Re: cygport limitations (was: Adding MSYS functionality to Cygwin)

2013-06-25 Thread Earnie Boyd
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Csaba Raduly wrote: > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> On Jun 24 07:03, Earnie Boyd wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:11 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >>> > >>> > Using another build system doesn't mean you can't switch to the better >>>

Re: cygport limitations (was: Adding MSYS functionality to Cygwin)

2013-06-25 Thread Csaba Raduly
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Jun 24 07:03, Earnie Boyd wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:11 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> > >> > Using another build system doesn't mean you can't switch to the better >> > one. >> >> That depends on one's view of better and Chris

Re: cygport limitations (was: Adding MSYS functionality to Cygwin)

2013-06-24 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 24 07:03, Earnie Boyd wrote: > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:11 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > > > Using another build system doesn't mean you can't switch to the better > > one. > > That depends on one's view of better and Chris already believes he > uses the better one. That is why is refus

Re: cygport limitations (was: Adding MSYS functionality to Cygwin)

2013-06-24 Thread Earnie Boyd
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:11 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > Using another build system doesn't mean you can't switch to the better > one. That depends on one's view of better and Chris already believes he uses the better one. That is why is refuses to use something else. -- Earnie -- https://s

Re: cygport limitations

2013-06-24 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 21 13:50, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: > On 2013-06-21 13:10, Warren Young wrote: > >On 6/21/2013 12:05, Warren Young wrote: > >>With cygport, you wouldn't even need to provide sources. We could email > >>in the new cygport file instead of an RFU. > > > >...and patches. > > > >...and customized

Re: cygport limitations (was: Adding MSYS functionality to Cygwin)

2013-06-24 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 21 10:34, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 09:49:34AM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >On Jun 20 22:38, Andrew Schulman wrote: > >> > If every maintainer would use cygport, it would allow us to change > >> > the build method to one along the lines of most Linux distro

Re: cygport limitations (was: Adding MSYS functionality to Cygwin)

2013-06-21 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 04:03:46PM -0400, Andrew Schulman wrote: >>On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 09:49:34AM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >>>On Jun 20 22:38, Andrew Schulman wrote: >If every maintainer would use cygport, it would allow us to change the >build method to one along the lines of mos

Re: cygport limitations (was: Adding MSYS functionality to Cygwin)

2013-06-21 Thread Andrew Schulman
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 09:49:34AM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >On Jun 20 22:38, Andrew Schulman wrote: > >> > If every maintainer would use cygport, it would allow us to change > >> > the build method to one along the lines of most Linux distros. > >> > In Linux distros, the maintaine

Re: cygport limitations

2013-06-21 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On 2013-06-21 13:10, Warren Young wrote: On 6/21/2013 12:05, Warren Young wrote: With cygport, you wouldn't even need to provide sources. We could email in the new cygport file instead of an RFU. ...and patches. ...and customized .hint files, if needed. Yeah, I guess sending the .src.tar.bz

Re: cygport limitations

2013-06-21 Thread Warren Young
On 6/21/2013 12:05, Warren Young wrote: On 6/20/2013 12:10, Corinna Vinschen wrote: If every maintainer would use cygport, it would allow us to change the build method to one along the lines of most Linux distros. In Linux distros, the maintainer provides only the spec file and the s

Re: cygport limitations

2013-06-21 Thread Warren Young
On 6/20/2013 12:10, Corinna Vinschen wrote: If every maintainer would use cygport, it would allow us to change the build method to one along the lines of most Linux distros. In Linux distros, the maintainer provides only the spec file and the source archive. The actual build for all

Re: cygport limitations (was: Adding MSYS functionality to Cygwin)

2013-06-21 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 09:49:34AM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >On Jun 20 22:38, Andrew Schulman wrote: >> > If every maintainer would use cygport, it would allow us to change >> > the build method to one along the lines of most Linux distros. >> > In Linux distros, the maintainer provides

Re: cygport limitations (was: Adding MSYS functionality to Cygwin)

2013-06-21 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 20 22:38, Andrew Schulman wrote: > > If every maintainer would use cygport, it would allow us to change > > the build method to one along the lines of most Linux distros. > > In Linux distros, the maintainer provides only the spec file and > > the source archive. The actual build fo

Re: cygport limitations

2013-06-20 Thread Warren Young
On 6/20/2013 12:44, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: There should NEVER be a reason that you can't use cygport for your packages. If you're having an issue, just provide your (draft) cygport(5) and ask. Thanks for the offer. I've left myself a note to try this again for the next ctags release. I

Re: cygport limitations (was: Adding MSYS functionality to Cygwin)

2013-06-20 Thread Andrew Schulman
> If every maintainer would use cygport, it would allow us to change > the build method to one along the lines of most Linux distros. > In Linux distros, the maintainer provides only the spec file and > the source archive. The actual build for all supported platforms > could be done on

Re: cygport limitations

2013-06-20 Thread David Stacey
On 20/06/13 18:43, Warren Young wrote: The last doxygen package I shipped was a good example of this: 1. I had to pass "--platform linux-g++" to configure to get it to build correctly. (It might have been one of those cases where it saw #if WINDOWS == true and did the wrong thing.) I don't k

Re: cygport limitations

2013-06-20 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
On 2013-06-20 12:43, Warren Young wrote: I'm assuming everyone is using cygport now to create packages, or can't because of one of these violated expectations. My ctags package is one of the latter, because although it ships with a configure script, it isn't an autoconf configure script. When I

Re: cygport limitations (was: Adding MSYS functionality to Cygwin)

2013-06-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 20 11:43, Warren Young wrote: > On 6/19/2013 12:38, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: > >On 2013-06-19 12:57, Warren Young wrote: > >>You're not talking about anything different than the sort of thing > >>Cygwin package maintainers go through, sometimes needing to arm-twist > >>odd build systems to b

Re: cygport limitations (was: Adding MSYS functionality to Cygwin)

2013-06-20 Thread Warren Young
On 6/19/2013 12:38, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: On 2013-06-19 12:57, Warren Young wrote: You're not talking about anything different than the sort of thing Cygwin package maintainers go through, sometimes needing to arm-twist odd build systems to behave according to cygport's expectations? I thin