Re: Anyone interrested in a package manager?

2010-05-14 Thread Ralph Hempel
Alexander T wrote: It would also be great to make your own repos and update cygwin locally from the repo, like the setup.exe 'local install' does, but then command-line based. So I'm wondering if there are any news on this front. Since you did a search back to 2003, I'm surprised you did not

Re: Setup.ini file for Silent Install

2010-03-26 Thread Ralph Hempel
Just for fun, I googled "ralph hempel cygwin mailing list archive" Guess what the first hit is? Ralph -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info:

Re: Setup.ini file for Silent Install

2010-03-26 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christoph Herdeg wrote: - Dave, thank so much you for posting setup.exe's command line switches. That was probably the 1st thing Jonathan did. - Christopher, thank you so much for telling the world how dumb everybody is, that doens't do something your way. - Ralf, thank you so much for posting

Re: Setup.ini file for Silent Install

2010-03-25 Thread Ralph Hempel
RESEND - NOW WITH SPELLING MISTAKES FIXED... Christoph Herdeg wrote: Hello Jonathan, I can't stand seeing this question come up every week again... Yes, this is definitely possible, but due to Cygwin's completely crappy installer (setup.exe) it's a real pain in the ass. Given is a destination d

Re: Setup.ini file for Silent Install

2010-03-25 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christoph Herdeg wrote: Hello Jonathan, I can't stand seeing this question come up every week again... Yes, this is definitely possible, but due to Cygwin's completely crappy installer (setup.exe) it's a real pain in the ass. Given is a destination directory of "c:\cygwin": - First you need to

Re: Cannot install cygwin on Win XP on VirtualBox

2010-01-25 Thread Ralph Hempel
Erez Zilber wrote: Hi, I'm running Win XP on VirtualBox on an Ubuntu machine. I'm trying to install the latest cygwin version (http://cygwin.com/setup.exe). I started the installation and selected 'Install from Internet'. Then, I expected to see a list of mirrors but it was empty. If I try the e

Re: 1.7 setup questions...

2009-11-12 Thread Ralph Hempel
Dave Korn wrote: Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: On 11/12/2009 12:46 PM, Ralph Hempel wrote: These three items are easily adressed with the command line options in setup, and by keeping track of the packages you have installed in a little text file. Without splitting hairs too finely, I don&#

Re: 1.7 setup questions...

2009-11-12 Thread Ralph Hempel
Linda Walsh wrote: 1) why does it re-ask me for my proxy and not remember my server choice each time I enter setup. 2) why does it maximize each time I enter the package choice? Ouch! hard on the eyes to have my entire screen filled with white! 3). How do I make the type larger? 6pt font is

Re: Broken autoconf mmap test (was Re: 1.7] BUG - GREP slows to a crawl with large number of matches on a single file)

2009-11-08 Thread Ralph Hempel
Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Nov 8 14:56, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Btw., the check for mmap in grep's configure file is broken. It tries to mmap to a fixed address formerly allocated via malloc(). This doesn't work on Windows. An autoconf run with a newer version of autoconf would be nice. I

Re: Parallel downloading of Cygwin packages

2009-10-30 Thread Ralph Hempel
Chris Cormie wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: I'd like the installer to use a more intuitive UI, be more capable of running from the command line, and be able to handle RPMs. http://code.google.com/p/cyg-apt/ (Command line installer project.) Doesn't handle RPMs, only Cygwin packages. Does h

Re: 1.7 unattended install

2009-10-11 Thread Ralph Hempel
paul.hermeneu...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps you or someone is already doing this, so my suggestion may be moot. For each package, could the package name be prefixed by an operator to indicate what action to take? + install - uninstall ~ reinstall ^ source --packages curl,-apache,+apache2,

Re: wise way to install cygwin packages

2009-10-08 Thread Ralph Hempel
Steven Woody wrote: so, to uninstall 1 package, what you did is actually download the other 99 packages? No, I have a local download directory that I keep current. To be precise, I installed the other packages from my local download directory. No additional internet bandwidth was harmed duri

Re: wise way to install cygwin packages

2009-10-08 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christopher Faylor wrote: It's on my todo list to get rid of the GUI pop-up from setup.exe when -P is used. I know that won't make it like rpm/yum/apt/dpkg/emerge. Not to put too fine a point on it but ... if I ever want to uninstall a package (rarely) here's what I do: 1. Rename my current

