Re: cygwin without Win32

2004-01-20 Thread Tim Hubberstey
--- Larry Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 07:12 PM 1/19/2004, Andrew DeFaria you wrote: > >Has anybody actually measured how many 9x/Me Cygwin > users there are compared with NT and greater? > > No, not that has been reported to this list anyway. It seems to me that if you want to get a fai

Re: cygwin without Win32

2004-01-20 Thread Sam Steingold
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to gmane.os.cygwin as well. > * Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-01-20 12:13:36 -0500]: > >>> > I wonder how close to an approximation of reality a simple >>> > poll/form on the cygwin.com front page would gen

RE: cygwin without Win32

2004-01-20 Thread Dave Korn
> -Original Message- > From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor > I guess I'll keep making the observation that any poll would > be worthless as long as people seem to be ignoring that fact > and still coming up with alternate ways of polling. AFAIC the discussion has long s

Re: cygwin without Win32

2004-01-20 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 08:23:47AM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Dave Korn wrote: > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: cygwin-ownercygwincom On Behalf Of Brian Dessent > ^^ >Hmmm? > >> > Larry Hall wrote: >> > >> > > >Has anybody

RE: cygwin without Win32

2004-01-20 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Dave Korn wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: cygwin-ownercygwincom On Behalf Of Brian Dessent ^^ Hmmm? > > Larry Hall wrote: > > > > > >Has anybody actually measured how many 9x/Me Cygwin users > > there are compared with NT

RE: cygwin without Win32

2004-01-20 Thread Dave Korn
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Dessent > Larry Hall wrote: > > > >Has anybody actually measured how many 9x/Me Cygwin users > there are compared with NT and greater? > > > > No, not that has been reported to this list anyway. > > I wonder how close

Re: cygwin without Win32

2004-01-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 11:21:41PM -0500, Pierre A. Humblet wrote: >On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 08:36:42PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >>On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 04:12:25PM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >>>Christopher Faylor wrote: There would certainly be a real detriment in the fact that cygwi

Re: cygwin without Win32

2004-01-19 Thread Pierre A. Humblet
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 08:36:42PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 04:12:25PM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote: > >Christopher Faylor wrote: > >>There would certainly be a real detriment in the fact that cygwin > >>would stop working for Windows 95/98/Me. If we could focus ju

Re: cygwin without Win32

2004-01-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 04:12:25PM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: >>There would certainly be a real detriment in the fact that cygwin >>would stop working for Windows 95/98/Me. If we could focus just on NT >>class systems, there is all sorts of improvements that we could

Re: cygwin without Win32

2004-01-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 04:41:13PM -0800, Brian Dessent wrote: >Larry Hall wrote: >>>Has anybody actually measured how many 9x/Me Cygwin users there are >>>compared with NT and greater? >> >>No, not that has been reported to this list anyway. > >I wonder how close to an approximation of reality a s

Re: cygwin without Win32

2004-01-19 Thread Brian Dessent
Larry Hall wrote: > >Has anybody actually measured how many 9x/Me Cygwin users there are compared with > >NT and greater? > > No, not that has been reported to this list anyway. I wonder how close to an approximation of reality a simple poll/form on the cygwin.com front page would generate? B

Re: cygwin without Win32

2004-01-19 Thread Larry Hall
At 07:12 PM 1/19/2004, Andrew DeFaria you wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: > >>On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 01:37:27PM -0700, Dax Kelson wrote: >> >>>The newly released Microsoft Services For Unix (SFU v3.5) includes a new "highly >>>tuned" POSIX subsystem. MS says that UNIX apps using the POSIX subsy

Re: cygwin without Win32

2004-01-19 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 01:37:27PM -0700, Dax Kelson wrote: The newly released Microsoft Services For Unix (SFU v3.5) includes a new "highly tuned" POSIX subsystem. MS says that UNIX apps using the POSIX subsystem are within 10% performance of Windows apps using the W

Re: Cygwin without Win32

2004-01-19 Thread Larry Hall
At 03:37 PM 1/19/2004, Dax Kelson you wrote: >The newly released Microsoft Services For Unix (SFU v3.5) includes a new >"highly tuned" POSIX subsystem. MS says that UNIX apps using the POSIX >subsystem are within 10% performance of Windows apps using the Win32 >subsystem. The security models also w

Re: cygwin without Win32

2004-01-19 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 01:37:27PM -0700, Dax Kelson wrote: >The newly released Microsoft Services For Unix (SFU v3.5) includes a new >"highly tuned" POSIX subsystem. MS says that UNIX apps using the POSIX >subsystem are within 10% performance of Windows apps using the Win32 >subsystem. The securit