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From: "Tom Vogt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I won't copy the entire text of "The Ultimate Resource" here. Anyway,
the
> > notion of "finite resources" is dumb. All resources are infinite. The
Earth
> > is round. Deal with it.
>
> "all resources are infinite" - may I quote you nex
At 04:00 PM 28/04/00 +0200, Tom Vogt wrote:
>Reese wrote:
>> If he doesn't want the title, author and ISBN for this (from memory) quote
>> below,
>> I certainly do, so I can see what sort of drivel you've been mushing up
>> your skull with.
>
>here you are:
>
>Title: The New Renaissance : Compute
Reese wrote:
> If he doesn't want the title, author and ISBN for this (from memory) quote
> below,
> I certainly do, so I can see what sort of drivel you've been mushing up
> your skull with.
here you are:
Title: The New Renaissance : Computers and the Next Level of
Civilization
Author: Douglas
Jim Burnes wrote:
> Please, Tom. This is really getting tired. Malthus' theories were disproven
> years ago. Technology increases the population carrying capacity of the
> planet.
while my source was not malthus, I'd be interested in what you mention.
any sources? URLs or ISBNs?
> Rehashing
> I won't copy the entire text of "The Ultimate Resource" here. Anyway, the
> notion of "finite resources" is dumb. All resources are infinite. The Earth
> is round. Deal with it.
"all resources are infinite" - may I quote you next time my machine runs
out of memory? maybe it'll be impressed.
I'
At 6:11 PM -0400 4/27/00, Jim Burnes wrote:
>Tim May wrote:
>>
>> At 12:42 PM -0400 4/26/00, Jim Burnes wrote:
>> >
>> >Starvation and privation in most of Africa is almost a stereotype.
>> >
>> >Stick with a minimal government and something approaching english common
>> >law and we have goo
Tim May wrote:
>
> At 12:42 PM -0400 4/26/00, Jim Burnes wrote:
> >
> >Starvation and privation in most of Africa is almost a stereotype.
> >
> >Stick with a minimal government and something approaching english common
> >law and we have goods and happiness aplenty.
>
> There are some interesting
At 02:19 AM 4/27/00 -0400, Marcel Popescu wrote:
>> The difference between bacteria and humans is that some humans
>> think they're different. Meat is meat.
>
>I'm a Christian. These arguments don't hold water to me. Try Tim.
Well, admitting your irrationality is a good start. But we're talking
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From: "Tim May" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Just so you know, I believe the moral thing for Elian's father to
> have done was to hire some skilled people--perhaps ex-Spetsnaz--and
> go in to the Lorenzo and Maryslices home and taken Elian. Once Elian
> was safely out of the house, e
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From: "David Honig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> At 01:04 PM 4/25/00 -0400, Marcel Popescu wrote:
> >Irrelevant. We're not interested in bacteria, but in humans.
>
> The difference between bacteria and humans is that some humans
> think they're different. Meat is meat.
I'm a Christ
At 12:42 PM -0400 4/26/00, Jim Burnes wrote:
>
>Starvation and privation in most of Africa is almost a stereotype.
>
>Stick with a minimal government and something approaching english common
>law and we have goods and happiness aplenty.
There are some interesting issues normally neglected in the
At 04:09 PM 26/04/00 -0400, David Honig wrote:
>At 12:42 PM 4/26/00 -0400, Jim Burnes wrote:
>>Please, Tom. This is really getting tired. Malthus' theories were
disproven
>>years ago. Technology increases the population carrying capacity of the
>>planet.
>
>Polynomial vs. exponential growth. E
At 03:34 AM 26/04/00 -0400, Tom Vogt wrote:
>Marcel Popescu wrote:
>> Irrelevant. We're not interested in bacteria, but in humans. And we're not
>> interested in 7 billion years from now on, but in (at most) the next
hundred
>> years. Given the current technology, we could feed probably 1,000 bill
David Honig wrote:
>
> At 12:42 PM 4/26/00 -0400, Jim Burnes wrote:
> >Please, Tom. This is really getting tired. Malthus' theories were disproven
> >years ago. Technology increases the population carrying capacity of the
> >planet.
>
> Polynomial vs. exponential growth. Exponential wins eve
At 12:42 PM 4/26/00 -0400, Jim Burnes wrote:
>Please, Tom. This is really getting tired. Malthus' theories were disproven
>years ago. Technology increases the population carrying capacity of the
>planet.
Polynomial vs. exponential growth. Exponential wins every time.
Besides, the genes are m
Tom Vogt wrote:
>
> Marcel Popescu wrote:
> > Irrelevant. We're not interested in bacteria, but in humans. And we're not
> > interested in 7 billion years from now on, but in (at most) the next hundred
> > years. Given the current technology, we could feed probably 1,000 billion
> > people, and t
At 01:04 PM 4/25/00 -0400, Marcel Popescu wrote:
>Irrelevant. We're not interested in bacteria, but in humans.
The difference between bacteria and humans is that some humans
think they're different. Meat is meat.
And some of the humans think that, because a few percent has achieved
z.p.g. a
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From: "Tim May" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Yep. Good bye.
Look, everyone, I'm putting him in my killfile too! [I can't do that without
saying it publicly, this would ruin the effect, right?]
Tim, I used to admire you. Sadly, it looks that I'm the only fucking
anarchist left on Ea
>
>at the current standard of living for canada, we would ALREADY need two
>ADDITIONAL earths to sustain the CURRENT world population.
>
>even without a change in standards of living, given current growth and
>the nature of exponential functions, we will exhaust this planet's
>resources ca. 200 y
Marcel Popescu wrote:
> Irrelevant. We're not interested in bacteria, but in humans. And we're not
> interested in 7 billion years from now on, but in (at most) the next hundred
> years. Given the current technology, we could feed probably 1,000 billion
> people, and there's room for much more tha
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From: "Tom Vogt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> someone calculated that to supply the standard-of-living of canada today
> to every person on the globe would require the natural resources of two
> additional earths. I can look up the source if someone wants it.
"Someone" is an idiot.
"Marcel Popescu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Read some Julian Simon. (BTW, if you look at the decaying ratio between the
> prices of commodities and real salaries from the other side, it means that
> the average price of labor *raises* compared to the price of commodities, so
> we have an *unde
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From: "David Honig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> At 10:04 PM 4/21/00 -0400, david wrote:
> >Over population is junk science.
>
> Sorry, can't let this one go. Over population is physics,
> its why evolution works, its the sigmoid curve, its dying in
> your own pollution. You may ar
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