Re: wise way to install cygwin packages

2009-10-08 Thread Ralph Hempel
Ken Jackson wrote: I agree. And even for simple operations I find it a bother to have to start up a gui to install a package or check for updates. It would be great to have a command-line package management tool. For example, if yum were ported to Cygwin, for the case you cite, you could do th

Re: Assistance sought grepping log files

2009-10-01 Thread Ralph Hempel
Larry W. Virden wrote: I regularly am forced to deal with a variety of logfiles on Windows, and so in hopes of being able to do so with some grace, I took a crack at accessing the files via Cygwin. Larry, there's a Tcl package for Cygwin :-) Ralph -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/p

Re: cygdrive prefix

2009-09-17 Thread Ralph Hempel
Harald Joerg wrote: ... -- EXCEPT...at the end -- how many times do I have to tell setup that I *STILL* don't want the icon on my desktop??! I eventually got around that one. I found that I do not want *any* icons on my desktop and switched them off completely. There is an option in the "Sor

Re: setup.exe: Determine Geographically closest mirror programmatically

2009-09-16 Thread Ralph Hempel
Dr. Christoph Gille wrote: Closest mirror? I'm not sure what you mean by this. 'setup.exe' does not require this as a setting. Actually, there is no such concept. You need to specify a mirror to work with but you can do that with '-s'. With each superfluous click I lose a user, so it would

Re: Cron jobs visible

2009-08-10 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 02:54:28PM -0400, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: On 08/10/2009 12:44 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: And there's no way back after an update. But as I noted in my zillion (apparently unread) test announcements, it's no problem to run 1.5 and 1.7 ins

Re: setup.exe arguments missing documentation

2009-08-09 Thread Ralph Hempel
Ian Kelling wrote: Excerpt from ./setup-1.7.exe --help: -P --packages Specify packages to install -l --local-package-dir Local package directory I know from the faq that -l takes an argument of the package directory. This should be expressed in the --hel

Re: mintty doesn't run on NT4 due to lack of GetConsoleWindow

2009-08-06 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christopher Faylor wrote: (And to be honest I don't see the point in Cygwin 1.7 still supporting NT4. Anyone willing to stick with an OS that's been unsupported for five years should be more than happy to stick with Cygwin 1.5.) I know it's unsupported but people still use it and, perhaps more

Re: close on exec atomics

2009-07-21 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christopher Faylor wrote: Coincidentally, enough, I've been thinking about reworking it lately after having to deal with it for firos. Is that the new "first-in random-out" data structure I've been hearing about lately? Ralph -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ:

Re: Trouble creating crontab

2009-07-16 Thread Ralph Hempel
Will Parsons wrote: Is there no way of just creating the file without using crontab -e? Sure. I've been editing crontabs for years and have never once used crontab -e. What I do: crontab -l > crontab.lst edit crontab.lst crontab crontab.lst I always just use the toggle switches on the front

Re: (gold star) Re: "ssh-host-config" now involves "cygwin-service-installation-helper.sh"

2009-07-16 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:54:58AM -0400, Ralph Hempel wrote: Christoph Herdeg wrote: Hey what's up with you? Wasn't my message nice or informative enough for you? I thought my description would be helpful and you guys were interested in optimizing packages.

Re: "ssh-host-config" now involves "cygwin-service-installation-helper.sh"

2009-07-16 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christoph Herdeg wrote: Hey what's up with you? Wasn't my message nice or informative enough for you? I thought my description would be helpful and you guys were interested in optimizing packages. Obviously I am wrong: I'm not sure how cgf and Corinna manage to move let alone type with the t

Re: MVFS results

2009-07-16 Thread Ralph Hempel
Dave Korn wrote: Corinna Vinschen wrote: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/downloads/r/rcc/?S_TACT=105AGX28&S_CMP=DLMAIN Been there. It's a remote trial over Web Browser for 3 hours. BWAAhahahahhhaahahaa! Remote trial in a web browser? For 3 hours? Are they kidding? It's like som

Re: setup-1.7.exe command line options

2009-06-23 Thread Ralph Hempel
Ralph Hempel wrote: Andy Koppe wrote: Where can I find documentation on the setup-1.7.exe command line options, in particular the one for installing packages without invoking the GUI that I think was added last year? I had a look in all the places I could think of, but without success, and

Re: setup-1.7.exe command line options

2009-06-23 Thread Ralph Hempel
Andy Koppe wrote: Where can I find documentation on the setup-1.7.exe command line options, in particular the one for installing packages without invoking the GUI that I think was added last year? I had a look in all the places I could think of, but without success, and invoking setup with -h, -

