I had not considered that the "problem" the British had with Botany Bay
was the lack of sterilization.  Sterilization does keep the
prison/colony population stable/controllable.

Still even sterile prisoners/colonists were imprisoned for their
uppity-ness and non-conforming attitudes.  If the resulting culture is
not too vicious (a al San Quentin), organized revolt seems very likely.

Seems a tough box to be in; a vicious culture is not a productive
prison/colony.  A productive prison/colony is may organize a revolt.

This does of course assume politicians dealing with today's problem
(unruly citizens and dissent) care about tomorrow's problem (possible
prison/colony revolt).  

History indicates such future-oriented thinking is unlikely :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 1:29 PM
To: John Washburn
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Lunar Colony

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, John Washburn wrote:

> I would think the problem with the camp X-Ray approach is the same as
> happened historically in Botany Bay or fictionally in the Moon is a
> Harsh Mistress.
>
> When (not if) the ongoing support of the penal colony collapses what
> happens?
>
> The children are in legal limbo; neither convict nor citizen.  (No one

Don't they all get sterilized by radiation on the way to Mars, meaning
that there are no children to be concerned about?

> is going to pay the expense to ship them home).  The colonists are cut
> off from the home world/empire.  They had little love for the home
> world/empire in the first place.  Cut adrift and left to their own
> devices why wouldn't the colonists/prisoners declare independence and
> have an interplanetary war of secession?

Assuming that the radiation isn't such a serious problem, the moon looks
like a more realistic proposition.  Only a couple of days away.  Lots of
energy in sunlight.  Lots of available minerals.  Gravity well fairly
shallow so things can be exported to Earth if on friendly terms and
trading -- or just tossed in that direction if things go bad.

;-)

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