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Re: Rebirth of Guilds

2000-09-27 Thread Sampo A Syreeni
On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Tim May wrote: >Lynching is an act of physical aggression, not at all the same thing >as choosing not to trade with someone, not to invite him into one's >home, not to interact with him. In my mind, that is a rather fine line. >If Alice doesn't want Bob in _her_ "venue" (

Re: police IR searches to Supremes

2000-09-27 Thread Sampo A Syreeni
On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Steve Furlong wrote: >> Supreme Court to hear thermal peeking case >> By MICHAEL KIRKLAND > ><> > >I don't see how any rational mind could see this type of search as >allowed under the US 4th Amendment. Too bad no jurist has asked my >opinion. Well, I think that as long as

Re: free speech children michigan law

2000-09-27 Thread Steve Furlong
Tim May wrote: > > At 8:37 PM -0400 9/26/00, Steve Furlong wrote: > >"A. Melon" wrote: > >> Michigans Anti-Cussing Law Called Into Question > > > >< >woman after she asked him not to swear near a small child. He might be > >charged under MI's anti-swearing law or under disturbing the peace.>> >

Re: police IR searches to Supremes

2000-09-27 Thread Steve Furlong
Sampo A Syreeni wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Steve Furlong wrote: > > >> Supreme Court to hear thermal peeking case > >> By MICHAEL KIRKLAND > > > ><> > > > >I don't see how any rational mind could see this type of search as > >allowed under the US 4th Amendment. Too bad no jurist has asked

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Re: Lions and Tigers and Backdoors, oh, my...

2000-09-27 Thread Steve Furlong
"Trei, Peter" wrote: > > Can you document this claim of the existance of 'help fields' in > Netscape? I am (to put it mildly) astonished by this claim, and > more than a little skeptical. I was aware of the Workfactor > Reduction field in the export 'aka International' version of Lotus Notes > (w

Re: Lions and Tigers and Backdoors, oh, my...

2000-09-27 Thread Matt Curtin
> "Steve" == Steve Furlong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Steve> The only thing that might be the "help" field is "X-UIDL", Steve> which has a value of random-seeming characters. UIDL is Unique ID Listing, described in section 7 of RFC 1725, "Post Office Protocol - Version 3". Steve> I,

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2000-09-27 Thread A. Melon
>You know, I hope it passes. No, I havent taken leave of my senses. >Ive just had it up to here with gradualism. Im really reaching the >point of morbid curiosity to see exactly what the sheeple will tolerate. > >The United States is sick. Intoxicated on its own power, it has a >serious case

Fw: Bill Clinton convicted of war crimes

2000-09-27 Thread Marcel Popescu
> From: "Dave Kuehne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Bill Clinton convicted of war crimes > Date: Sunday, September 24, 2000 1:27 AM > > Source: > Virtual New York > http://www.vny.com/ > > Belgrade gives Clinton, others 20 years in jail > http://www.vny.com/cf/New

Re: Rebirth of Guilds

2000-09-27 Thread James A.. Donald
-- On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Tim May wrote: > > Lynching is an act of physical aggression, not at all the same thing as choosing not to trade with someone, not to invite him into one's home, not to interact with him. At 06:32 AM 9/27/2000 -0400, Sampo A Syreeni wrote: > In my mind, that is a

More from RISKS

2000-09-27 Thread Marcel Popescu
A private solution to the problem that one Carl wanted more laws to solve: Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:08:29 -0700 X-Loop: openpgp.net From: Martin Minow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Identity theft (Ellison, RISKS-21.05) > Now -- how do we get consumer protection laws that make it clear that a

Re: police IR searches to Supremes

2000-09-27 Thread David Honig
At 06:52 AM 9/27/00 -0400, Sampo A Syreeni wrote: >Well, I think that as long as a conventional photograph is taken from a >public place, it does not constitute a punishable breach of privacy. What's >so very different about doing the same thing with IR? Heh, maybe someone should take some IR (vi