Re: find(1) assertion for folder with a sub-folder named `x:'

2009-06-23 Thread Ralph Hempel
Phil Betts wrote: mkdir -p foo/c: cd foo rm -rf c:/ In case you can't see why that's bad, DON'T TRY IT!! Don't even copy it, because you will accidentally paste it into a terminal window, you will get to say "oopsy!" [1], and you will hurt your forehead on your keyboard. [OT] I have a wo

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] [1.7] Updated: cygwin-1.7.0-50

2009-06-19 Thread Ralph Hempel
Mark Harig wrote: While running setup-1.7.exe (with no arguments) from a cygwin 1.5 bash shell prompt, the following (error?) messages were displayed: I think the only argument you'll get is that you're not supposed to run setup while Cygwin is running. Ralph -- Unsubscribe info: http:/

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] [1.7] Updated setup-1.7.exe (2.629)

2009-06-19 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christopher Faylor wrote: Hopefully this is the end of the "How can I customize setup.ini to make it easier to get the packages I want" discussion. I wrote a program in SNOBOL to do this! It is awesome! Did you have to refer to the big green book? Ralph -- Unsubscribe info: http://cy

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] [1.7] Updated setup-1.7.exe (2.629)

2009-06-19 Thread Ralph Hempel
Corinna Vinschen wrote: I just uploaded another new setup-1.7.exe (2.629) to http://cygwin.com/setup-1.7.exe, which contains the following changes and bug fixes: - Add support for both -D and -L on the command line. I just tested this and can confirm that it works. No more invoking "setup -P"

Re: Is there a script to remove old packages from local disk

2009-06-17 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christopher Faylor wrote: I think setup really should just delete the files when it is done with them if you choose "install from internet" "install from internet" != "install from local directory" Ah, now I understand why I was jumping to conclusions. Thanks for clearing that up. And contra

Re: Is there a script to remove old packages from local disk

2009-06-17 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 08:39:05AM -0400, Ralph Hempel wrote: Whenever the next round of changes to setup happens, and the talk gets around to "Removing the Download to Local Directory" or "Should we Delete the Downloaded Files", please consider

Re: Is there a script to remove old packages from local disk

2009-06-17 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christopher Faylor wrote: That's what I meant, yes. I think many people don't understand that those files don't need to be there and since we advocate using just the straight install from internet, we probably should be nice and delete the files. Whenever the next round of changes to setup ha

Re: Is there a script to remove old packages from local disk

2009-06-16 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christopher Faylor wrote: But those folders do fill up with old cruft after a while. But you wouldn't want to keep different versions of bz2 files around in that case. Right. But I do want to keep only the most current versions. Not to belabour the point, but if you do a "Download to local

Re: Is there a script to remove old packages from local disk

2009-06-16 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christopher Faylor wrote: You can just rm -r all of the directories that setup creates when installing packages. There is no reason to keep any of them around. I think he's talking about the old versions of the .bz2 files that live in the local download folders. I may have a similar usage pa

Re: Can I install cygwin from my own setup.ini?

2009-06-12 Thread Ralph Hempel
Pan ruochen wrote: Well, I was always confused in selecting/deselecting packages during setup. And I often got the information about some package is required by another in the final step. So I decided to try patching the setup source code to make the setup more easy for me (and maybe for other pe

Re: Combining -D and -L on setup command line

2009-06-03 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:44:52PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:37:09PM -0400, Ralph Hempel wrote: I see that the patch to support both is in CVS as version 2.18.6.1 but not in 2.19 (HEAD) Is this an oversight or do I just need to wait

Re: Combining -D and -L on setup command line

2009-06-03 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christopher Faylor wrote: I see that the patch to support both is in CVS as version 2.18.6.1 but not in 2.19 (HEAD) Is this an oversight or do I just need to wait until the streams get merged? It's an oversight. What is the ChangeLog entry for this change? File: cygwin-apps/setup/source.

Re: Can I install cygwin from my own setup.ini?

