconf-team] howto deal with debian/debconf money at ffis (and spi)

2011-03-22 Thread Richard Darst
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 12:20:08PM +0800, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I'm looking forward to your further comments, and thanks for the > precious accounting work your doing. > > BTW, I've another comment on the proposal summarized by Holger. What is > the rationale of having several different earm

Re: [Debconf-team] howto deal with debian/debconf money at ffis (and spi)

2011-03-22 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Stefano Zacchiroli dijo [Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:11:58AM +0800]: > Thanks for the offer, but I've already quite some headaches keeping an > eye on the overall Debian accounting/budget "team" :-P Seriously, if you > ask why I "want money back", it means that I've done a very lousy job > thus far in

Re: [Debconf-team] howto deal with debian/debconf money at ffis (and spi)

2011-03-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:49:36PM -0400, Richard Darst wrote: > > Have you considered having rather a sliding DebConf year which is, like, > > a 4 months period with DebConf at its center? Would that be too short in > > your opinion? > > My original proposal was two months after DebConf ended. I

Re: [Debconf-team] howto deal with debian/debconf money at ffis (and spi)

2011-03-22 Thread Richard Darst
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:20:46AM +0800, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Have you considered having rather a sliding DebConf year which is, like, > a 4 months period with DebConf at its center? Would that be too short in > your opinion? My original proposal was two months after DebConf ended. I thi

Re: [Debconf-team] howto deal with debian/debconf money at ffis (and spi)

2011-03-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:22:31AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Montag, 21. März 2011, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > I was only about to advance the same concern that Moray already advanced > > in a follow-up: deadlines. Saying we merge every year will be close to > > useless, if the merge wind

Re: [Debconf-team] howto deal with debian/debconf money at ffis (and spi)

2011-03-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:59:57AM -0400, Richard Darst wrote: > From my experience with DC10, at least two (or several) months was > reasonable for most of the known expenses to clear. It took a while > to get invoices and pay them. Of course, it depends on the logistics > of each conference, so

Re: [Debconf-team] DC11 Sponsorship Team Meeting

2011-03-22 Thread Moray Allan
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Enis Sahinovic wrote: > DC11 local team has decided to postpone this meeting until next week or > early April since we still need to figure out details before presenting them > to everyone. I still don't see why delaying the sponsorship team meeting is helpful.

Re: [Debconf-team] Reminder: DebConf12 decision meeting, Tuesday 22 March

2011-03-22 Thread Moray Allan
Many thanks to both bid teams. And thank you to everyone who participated in the discussion. The meetbot minutes, with links to full logs, are here: http://meetbot.debian.net/debconf-team/2011/debconf-team.2011-03-22-20.00.html http://meetbot.debian.net/dc12-discuss/2011/dc12-discuss.2011-03-22

Re: [Debconf-team] The relationship between DIVA and SPI in terms of sponsorship money

2011-03-22 Thread Richard Darst
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 04:57:34PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Montag, 21. März 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: > > If anyone wants to start of I just made > > http://whiteboard.debian.net/dc11-ngo.wb > > its empty :-D > > I just put it on the agenda of our next dc11 meetings! I just added an out

Re: [Debconf-team] DC11 Sponsorship Team Meeting

2011-03-22 Thread Richard Darst
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:12:55PM +0100, Enis Sahinovic wrote: > Well, hello again :) > > DC11 local team has decided to postpone this meeting until next week or > early April since we still need to figure out details before presenting them > to everyone. What types of details? It seems that mo

Re: [Debconf-team] DC11 Sponsorship Team Meeting

2011-03-22 Thread Enis Sahinovic
Well, hello again :) DC11 local team has decided to postpone this meeting until next week or early April since we still need to figure out details before presenting them to everyone. Thank you for understanding, Enis On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Enis Sahinovic wrote: > Hello again, > > Afte

