Re: [Debconf-discuss] list of valid documents for KSPs

2006-05-27 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Goswin von Brederlow dijo [Sun, May 28, 2006 at 02:50:26AM +0200]: > >> Is there a list of official documents (with photos) that we can consider > >> acceptable for a KSP?. If there's not we definitely need one. > >> However this is rather tricky because the list itself should be > >> authenticat

Re: [Debconf-discuss] list of valid documents for KSPs (was: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys)

2006-05-27 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Steve Langasek dijo [Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:12:48PM -0700]: > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:28:35PM +0200, Filippo Giunchedi wrote: > > Is there a list of official documents (with photos) that we can consider > > acceptable for a KSP?. If there's not we definitely need one. > > However this is rathe

[Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread martin f krafft
Dear Manoj, dear fellow DDs, I guess I could have known that this experiment of mine would turn into a huge thread, unfortunately extending across two mailing lists. Thus, it is surely in order for me to apologise for being the cause that your inboxes filled up. I have said most of what I wanted

Re: [Debconf-discuss] list of valid documents for KSPs (was: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys)

2006-05-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:28:35PM +0200, Filippo Giunchedi wrote: > Is there a list of official documents (with photos) that we can consider > acceptable for a KSP?. If there's not we definitely need one. > However this is rather tricky because the list itself should be authenticated > somehow, w

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Follow-up: additional checks you can do

2006-05-27 Thread Andreas Schuldei
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 11:58:41AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > I'm more in favour of the trouble-maker part. I had a printed copy > > from Anibal because I was on the road in Mexico prior to DebConf and > > couldn't make a printout in time. If you would have asked, I would > > have confirme

[Debconf-discuss] list of valid documents for KSPs (was: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys)

2006-05-27 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 04:54:19PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: [snip] > Also worth noting that Spanish driving license IDs are on that group. They > are just (pink) cardboard with your name written in with a typewriter and > your picture *stapled* to it. I believe that has changed

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Follow-up: additional checks you can do

2006-05-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 27 May 2006, Moritz Muehlenhoff stated: > I'm more in favour of the trouble-maker part. I had a printed copy > from Anibal because I was on the road in Mexico prior to DebConf and > couldn't make a printout in time. If you would have asked, I would > have confirmed you that I had checked the f

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On 5/27/06, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 12:33:54PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Within the Schengen area (European Union plus Norway, Vatican, > and... any others?), you travel between countries without even waving > your passport at anybody.

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 04:04:33PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > > That being said I (personally) already decided not to sign people that > > showed > > me something that was *not* a passport and noted that in my KSP paper page > > through it. Unfortunately, I'm not confindent in my ability t

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 03:09:04PM +0200, Filippo Giunchedi wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 08:00:23PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña > wrote: > > FWIW, I noted down those keys I would *not* sign and didn't tell the people > > at the KSP that I would not sign them. I guess his experiment "

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Follow-up: additional checks you can do [was: KSP post-mortem: why I won't be able to sign some keys]

2006-05-27 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Steve Langasek wrote: > At Manoj's request, I've compiled a list of those KSP participants who, per > my notes, I saw using photocopies that included the pre-filled checksum; > this list is attached, for each of you to use (or not, as you wish) as input > into your own keysigning decisions. You'll

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 05:30:23PM +0200, Luca Capello wrote: > > FYI, Martin's explanation is at [1], which passed on Planet Debian. > > > > Thx, bye, > > Gismo / Luca > > > > [1] http://blog.madduck.net/geek/2006.05.24-tr-id-at-keysigning > > FWIW, I not

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Evaluation (rating?) of talks/workshops and speakers?

2006-05-27 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 11:37:48PM +0200, Amaya wrote: > Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > > 3.- Rating for the speaker > > Bear in mind some talks had more than one speaker, and there should be a > way to deal with the lightning talks too. It's just a matter of having the questionnarie hav

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 12:33:54PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Within the Schengen area (European Union plus Norway, Vatican, > and... any others?), you travel between countries without even waving > your passport at anybody. That's not fully true. You have to show your passport to the *first* cou

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Robert Collins
On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 15:45 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I think the core issue here is if we deem presenting purchased > > identification at an event designed to extend the web of trust > > acceptable behaviour. > > I don't thin

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 04:16:24PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The KSP was cracked, People signed a key without ever looking > at proper, official ID. You can try and save face by calling it > whatever you want, but that does not change the reality. Manoj, how

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 26 May 2006, David Moreno Garza wrote: > That's illegal actually. It is quite often to get your passport sealed I have no idea about illegal (it might well be against some international treaty, however), but it is very dangerous for you not to have your passport stamped. There are very fe

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think the core issue here is if we deem presenting purchased > identification at an event designed to extend the web of trust > acceptable behaviour. I don't think anyone has said that it's satisfactory. _

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Penny Leach
On 5/27/06, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Only if you are reasonably well acquinted with the English language andusual english names and nicknames.This is true. One of the people at Debconf 5 I was thinking of, whose name I absolutely have no idea of anymore, was either a n