Re: [Debconf-discuss] OpenPGP primary key expirations

2010-08-16 Thread Judit Foglszinger
> I'm not sure... are you talking about trust signatures? No, normal signatures, explained under --default-cert-level in gpg manpage. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-dis

Re: [Debconf-discuss] OpenPGP primary key expirations

2010-08-16 Thread Chris Knadle
Ugh. Mailed Jamie directly and didn't see that he CC:ed the list, and lost the original email due to Mutt misconfig. On Monday 16 August 2010 19:47:30 Jameson Rollins wrote: > On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:37:37 -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: > > I'd rather not change mailing lists [at least not for the

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Proceedings from the 11th Debian Developers Conference are out!

2010-08-16 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
could you please look at http://www.onerussian.com/tmp/proceedings.pdf and state either it is an improvement (then I push) or got only worse (then I guess should not ) ;-) all titles of the talks should lead to corresponding penta pages (thanks MrBeige), all emails for authors to your mail client.

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Proceedings from the 11th Debian Developers Conference are out!

2010-08-16 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, David Bremner wrote: > > great! thanks for the information -- do you also know where > > dc10-talk-abstracts.csv came from? unfortunately that .csv seems to be > > laking ids to easily link it against penta's pages > I guess you might need to talk to Richard Darst (MrBeige on I

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Proceedings from the 11th Debian Developers Conference are out!

2010-08-16 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
> Originally it was generated via > python ./process-abstracts.py dc10-talk-abstracts.csv | \ > perl ./tex-escape.pl great! thanks for the information -- do you also know where dc10-talk-abstracts.csv came from? unfortunately that .csv seems to be laking ids to easily link it against penta's

Re: [Debconf-discuss] OpenPGP primary key expirations

2010-08-16 Thread Jameson Rollins
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:37:37 -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: > I'd rather not change mailing lists [at least not for the overall > discussion] -- while it sounds like it makes sense, I find that in > practice changing mailing lists ruins the context. In this case we're > discussing what is/was "co

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Proceedings from the 11th Debian Developers Conference are out!

2010-08-16 Thread Michael Schultheiss
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > I am migrating from yoh-guest to yoh, so could you please add 'yoh' > account to be able to contribute? Done ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-

Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG PhotoIDs

2010-08-16 Thread Chris Knadle
On Monday 16 August 2010 16:13:17 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: ... > Most often the main tools to build that trust is a) some photo ID which > I try to have trust in the validity of, and b) the physical presence of > the person claiming to own the digital identy, the name, the email > address(es) and t

Re: [Debconf-discuss] OpenPGP primary key expirations

2010-08-16 Thread Chris Knadle
On Monday 16 August 2010 16:11:52 Aaron M. Ucko wrote: > Chris Knadle writes: > > Hi, Chris! I'm staying out of the policy discussion, but have some > technical comments on photo IDs. > > > I don't agree with the latter reason, as I think this should be a > > personal choice and I don't think P

Re: [Debconf-discuss] OpenPGP primary key expirations

2010-08-16 Thread Chris Knadle
On Monday 16 August 2010 15:45:22 Judit Foglszinger wrote: > > I'd appreciate other people's opinions on PhotoIDs, as I don't have > > any strong feelings about them one way or the other. > > Photo IDs can be displayed with gpg (--edit-key $KEYID, showphoto). I didn't think that would work withou

Re: [Debconf-discuss] OpenPGP primary key expirations

2010-08-16 Thread Chris Knadle
On Monday 16 August 2010 14:37:37 Chris Knadle wrote: ... > I'm also having trouble when attempting to use an exported secret > subkey for signing use on a laptop. I would like to think that using > '--export-secret-subkey' for the signing subkey and importing it on > the laptop would be the corr

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Proceedings from the 11th Debian Developers Conference are out!

2010-08-16 Thread David Bremner
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 17:00:34 -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > > how was abstracts.tex generated? I just wonder if there is an easy way > to complement it with those urls pointing to penta? > Originally it was generated via python ./process-abstracts.py dc10-talk-abstracts.csv | \ perl

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Proceedings from the 11th Debian Developers Conference are out!

2010-08-16 Thread Ralf Treinen
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:43:01AM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > > On Sun, 15 Aug 2010, Holger Levsen wrote: > > > them or making them nice for online viewing (no empty pages, smaller > > > margins), etc. > > IMO we should make two versions available, a pdf and a html version. > I haven't do

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Proceedings from the 11th Debian Developers Conference are out!

2010-08-16 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010, Holger Levsen wrote: > > -- many urls > > stick out, do we really need it in the format assuming people printing > > them or making them nice for online viewing (no empty pages, smaller > > margins), etc. > IMO we should make two versions available, a pdf and a html version.

Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG PhotoIDs

2010-08-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Chris, On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 02:37:37PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: Another aspect that is troublesome are PhotoIDs in keys; several people had them. In order to go view the PhotoIDs I opened Kleopatra in KDE4 (4.4.5 in Sid), and when viewing a key it says this: "At the moment, Kleopatra

Re: [Debconf-discuss] OpenPGP primary key expirations

2010-08-16 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Chris Knadle writes: Hi, Chris! I'm staying out of the policy discussion, but have some technical comments on photo IDs. > I don't agree with the latter reason, as I think this should be a > personal choice and I don't think PhotoIDs are "wrong", and I'm > annoyed that such a choice is being ma

Re: [Debconf-discuss] OpenPGP primary key expirations

2010-08-16 Thread Judit Foglszinger
> I'd appreciate other people's opinions on PhotoIDs, as I don't have > any strong feelings about them one way or the other. Photo IDs can be displayed with gpg (--edit-key $KEYID, showphoto). Generally they are hard to verify without a photographic memory if the person on the photo is not a wel

Re: [Debconf-discuss] OpenPGP primary key expirations

2010-08-16 Thread Chris Knadle
On Monday, August 16, 2010, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > On 08/13/2010 07:25 PM, Milan Kupcevic wrote: > > Chris Knadle wrote: > >> If you look at the signatures of my key [0x6A9FDD74], I think > >> you'll see something interesting which will also likely answer > >> your question. > > > > Hm, the

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Proceedings from the 11th Debian Developers Conference are out!

2010-08-16 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Thank you Matt! So, within proceedings I guess it should suffice to have Copyright (C) 2010 of respective authors. Distributed under the terms of MIT/X11 license right? On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > from: http://debconf10.debconf.org/cfp.xhtml > Fine Print Publication Rights > D

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Proceedings from the 11th Debian Developers Conference are out!

2010-08-16 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > > On Sun, 15 Aug 2010, Holger Levsen wrote: >> > http://media.debconf.org/dc10/proceedings.pdf >> Could someone please jump in and improve this? Thanks. > > BTW -- I don't remember what were conditions of submissions of our > abstracts

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Proceedings from the 11th Debian Developers Conference are out!

2010-08-16 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 02:07:34 (CEST), Russ Allbery wrote: > Holger Levsen writes: >> On Sonntag, 15. August 2010, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > >>> Those seems needing some TLC to look proper at many places > >> Gee... I don't know what TLC means... > > "Tender loving care." In this sort of co

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Proceedings from the 11th Debian Developers Conference are out!

2010-08-16 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010, Holger Levsen wrote: > > http://media.debconf.org/dc10/proceedings.pdf > Could someone please jump in and improve this? Thanks. BTW -- I don't remember what were conditions of submissions of our abstracts to penta -- i.e. who owns the copyright to our proceedings (respective

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Proceedings from the 11th Debian Developers Conference are out!

2010-08-16 Thread David Bremner
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 11:43:01 -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > tth [is dead] > so what should be used? tex4ht is big, bewildering and slow, but generates nice output. > > also, if we go with PDF without .ps/.dvi/... then why not to use > pdflatex, then there would be no problem/necessity to

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Proceedings from the 11th Debian Developers Conference are out!

2010-08-16 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010, Holger Levsen wrote: > > them or making them nice for online viewing (no empty pages, smaller > > margins), etc. > IMO we should make two versions available, a pdf and a html version. I haven't done latex -> html for long time so not sure what would be a proper solution, but

Re: [Debconf-discuss] OpenPGP primary key expirations

2010-08-16 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 08/13/2010 07:25 PM, Milan Kupcevic wrote: > Chris Knadle wrote: > >> If you look at the signatures of my key [0x6A9FDD74], I think >> you'll see something interesting which will also likely answer your >> question. > > Hm, the signature in question is valid exactly 5 years after the > signin

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Proceedings from the 11th Debian Developers Conference are out!

2010-08-16 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010, Holger Levsen wrote: > > Are sources available anywhere? > sure: svn://svn.debian.org/svn/debconf-data/dc10/proceedings I guess I am lacking permissions to commit: $> git svn dcommit Committing to svn://svn.debian.org/svn/debconf-data/dc10/proceedings ... Use of uninitialize

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Proceedings from the 11th Debian Developers Conference are out!

2010-08-16 Thread David Bremner
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 09:19:46 -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > On Sun, 01 Aug 2010, Safir Secerovic wrote: > > Those seems needing some TLC to look proper at many places -- many urls > stick out, do we really need it in the format assuming people printing > them or making them nice for online v