Re: Lunar Colony

2004-01-21 Thread ken
John Washburn wrote: I would think the problem with the camp X-Ray approach is the same as happened historically in Botany Bay or fictionally in the Moon is a Harsh Mistress. When (not if) the ongoing support of the penal colony collapses what happens? The children are in legal limbo; neither c

RE: Lunar Colony

2004-01-19 Thread Jim Dixon
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, John Washburn wrote: > I would think the problem with the camp X-Ray approach is the same as > happened historically in Botany Bay or fictionally in the Moon is a > Harsh Mistress. > > When (not if) the ongoing support of the penal colony collapses what > happens? > > The chil

RE: Lunar Colony

2004-01-19 Thread John Washburn
Washburn Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Lunar Colony On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, John Washburn wrote: > I would think the problem with the camp X-Ray approach is the same as > happened historically in Botany Bay or fictionally in the Moon is a > Harsh Mistress. > > When (not if) the

RE: Lunar Colony

2004-01-19 Thread John Washburn
ve an interplanetary war of secession? -Original Message- From: Tyler Durden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 3:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Lunar Colony >Interesting OpEd piece in the NYT today poin

Re: Lunar Colony

2004-01-15 Thread Alan
On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 16:11, Justin wrote: > Trei, Peter (2004-01-15 21:39Z) wrote: > > Interesting OpEd piece in the NYT today pointing out that > > a manned Mars expedition becomes *much* more affordable if > > no return trip is planned. > > This is obvious. More affordable, but more risk. We

Re: Lunar Colony

2004-01-15 Thread Justin
Trei, Peter (2004-01-15 21:39Z) wrote: > >Does anyone think it will take less than trillions > >of dollars to establish a moon base? > > The more realistic numbers I've heard are $400 billion > for a moon base, double that for a Mars mission. I don't > know the incremental cost to sustain the moo

Re: Lunar Colony

2004-01-15 Thread bgt
On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 12:00, Tyler Durden wrote: > Even more importantly, we can basically make the entire moon the perfect > model of American culture in action, without any other nation to contest our > policies there. It could be a paradise, and since no terrorists or ragheads > will be allo

RE: Lunar Colony

2004-01-15 Thread Trei, Peter
Justin wrote: >Does anyone think it will take less than trillions >of dollars to establish a moon base? The more realistic numbers I've heard are $400 billion for a moon base, double that for a Mars mission. I don't know the incremental cost to sustain the moonbase. Interesting OpEd piece in the

Re: Lunar Colony

2004-01-15 Thread Justin
Pete Capelli (2004-01-15 20:12Z) wrote: > > Of course, bankrupting the U.S. and getting a base on the moon are both > > useful objectives. With no financially viable country owning the lunar > > outpost, things could get quite interesting. > > Can't we just match this up with the 60% of the fede

Re: Lunar Colony

2004-01-15 Thread Justin
Tyler Durden (2004-01-15 18:00Z) wrote: > Thank goodness Mr Bush is finally thinking long term. > > Not only will the Lunar Base focus all of our attention away from the wars > and other nastiness down here, it will get us to the moon before Al Qaeda > and bin Laden ever have a chance to start

Re: Lunar Colony

2004-01-15 Thread Pete Capelli
> But bankrupting America will allow the ragheads to win. A lunar colony > within 10 years will certainly bankrupt the U.S. given our current > financial situation. Does anyone think it will take less than trillions > of dollars to establish a moon base? It takes close to a billion > dollars ju