I would think the problem with the camp X-Ray approach is the same as
happened historically in Botany Bay or fictionally in the Moon is a
Harsh Mistress.

When (not if) the ongoing support of the penal colony collapses what
happens?  

The children are in legal limbo; neither convict nor citizen.  (No one
is going to pay the expense to ship them home).  The colonists are cut
off from the home world/empire.  They had little love for the home
world/empire in the first place.  Cut adrift and left to their own
devices why wouldn't the colonists/prisoners declare independence and
have an interplanetary war of secession?

-----Original Message-----
From: Tyler Durden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 3:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Subject: RE: Lunar Colony

>Interesting OpEd piece in the NYT today pointing out that a manned Mars

>expedition becomes *much* more affordable if no return trip is planned.

>This is not a suicide mission; supplies could be sent for rest of the 
>emigrants natural lives,


Gotcha. The obvious next place for a greatly expanded Camp X-ray
operation. 
When we start rounding up the millions of terrorists amongst us we'll
need a 
much bigger place to put 'em. And while they're there, might as well
have 
'em do some martian coalmining or whatever.

-TD

>From: John Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Trei, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,        "'Justin'" 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Lunar Colony
>Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:20:51 -0500
>
>At 04:39 PM 1/15/04 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote:
>...
>>Interesting OpEd piece in the NYT today pointing out that
>>a manned Mars expedition becomes *much* more affordable if
>>no return trip is planned. This is not a suicide mission;
>>supplies could be sent for rest of the emigrants natural
>>lives, and with the time they'd have they could actually
>>start towards building a self-sustaining colony, instead
>>of rushing to get science done before a return trip.
>
>I think this is the right way to do the exploration, but also that our 
>culture is more-or-less incapable of it politically and socially.
Letting 
>people make such a harsh personal choice, letting them die of old age
or 
>ill health on TV, it's hard for me to imagine the American people going
for 
>that.
>
>>Peter Trei
>
>--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>PGP: FA48 3237 9AD5 30AC EEDD  BBC8 2A80 6948 4CAA F259
>
>

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