[Debconf-discuss] Fascinated to see dedicated attendee at Debconf14 with 'Blindness'

2014-09-04 Thread sco1...@gmail.com
Namaste, I am just going through all recorded sessions of Debconf14 & spotted 1 blind person at few sessions including 'Meet_the_Technical_Committee' session. I have attended many technical conferences in person/ virtually & this is the 1st time I see a visually impaired person at technical confer

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Fascinated to see dedicated attendee at Debconf14 with 'Blindness'

2014-09-04 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Namaste, On 04.09.2014 09:10, sco1...@gmail.com wrote: > Namaste, > Unfortunately I don't no his name. If some1 knows him, I am really > interested to know how he manages to summarize various Debian mailing > lists on day to day basis. Which open source interpretation tool he > uses. I am also in

Re: [Debconf-discuss] remote participants with SIP, XMPP and WebRTC?

2014-09-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Daniel Pocock [2014-08-22 10:23 -0700]: > If anybody wants to try any of the Debian-based solutions for remote > participation and if you have trouble with them, please feel free to > contact me. Of course we are interested, and this came up even. Have you considered the implications

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-04 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 12:20 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: > It's also possible that, as a matter of course, we should ensure that the > antiharassment team responds timely in writing to all complaints, even if > there is an out-of-band follow-up. Following up in the same media used for a complaint i

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread alberto fuentes
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:11 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > To be specific about what words I'm talking about, I have seen people use > both "" and "" in a professional HR presentation context with > basically no reaction (although the latter is much less common). Several > speakers used those

Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration

2014-09-04 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: > I would like to ask to remove the "Do not photograph me" checkbox in > Debconf registration form as we do not really have a technology to > implement that. > [...] While we could colour-code badges and lanyards, this is not fool-proof. Dif

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Fascinated to see dedicated attendee at Debconf14 with 'Blindness'

2014-09-04 Thread sco1...@gmail.com
Hello, On 4 September 2014 13:14, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: >there are many "workflows", you can see two of them (braille terminal / >speech "terminal") in > http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2009/debconf9/high/1014_Accessibility_and_Debian.ogv >[This video is from DebConf 9 i

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-04 Thread Ian Jackson
Steve Langasek writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] Code of Conduct violations handling process"): > In the particular incident prompting this thread, [...] I started writing a response to this. But I found that my response, no matter how carefully phrased, read like an attack on the people who dealt

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-04 Thread Ian Jackson
martin f krafft writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] Code of Conduct violations handling process"): > also sprach Patty Langasek [2014-09-03 16:57 -0700]: > > The way this particular Code of Conduct Violation Complaint was > > handled was entirely my fault. > > I don't think there is any point in thin

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread Ian Jackson
alberto fuentes writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity"): > [0] Do not use foul language; besides, some people receive the lists > via packet radio, where swearing is illegal. I doubt anyone is streaming Debconf video over packet radio. My experience was that I and

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] First videos are now online

2014-09-04 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 03, 2014, at 07:14 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: >One of the things I wanted to address post-DebConf14 is to make sure the >event pages in summit.debconf.org include direct links to the video >recordings. Does anybody know when the Saturday 2014-08-30 talks will be posted? I was traveling, bu

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Fascinated to see dedicated attendee at Debconf14 with 'Blindness'

2014-09-04 Thread Bdale Garbee
"sco1...@gmail.com" writes: > Unfortunately I don't no his name. That would be Sam Hartman. http://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/06/24/people-behin-debian-sam-hartman-kerberos-package-maintainer/ Bdale pgpwC7rR1NFnY.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ De

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] First videos are now online

2014-09-04 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Josh Triplett wrote: > Also, should we expect the videos to show up under > http://annex.debconf.org/debconf-share/debconf14/ at some point? *cough* oups *cough* They are in the annex (I just synced another batch which I had added on disk over time). That being

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-team] [Debconf-announce] First videos are now online

2014-09-04 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Carl Karsten wrote: > the good news is the string and summit db key is here: > http://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/C/debian/S/debconf14.json > > "slug": "HPs_OpenStack_Helion_Debian_all_the_way_down", > "conf_url": > "https://summit.debconf.org/debconf14/meeting/13

