Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 11:20:16AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: > >>On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 09:57:44AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: > >>>Then strike the link text and limit it to the workaround of adding >>>the bin to the system path. My text was a suggested starting point.

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-30 Thread Jim Kleckner
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 09:57:44AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: Then strike the link text and limit it to the workaround of adding the bin to the system path. My text was a suggested starting point. i.e., a workaround. The solution that the DLL has to be in the system p

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 09:57:44AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: > >>On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 08:45:10AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: > >>So, if you're a Unix guy since 1978, that puts you in a unique category. >>You don't qualify as a FAQ. > >I don't quite understand this. I

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-30 Thread Jim Kleckner
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 08:45:10AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: So, if you're a Unix guy since 1978, that puts you in a unique category. You don't qualify as a FAQ. I don't quite understand this. I don't qualify to write FAQ entries or shouldn't be allowed to use them? I h

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 08:45:10AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: > >>On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 08:08:16AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: >> >>>Christopher Faylor wrote: >>> OTOH, perhaps I'm oversimplifying things, but it seems like this thread went on for quite a while af

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-30 Thread Jim Kleckner
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 08:08:16AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: OTOH, perhaps I'm oversimplifying things, but it seems like this thread went on for quite a while after the simple "delete the nonstandard DLL" advice was given. I don't see how any ad

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 08:08:16AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: >>OTOH, perhaps I'm oversimplifying things, but it seems like this thread >>went on for quite a while after the simple "delete the nonstandard DLL" >>advice was given. I don't see how any advice is going to be

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-30 Thread Jim Kleckner
Christopher Faylor wrote: OTOH, perhaps I'm oversimplifying things, but it seems like this thread went on for quite a while after the simple "delete the nonstandard DLL" advice was given. I don't see how any advice is going to be useful if it isn't followed. I agree completely. All the more reaso

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-30 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 09:31:50AM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >The idea of a "third party packager's guide" sounds good to me. I'd >rather have third parties not to pack Cygwin in their packages at all >and to point the user to install Cygwin from cygwin.com instead, but I >guess that's rather

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-29 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Mar 29 22:55, Larry Hall wrote: > At 05:49 PM 3/29/2005, you wrote: > >If there is interest, I am willing to take a crack at pulling > >together the information that is sprinkled in email threads > >about how to avoid trampling on existing cygwin installations. > > > >Eventually, there really sh

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-29 Thread Larry Hall
At 05:49 PM 3/29/2005, you wrote: >Larry Hall wrote: >> At 10:20 PM 3/24/2005, Brian Dessent wrote: >>> A symlink won't work, because it's Windows own loader that searches >>> for and loads any .DLLs called for by an .exe. Windows does not >>> understand symlinks as they are a Cygwin thing, so you

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-29 Thread Jim Kleckner
Larry Hall wrote: > At 10:20 PM 3/24/2005, Brian Dessent wrote: >> A symlink won't work, because it's Windows own loader that searches >> for and loads any .DLLs called for by an .exe. Windows does not >> understand symlinks as they are a Cygwin thing, so you can't >> symlink a DLL and expect it to

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Jim Kleckner wrote: > PS. Since cgf is steadfast, perhaps this explanation could be added to > the FAQ entry located here that partially explains why multiple dlls is > a problem: > http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_3.html#SEC50 We have a link for such applications:

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Larry Hall
At 10:20 PM 3/24/2005, you wrote: >Jim Kleckner wrote: > >> This is helpful, thank you. Being curious and trying to be minimal >> about changes >> to the system in question, I tried removing and linking the dll in >> place. I first tried >> "ln -s /bin/cygwin1.dll" in the clamwin/bin directory an

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Brian Dessent
Jim Kleckner wrote: > This is helpful, thank you. Being curious and trying to be minimal > about changes > to the system in question, I tried removing and linking the dll in > place. I first tried > "ln -s /bin/cygwin1.dll" in the clamwin/bin directory and wasn't > surprised that it > didn't wor

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 06:13:55PM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: >My question now is, can "ln" be used to work around this issue or is >that a "bad idea"? It's a bad idea. Just delete the spurious DLL. No special action is required if the cygwin dll is in the PATH. >PS. Since cgf is steadfast, p

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Jim Kleckner
Jim Kleckner wrote: This is helpful, thank you. Being curious and trying to be minimal about changes to the system in question, I tried removing and linking the dll in place. I first tried "ln -s /bin/cygwin1.dll" in the clamwin/bin directory and wasn't surprised that it didn't work. Being Unix

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Jim Kleckner
Larry Hall wrote: At 01:50 PM 3/24/2005, you wrote: I had a user install clamwin and as discussed on the list here: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-09/msg00288.html it blithely installs cygwin1.dll regardless of any installation of cygwin. This predictably causes problems. Searching t

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Larry Hall
At 01:50 PM 3/24/2005, you wrote: >I had a user install clamwin and as discussed on the list here: > http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-09/msg00288.html >it blithely installs cygwin1.dll regardless of any installation >of cygwin. This predictably causes problems. > >Searching through the us

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 10:50:07AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: >I had a user install clamwin and as discussed on the list here: >http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-09/msg00288.html it blithely >installs cygwin1.dll regardless of any installation of cygwin. This >predictably causes problems.

clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Jim Kleckner
I had a user install clamwin and as discussed on the list here: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-09/msg00288.html it blithely installs cygwin1.dll regardless of any installation of cygwin. This predictably causes problems. Searching through the user guide and faq doesn't yield a suggesti