2009-06-03 Thread Ralph Hempel
Or you can just use the -P option from the setup command line and get exactly the packages you want! Ralph -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ:

Combining -D and -L on setup command line

2009-06-03 Thread Ralph Hempel
I had the opportunity to test the latest cygwin-1.7 today after my USB stick got trashed. Using setup 2.625 the combination of -D -L on the command line does not result in the expected "download and install" operation. I have to run setup twice, once with -D to download to pull the files into a

Re: [1.7] Question: running from a portable drive

2009-04-29 Thread Ralph Hempel
Fergus wrote: I run both [1.5] and [1.7] off portable drives plugged into whatever host machine I'm using. Can I write /etc/fstab more generally so that [1.7], like [1.5], can be made to run off a portable drive without needing to specify (or even know) the driveletter allocated by the host

Re: GREP: Memory Exhausted

2009-04-14 Thread Ralph Hempel
Dave Korn wrote: Shailesh Dadure wrote: Hello All, I am a support engineer from Microsoft trying to help my Customer Maziyar Samadzadeh. We have been notified by Maziyar that when they perform a Query on a bigger database using GREP we get the following error Would you like to use one of yo

Re: Setup scripting.

2009-03-27 Thread Ralph Hempel
Jason Pyeron wrote: http://www.cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/setup-net.html says: "Unfortunately setup.exe does not yet support unattended installs." < snip> Is kludging the package list file the best way to go? The HEAD of the setup tree does support unattended scripted installs of whatever pac

Re: problem with make-3.81

2009-02-27 Thread Ralph Hempel
y???...@f??f.fr wrote: Apologies for not mangling the email address in my other response to that note. Turns out that if you make your email address the display name, then it forces the person sending a reply to do extra work so that your email address isn't visible everywhere. Ralph -- U

Re: problem with make-3.81

2009-02-27 Thread Ralph Hempel
ycol...@freesurf.fr wrote: If you want make to understand MinGW paths generated by a MinGW compiler, you should use a MinGW make, not a Cygwin make. Is there any mingw make shipped with cygwin ? I can't find one in my current installation ... I think Dave wants you to get the mingw-make fro

Re: Setup - command line only

2009-02-23 Thread Ralph Hempel
Kevin and Nancy wrote: Ok, I take it back. "setup.exe -q" will work on an SSH remote connection. It remains to be seen if it actually updates packages, but a GUI setup display did not appear on the the local Windows display with a remotely invoked "setup.exe -q". Thus, I question if "setup.e

Re: Setup - command line only

2009-02-22 Thread Ralph Hempel
Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: Ralph Hempel wrote: Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: No, it's only the 289th time, which probably accounts for why you couldn't find it with Google. ;-) These kinds of features are missing from 'setup.exe' because there hasn't been a volunteer

Re: Setup - command line only

2009-02-22 Thread Ralph Hempel
Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: No, it's only the 289th time, which probably accounts for why you couldn't find it with Google. ;-) These kinds of features are missing from 'setup.exe' because there hasn't been a volunteer contributor for them. If you're interested in contributing something, see the

Re: Conjoining Setup & CygWine & Some Other Requirements.

2009-02-15 Thread Ralph Hempel
Duane Ellis wrote: I and others have asked for the ability to specify a "group of packages to install" setup -p comma,separated,list,of,packages Ralph -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation:

Re: Cygwin 1.7 Does not work

2009-02-12 Thread Ralph Hempel
Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you're trying to run a Linux system on a Windows machine, why not download the FREE VMWare Server 2.0 and install Linux as a VM? You can give the VM a couple of virtual network adapters and use one for a host-only network and the other for connectins on y

Re: CygWine 1.0 Beta -- an new cygwin package manager

2009-02-12 Thread Ralph Hempel
Dave Korn wrote: I'm taking a quick browse through the code. I see that you've based it on chunks of the core setup.exe code, somewhat refactored and restructured. I wonder if we couldn't merge the two codebases, in such a way that there's one common 'setup engine' with a couple of alternati

Re: RFE?: CygWinDir in ENV? (was Re: How does one find where Cygwin was installed from Windows?)

2009-02-10 Thread Ralph Hempel
Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: This can be done now, if you look back through the thread to all the different options I outlined and even a few scripts others have thrown in. What Linda is proposing here is simply having the mechanism for communicating this be an environment variable. While this c

Re: How does one find "cygdrive path" in a Win ".bat" file (was Re: Bug in "startXwin.bat")

2009-02-09 Thread Ralph Hempel
Here's how I do it in a little batch file that I put on my USB pen drive: It's in the attached .TXT file - you'll need to rename it to .BAT Note that this batch file will OVERWRITE your fstab so please review it before installing and using it on your system. Basically, it lets me carry Cygwin o