Re: police IR searches to Supremes

2000-09-27 Thread David Honig
At 06:52 AM 9/27/00 -0400, Sampo A Syreeni wrote: >Well, I think that as long as a conventional photograph is taken from a >public place, it does not constitute a punishable breach of privacy. What's >so very different about doing the same thing with IR? So if you use a different wavelength you c

Re: free speech children michigan law

2000-09-27 Thread Tim May
At 8:45 AM -0400 9/27/00, Steve Furlong wrote: > > In the year or so I've been posting on c-punks, you have several >times mentioned that I had a good point but not once had you suggested >that I should be killed. I was starting to feel left out. > >I do not think the woman should be filing suit.

RE: More from RISKS

2000-09-27 Thread Minow, Martin
Title: RE: More from RISKS Sorry, it wasn't a "private solution" but relied on the existing legal protections under Federal Law. If I was asking for more laws, I'd ask for the Swedish credit disclosure law that says that whenever a company writes a credit report it must provide the individua

Re: More from RISKS

2000-09-27 Thread dmolnar
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Marcel Popescu wrote: > A private solution to the problem that one Carl wanted more laws to solve: [snip] > optimistic than Carl. I solved my problem by reading the back page of the > credit report, where it provided addresses of the federal agencies that > regulate colle

Re: More from RISKS

2000-09-27 Thread Marcel Popescu
X-Loop: openpgp.net From: "dmolnar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "private" ? Ok, I was stupid. I skipped the "federal" word - I had the mistaken impression that he contacted the credit bureaus. Mark

Re: free speech children michigan law

2000-09-27 Thread Marcel Popescu
X-Loop: openpgp.net From: "Tim May" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > (Seriously, I say you should GET THE FUCK out of this law school you > are now in. Too many damned lawyers as it is. If you really think, as > you claimed a few weeks ago, that you can study law and then somehow > affect the law/programmin

Re: Rebirth of Guilds

2000-09-27 Thread Jim Burnes
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, James A.. Donald wrote: > -- > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Tim May wrote: > > > Lynching is an act of physical aggression, not at all the same thing > > as choosing not to trade with someone, not to invite him into one's home, > not to interact with him. > > At 06:32 AM 9/27/2000

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Re: police IR searches to Supremes

2000-09-27 Thread jim bell
- Original Message - X-Loop: openpgp.net From: Sampo A Syreeni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Multiple recipients of list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 3:52 AM Subject: Re: police IR searches to Supremes > On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Steve Furlong wrote: > > >> Supreme Cour

Re: Info retrieval with known drivers license

2000-09-27 Thread elyk
On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 04:56:26PM -0400, David Honig wrote: > > At 12:26 PM 9/26/00 -0400, Jill Stone wrote: > > If you know a Drivers License number, do you know how to retrieve the > >registration information? js > > A small contribution to the personal fund of a DMV clerk works well..

Re: Lions and Tigers and Backdoors, oh, my...

2000-09-27 Thread brflgnk
Ray said: -- begin quote -- I do not buy the story that what happened to PGP was an accident; on the contrary, it was just NAI doing what they had to do to get approval to put it up for international downloads, the same as Lotus just did what it had to do. -- end quote -- I have to agree. The

Re: Lions and Tigers and Backdoors, oh, my...

2000-09-27 Thread Tim May
At 6:24 PM -0400 9/27/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Ray said: >-- begin quote -- >I do not buy the story that what happened to PGP >was an accident; on the contrary, it was just NAI doing what they >had to do to get approval to put it up for international downloads, >the same as Lotus just did wha

Re: Lions and Tigers and Backdoors, oh, my...

2000-09-27 Thread David Honig
At 06:48 PM 9/27/00 -0400, Tim May wrote: > >There is no real reason for crypto to be built into complex products, >at least not when those products are well-suited for handling text >(and even files). ... >To wit, who really cares whether Netscape 4.08 or 4.07 has crypto >built in so long as a

Re: Lions and Tigers and Backdoors, oh, my...

