Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread Dave Korn
On 05/04/2010 22:38, wefwef wefwef wrote: > I can't provide the log files, Each time I installed, I deleted the > previous install directories, so they are no longer available. So that means you still have the logfiles from the *current* install directories, right? And the ones from the sourc

RE: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread Karl M
> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:01:47 -0400 > From: cgf > To: cygwin > Subject: Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found > > On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 04:43:06PM -0700, Karl M wrote: >>If you wish to propose design changes to setup, then please identify >>particular behaviors tha

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 04:43:06PM -0700, Karl M wrote: >If you wish to propose design changes to setup, then please identify >particular behaviors that exist now and what you think should be done >instead. Actually, as much as I hate to do this, I have to point out that he already did this. He m

RE: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread Karl M
> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:38:04 +0300 > Subject: Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found > From: fromblewit > To: cygwin > > What you can't get your head round is that I'm talking about design, > and you're talking about bugs. The setup program may work as designed &

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread wefwef wefwef
>>You also can't see obvious flaws that are right in front of your face, >>even after they have been pointed out to you several times. > > That's not true.  You're complicating what could be a simple issue by > not providing the data that would allow us to fix any problem.  And, > you're mixing so

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 09:39:55PM +0300, wefwef wefwef wrote: >You also can't see obvious flaws that are right in front of your face, >even after they have been pointed out to you several times. That's not true. You're complicating what could be a simple issue by not providing the data that woul

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread Dave Korn
On 05/04/2010 19:39, wefwef wefwef wrote: > You also can't see obvious flaws that are right in front of your face, > even after they have been pointed out to you several times. Sigh, there's that word "obvious" again, as if the way you perceive things is absolute and objective and definitively

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread wefwef wefwef
>  You also proposed adding a feature it already has, a column telling you > whether a package is already installed or not.  This tells me that you > are not > calmly and dispassionately observing what is in front of your eyes. It doesn't have a column dedicated for this purpo

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread Dave Korn
On 05/04/2010 18:27, wefwef wefwef wrote: You also proposed adding a feature it already has, a column telling you whether a package is already installed or not. This tells me that you are not calmly and dispassionately observing what is in front of your eyes. >>> It doesn't h

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread wefwef wefwef
>>>  You also proposed adding a feature it already has, a column telling you >>> whether a package is already installed or not.  This tells me that you are >>> not >>> calmly and dispassionately observing what is in front of your eyes. >> It doesn't have a column dedicated for this purpose, that c

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread Dave Korn
On 05/04/2010 16:33, wefwef wefwef wrote: >> You also proposed adding a feature it already has, a column telling you >> whether a package is already installed or not. This tells me that you are >> not >> calmly and dispassionately observing what is in front of your eyes. > It doesn't have a col

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread wefwef wefwef
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Dave Korn wrote: > On 05/04/2010 16:04, wefwef wefwef wrote: > >>> On 05/04/2010 15:40, wefwef wefwef wrote: > The cygwin setup program has some obvious gui design flaws - a two year old can see that. It is a disaster from a usability point of view. >

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread Dave Korn
On 05/04/2010 16:04, wefwef wefwef wrote: >> On 05/04/2010 15:40, wefwef wefwef wrote: >>> The cygwin setup program has some obvious gui design flaws - a two >>> year old can see that. It is a disaster from a usability point of >>> view. > Refer to my earlier mail for the full details of what's

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread wefwef wefwef
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Dave Korn wrote: > On 05/04/2010 15:40, wefwef wefwef wrote: > >> Do you think it should pay attention to the existing installation when >> it is downloading to an entirely different directory to create an >> entirely separate installation? > >  That isn't how local

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread Dave Korn
On 05/04/2010 15:40, wefwef wefwef wrote: > Do you think it should pay attention to the existing installation when > it is downloading to an entirely different directory to create an > entirely separate installation? That isn't how local package cache dirs work. The purpose of setup.exe is to

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread wefwef wefwef
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Dave Korn wrote: > On 05/04/2010 13:43, wefwef wefwef wrote: > >> No, I was advised to do this to get round a nasty bug in the installer. > >  No, you were advised to do this to work around the fully correct behaviour > of the installer in that it pays attention to

RE: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread Jason Pyeron
Sorry for the accidental post a moment ago... > -Original Message- > From: Dave Korn > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:24 > Subject: Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found > > On 05/04/2010 13:43, wefwef wefwef wrote: > > > No, I was advised to do this to get

RE: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread Jason Pyeron
> -Original Message- > From: cygwin-ow...@cygwin.com > [mailto:cygwin-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Dave Korn > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:24 > To: cygwin@cygwin.com > Subject: Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found > > On 05/04/2010 13:43, wefwef wefwef

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread Dave Korn
On 05/04/2010 13:43, wefwef wefwef wrote: > No, I was advised to do this to get round a nasty bug in the installer. No, you were advised to do this to work around the fully correct behaviour of the installer in that it pays attention to your existing installation when you run it, exactly like i

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread wefwef wefwef
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Dave Korn wrote: > On 05/04/2010 10:22, wefwef wefwef wrote: >> This is what I did: >> renamed my current cygwin install directory to fool setup.exe into >> thinking it was a new installation > >  If you deliberately try and fool a piece of software, you generally g

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread Dave Korn
On 05/04/2010 10:22, wefwef wefwef wrote: > This is what I did: > renamed my current cygwin install directory to fool setup.exe into > thinking it was a new installation If you deliberately try and fool a piece of software, you generally get to keep the pieces when it breaks! By the way, you

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread wefwef wefwef
Yes, I clicked the top left to change from default to install, so that it would install everything that I had downloaded. On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Jason Pyeron wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: wefwef wefwef >> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 5:22 >> Su

RE: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread Jason Pyeron
> -Original Message- > From: wefwef wefwef > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 5:22 > Subject: Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found > > This is what I did: > renamed my current cygwin install directory to fool setup.exe > into thinking it was a new installation ran set

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread wefwef wefwef
This is what I did: renamed my current cygwin install directory to fool setup.exe into thinking it was a new installation ran setup, selected download without installing, from ftp.fit.vutbr.cz I left everything on default, and selected additionally vim, openssh, 7z, ping and rsync, by changing to t

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-04 Thread Dave Korn
On 03/04/2010 12:08, wefwef wefwef wrote: > I have downloaded the cygwin with all the defaults, plus a few extra > packages to a local directory, then copied this to another machine and > installed. - (Thanks to those who helped to get a minimal install, it > is now 80 MB) > > I am getting the err