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-team] [Debconf-announce] First videos are now online

2014-09-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Donnerstag, 4. September 2014, Richard Hartmann wrote: > As I said on IRC a few times, I still think it would make sense to > prefix this ID to all talk names. definitly! > PS: Also as per IRC, we would probably need to symlink > already-published videos to their new names; else random li

Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration

2014-09-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Aigars, Thanks for your work and considerations! On Donnerstag, 4. September 2014, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: > I would like to ask to remove the "Do not photograph me" checkbox in > Debconf registration form as we do not really have a technology to > implement that. I agree. > As an alternativ

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] First videos are now online

2014-09-04 Thread Joey Hess
Richard Hartmann wrote: > > Also, should we expect the videos to show up under > > http://annex.debconf.org/debconf-share/debconf14/ at some point? > > *cough* oups *cough* > > They are in the annex (I just synced another batch which I had added > on disk over time). > > That being said, they're

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread Russ Allbery
alberto fuentes writes: > [...] > [0] Do not use foul language; besides, some people receive the lists > via packet radio, where swearing is illegal. > [...] > Please refrain from using those words in here. Use poo and m'kay instead[1] > [0] https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct >

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] First videos are now online

2014-09-04 Thread Richard Hartmann
Can you magic up a way to convert URL content into links to the actual WWW target? Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-team] [Debconf-announce] First videos are now online

2014-09-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 05:27:46PM +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote: > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Carl Karsten wrote: > > the good news is the string and summit db key is here: > > http://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/C/debian/S/debconf14.json > > "slug": "HPs_OpenStack_Helion_Debian_all_the_wa

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] First videos are now online

2014-09-04 Thread alberto fuentes
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:14 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: > One of the things I wanted to address post-DebConf14 is to make sure the > event pages in summit.debconf.org include direct links to the video > recordings. Can you tell me if there's a reliable naming scheme for these > files? E.g., it app

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread alberto fuentes
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > This provision has been ignored on our mailing lists for as long as I've > been a member of the project. There was some recent discussion of the > packet radio reference that concluded that this justification was rather > dubious. I wonder if

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 20:11 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I should preface this by saying that I personally don't feel that strongly > about this one way or the other. But it came up in another forum that > isn't the right place to talk about it, and I've been trying to make a > point of doing my p

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Ian Jackson [2014-09-04 05:15 -0700]: > I am not angry or upset with the performance of Debconf organisers > or the antiharassment team. Rather, I feel that they were not > provided with the tools and support required to do their job. Right, and we are also new to this. We should no

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] First videos are now online

2014-09-04 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Alberto, On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 07:45:51PM +0200, alberto fuentes wrote: > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:14 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: > > One of the things I wanted to address post-DebConf14 is to make sure the > > event pages in summit.debconf.org include direct links to the video > > recordings.

Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration

2014-09-04 Thread Ian Jackson
Aigars Mahinovs writes ("[Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration"): > [stuff] I have nothing substantive to add to what you and others have written, but I did want to thank you for thinking about this issue carefully, raising it here, and helping to work to find a reasonabl

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread Ian Jackson
Ben Hutchings writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity"): > Biella also tweeted one of her slides in advance of her talk, and I > pointed out the rule to her then. I believe she subsequently discussed > the (considerable) number of quoted expletives in the slides with

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread Josh Triplett
On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 08:11:11PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I should preface this by saying that I personally don't feel that strongly > about this one way or the other. But it came up in another forum that > isn't the right place to talk about it, and I've been trying to make a > point of doi

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Ben Hutchings [2014-09-04 10:58 -0700]: > It has also not been unusual for a few expletives to appear in > slides or spoken words in talks at previous DebConfs. So far as > I know, that hasn't been something people complained about in the > past. > > Given that people are now bringin

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Fascinated to see dedicated attendee at Debconf14 with 'Blindness'

2014-09-04 Thread Robert Edmonds
sco1...@gmail.com wrote: > Unfortunately I don't no his name. Attending a DebConf for the first time, I had this problem repeatedly. It would be nice if questioners would introduce themselves after taking the microphone for the first time. At larger conferences (e.g., NANOG) this is virtually a r

Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration

2014-09-04 Thread Josh Triplett
On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 11:49:30PM -0700, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: > I would like to ask to remove the "Do not photograph me" checkbox in > Debconf registration form as we do not really have a technology to > implement that. > > While I understand and sympathize with privacy concerns that people > h

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Josh Triplett wrote: > On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 08:11:11PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> I should preface this by saying that I personally don't feel that strongly >> about this one way or the other. But it came up in another forum that >> isn't the right place to t

Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration

2014-09-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Josh Triplett [2014-09-04 12:00 -0700]: > For that matter, perhaps the conference organizers could send > a single mail to the set of people who checked that box during > registration, requesting input on this topic? We could, but for what purpose? Let's just assume that 50% write bac

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread alberto fuentes
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > > +1. > > I'd like to add that restraining oneself from using profanity (either > as a speaker or as an audience member) in a public venue is common > courtesy. Similarly as we choose our words when speaking to strangers. > I might be tempte

Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration

2014-09-04 Thread Josh Triplett
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 12:12:22PM -0700, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Josh Triplett [2014-09-04 12:00 -0700]: > > For that matter, perhaps the conference organizers could send > > a single mail to the set of people who checked that box during > > registration, requesting input on this top

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread Josh Triplett
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 09:16:15PM +0200, alberto fuentes wrote: > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > > > > +1. > > > > I'd like to add that restraining oneself from using profanity (either > > as a speaker or as an audience member) in a public venue is common > > courtesy. S

Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration

2014-09-04 Thread Aigars Mahinovs
On 4 Sep 2014 12:21, "Josh Triplett" > That's not what I was suggesting. I'm suggesting specifically that we > seek input on the proposal in Aigars' mail, regarding whether photo-free > areas and similar steps would prove sufficient for those seeking to > avoid photography, or if not, then what ad

Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration

2014-09-04 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:12 PM, martin f krafft wrote: > The only thing I would like to see changed is that the photo data > don't go to Google or Flickr or whoever else, but stay on our own > infrastructure with a clear message that they must not appear on > Facebook or other such thievery servic

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] First videos are now online

2014-09-04 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 13689 March 1977, Joey Hess wrote: >> That being said, they're there as web URLs, not files; I simply forgot >> about the web front-end. >> Maybe it's possible to have git-annex magic some links to the mirrors >> (CC'ed joeyh); else, I will need to poke Ganneff (also CC'ed) about >> space usage

Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration

2014-09-04 Thread Jeremy Baron
On Sep 4, 2014 3:42 PM, "Richard Hartmann" wrote: > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:12 PM, martin f krafft wrote: > > The only thing I would like to see changed is that the photo data > > don't go to Google or Flickr or whoever else, but stay on our own > > infrastructure with a clear message that they

Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration

2014-09-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Aigars Mahinovs [2014-09-04 12:33 -0700]: > I think that is a very good idea, I was asking feedback from such > people in the original email too, but a direct mailing with > anonymised response would be quite nice. I will, however, take > someone to actually do it and some time. I can

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread Margarita Manterola
Hi, Thanks Russ for raising this issue, I think it's worthy of discussion. My feeling is that completely forbidding profanity (or whatever the right word for it is, profanity also seems wrong) doesn't benefit DebConf. Personally, I do want people to "be excellent to each other", to treat each

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Freitag, 5. September 2014, Margarita Manterola wrote: > -Adult or expletive language; > -Language which is not appropriate for an all-ages audience. > +Insults or ad-hominem attacks; > + We also ask you to avoid language which is not appropriate for an > all-ages audience as mu

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf conference policy on profanity

2014-09-04 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 04 Sep 2014 22:13:07 +, Margarita Manterola wrote: > My feeling is that completely forbidding profanity (or whatever the > right word for it is, profanity also seems wrong) doesn't benefit > DebConf. > Personally, I do want people to "be excellent to each other", to > treat each other

Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Do not photograph" checkbox in registration

2014-09-04 Thread Luke Faraone
On 4 September 2014 13:38, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Aigars Mahinovs [2014-09-04 12:33 -0700]: >> On a side note: I am note aware of any legal or privacy problems >> occuring from uploading public CC/GPL-licensed photos to either >> Google Plus or Flickr (paid version in both cases) >