2000-09-27 Thread Tim May
At 7:33 PM -0400 9/27/00, David Honig wrote: > > >It does create a single-point-of-failure if everyone uses the same >library (or other independent 'module'), but on the other hand, everyone >rolling their own is likely to introduce more fatal flaws. > >Curious what the alternatives are, I said n

Re: police IR searches to Supremes

2000-09-27 Thread Richard Fiero
Sampo A Syreeni writes: > . . . > >Well, I think that as long as a conventional photograph is taken from a >public place, it does not constitute a punishable breach of privacy. What's >so very different about doing the same thing with IR? > >Sampo Syreeni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, aka decoy, student/ma

Re: free speech children michigan law

2000-09-27 Thread Steven Furlong
Tim May wrote: > > At 8:45 AM -0400 9/27/00, Steve Furlong wrote: > >I do not think the woman should be filing suit. She should have ignored > >the boor or, if her command of invective sufficed, told him off > >scathingly. I do, however, support the right of people to take matters > >to civil cou

Re: police IR searches to Supremes

2000-09-27 Thread POF
At 08:50 PM 9/27/00 -0400, you wrote: >just the wall temperature. This kind of surveillance is clearly >invasive, in my opinion. surveillance, regarless of the inevitable (sp?) conversation about the need/desire for it, is by nature invasive. so it seems that you'd mean "unacceptably invasive" (h

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Re: free speech children michigan law

2000-09-27 Thread Greg Broiles
At 09:23 PM 9/27/00 -0400, Steven Furlong wrote: >You claim that the man's swearing at the woman didn't violate any law, >so she can't sue. That's probably false under Michigan criminal law >(anti-cussing law and disturbing the peace, according to the DA; I don't >say I agree with it) Hmm, maybe

Re: free speech children michigan law

2000-09-27 Thread Tim May
At 9:23 PM -0400 9/27/00, Steven Furlong wrote: > > > The point being that civil cases for damages should not be allowed >> for NONCRIMINAL issues. That is, a "matter of law" should be involved. >> >> Example: a bookstore owner sues because another bookstore moved in >> across the street from

Re: Lions and Tigers and Backdoors, oh, my...

2000-09-27 Thread Tim May
At 10:41 PM -0400 9/27/00, David Honig wrote: >At 07:51 PM 9/27/00 -0400, Tim May wrote: >>At 7:33 PM -0400 9/27/00, David Honig wrote: >>> >>> >>>It does create a single-point-of-failure if everyone uses the same >>>library (or other independent 'module'), but on the other hand, everyone >>>rolli

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Re: Lions and Tigers and Backdoors, oh, my...

2000-09-27 Thread brflgnk
Tim said: -- begin quote -- I can't speak to the truth or falsity or plausibility of some of the claims here, but there is a general point: modularization. There is no real reason for crypto to be built into complex products, at least not when those products are well-suited for handling text (a

Re: police IR searches to Supremes

2000-09-27 Thread Steven Furlong
Richard Fiero wrote: > One could argue that all electromagnetic radiation is in the public > domain and receivable. However it is illegal to have equipment capable > of receiving cell phone conversations because the rights of the > telephone company and the rights of the conversants could be viola

Re: Lions and Tigers and Backdoors, oh, my...

2000-09-27 Thread David Honig
At 07:51 PM 9/27/00 -0400, Tim May wrote: >At 7:33 PM -0400 9/27/00, David Honig wrote: >> >> >>It does create a single-point-of-failure if everyone uses the same >>library (or other independent 'module'), but on the other hand, everyone >>rolling their own is likely to introduce more fatal flaws.

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2000-09-27 Thread R. A. Hettinga
Forwarded without (too much) comment, except that I can't wait until the auditors see *this* one on IBUC's books. :-). For those who don't know them Gold-Age is one of the new gold exchanges instituted in the e-gold system so that e-gold itself can concentrate on the wholesale end of things.