Re: [Debconf-team] Question for DebConf12 bids: Costs

2011-03-22 Thread Richard Darst
Updated with latest costs from Belo Horizonte. Managua costs are the same. On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 05:28:35PM +, Moray Allan wrote: > A summary of costs from the current bid pages: > > Conference rooms Belo Horizonte: $15,000 total (hotels) or $11000 total (convention center) Managua: $35,

Re: [Debconf-team] Reminder: DebConf12 decision meeting, Tuesday 22 March

2011-03-22 Thread Moray Allan
Bid teams: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Moray Allan wrote: > Just an additional reminder to the DebConf12 bid teams in preparation > for this meeting: > > Please prepare material in advance for these agenda points: Now would be a good time to make sure you have these materials ready, and per

Re: [Debconf-team] Reminder: DebConf12 decision meeting, Tuesday 22 March

2011-03-22 Thread Moray Allan
People planning to attend the DebConf12 venue decision meeting at 20:00 UTC might want to check these first: Overall summary of the DebConf bid process http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/BidProcess Developing more detailed agenda for this evening http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf12/Meetings As well

Re: [Debconf-team] Call for help with DebConf12 decision (was Reminder: DebConf12 decision meeting, Tuesday 22 March)

2011-03-22 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Hi Jeremiah, Jeremiah Foster dijo [Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:59:36AM +0100]: > > As an additional point, the recently delegated DebConf chairs are > > looking for one or two people from outside those currently most > > involved in DebConf organisation to help out if we can't get a > > DebConf12 venu

Re: [Debconf-team] The relationship between DIVA and SPI in terms of sponsorship money

2011-03-22 Thread Holger Levsen
On Montag, 21. März 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: > If anyone wants to start of I just made > http://whiteboard.debian.net/dc11-ngo.wb its empty :-D I just put it on the agenda of our next dc11 meetings! cheers! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. _

Re: [Debconf-team] The relationship between DIVA and SPI in terms of sponsorship money

2011-03-22 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Montag, 21. März 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: > There's no restrictions with what DIVA can > do with the money, unless if it's used to generate profit. ffis e.V. can only spend money to fullfill its mission (which is, to support free software). ffis _cannot_ spend money to support other thin

Re: [Debconf-team] Question for DebConf12 bids: Costs

2011-03-22 Thread Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva
Hi Rogério. Excerpts from Rogério Brito's message of Ter Mar 22 04:46:39 -0300 2011: (...) > On Mar 17 2011, Moray Allan wrote: > > Food > > > > Belo Horizonte: $17 per person per meal (estimate $95,200) > > As USD$17 ~ BRL$35, I think that this is *way* above something realistic. > Perhaps the

Re: [Debconf-team] Reminder: DebConf12 decision meeting, Tuesday 22 March

2011-03-22 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 22. März 2011, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Of course, I agree that if a decision cannot be reasonably reached on > time, it should be defered to be properly reached and not > rushed... However, given the stress that all this preparation imposes > on the bidding teams, I really really hop

Re: [Debconf-team] Question for DebConf12 bids: Costs

2011-03-22 Thread Rogério Brito
Just for the record, On Mar 20 2011, Moray Allan wrote: > As discussed, US$80 per person per night is probably more than we can pay, > unless you find some very generous local sponsorship. If you were told > you could only spend at most US$30 (and preferably less) per person per > night, what wou

Re: [Debconf-team] Question for DebConf12 bids: Costs

2011-03-22 Thread Rogério Brito
Hi there. I am not timely here, and I am also not sure if this mail will reach the mailing list, but I'm trying to give here one comment. On Mar 17 2011, Moray Allan wrote: > Food > > Belo Horizonte: $17 per person per meal (estimate $95,200) As USD$17 ~ BRL$35, I think that this is *way* above

Re: [Debconf-team] DC10 final report almost done, please review

2011-03-22 Thread Richard Darst
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:22:05AM -0300, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: > It's supposed to be all done, except for missing budgeting numbers (which > we're > working on), so it's time to report/commit *any* issue you notice. > > http://tiagovaz.org/archive/FinalReport-DC10-20110322.1.pdf Comments