Re: RFD: cygwin + *native* MinGW compiler

2009-01-28 Thread Ralph Hempel
Charles Wilson wrote: Pursuant to a discussion on the libtool list, I'm trying to get a feel for how many cygwin users rely on the cygwin environment to drive the *native* MinGW gcc compiler. That is, incantations like this: I find myself bouncing around between cygwin and mingw because each

Re: Cygwin struct alignment

2008-12-29 Thread Ralph Hempel
John Emmas wrote: Christopher / Reini - thanks for your tips. John, here's a quote from your original email: > As things stand, both client and server use System V shared memory and > everything works well if I compile under Cygwin or Linux. Ultimately > however, there'll be no Linux clients.

Re: Cygwin struct alignment

2008-12-24 Thread Ralph Hempel
John Emmas wrote: Actually, this is turning out to be slightly more complicated than I thought. Member alignment for very simple structs seems to correlate pretty well but more complex structs cause subtle (though hopefully not insurmountable) problems.. Is it possible (in Cygwin) to disab

Re: Rationale for line-ending recommendation?

2008-12-22 Thread Ralph Hempel
Linus Hicks wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Yeah, right, if this were in fact the 21st century, why would we ever have to deal with a 30 year old, idiotic-from-the-start text file format using two line ending chars? How quickly we forget... Great summary! I

Re: cygwin and cygwin-xfree lists to merge

2008-12-11 Thread Ralph Hempel
Andrew Schulman wrote: increase in email traffic for people who just want to hear about cygwin/x. ... or just want not to. I've got my email client (Thunderbird) set to move messages from mailing lists that I subscribe to into different folders based on the To: field. I'm probably not the on

Re: Cygwin suddenly prohibitively slow (conflicts?)

2008-11-13 Thread Ralph Hempel
Barnhart, Robert M. wrote: I suspect a couple of things that might be affecting cygwin since yesterday: 1) I installed VMware Player 2.5.0 build-118166, but have not run it yet. 2) I loaded a VM image of about ~30GB onto my hard drive, but did not execute it. 3) Our company (SAIC) may be remot

Re: cygwin g++ strictness

2008-11-01 Thread Ralph Hempel
Gary R. Van Sickle wrote: From: Eric Blake It is not portable to platforms with 16-bit int (although these days, such platforms are museumware). That, or: - Running your car's engineware. - Exploding an airbag into your face on detecting a collisionware. - Recording your vital signsware. - P

Re: Cygwin setup.exe via the cygwin shell

2008-10-31 Thread Ralph Hempel
Thrall, Bryan wrote: For example (untested), to install vim and bc: setup.exe -d -q -R 'c:\cygwin' -s 'http://mirrors.xmission.com/cygwin/' -l 'c:\cygwin\home\thrall' -P vim,bc I'm not sure, but I _think_ the -P is only available in the 1.7 setup. The -D and -L options are not specified in y

Re: cygwin g++ strictness

2008-10-31 Thread Ralph Hempel
John Emmas wrote: Is there a simple solution to this? In general, no. Writing portable code is hard and requires quite a bit of thought and perhaps more importantly, experience. First, use the strictest possible warning setting on the compiler and strive for warning free compiles. Then what

Re: Compile time Local Cygwin vs. VMware session on same system

2008-10-20 Thread Ralph Hempel
Manning, Sid wrote: I appreciate everyone's insight and I will definitely checkout Mecklenburg's make book to get hard stats on the differences. Mecklenburg's book is much better put to use as the definitive reference for make :-) Chapter 10 "Improving the Performance of make" pp182-195 is wh

Re: Compile time Local Cygwin vs. VMware session on same system

2008-10-20 Thread Ralph Hempel
Mark J. Reed wrote: Long story short, this is probably not so much a Cygwin issue as general Windows issue... No, I think that's going too far. It's a mismatch between the Windows and UNIX process models, and the fact that compilation via make(1) is optimized for the latter. Agreed. I was

Re: Compile time Local Cygwin vs. VMware session on same system

2008-10-20 Thread Ralph Hempel
Manning, Sid wrote: I've been happily using cygwin for many years but I recently loaded VMware on my system and it seemed pretty snappy, so much so I decided to see how it compared to native execution. I was surprised to see that I could compile much faster under VMware than on Cygwin on the sam

Re: cygwin1.7 release date

2008-10-18 Thread Ralph Hempel
Eric Blake wrote: Whats the official release date for cygwin1.7( also QT4,QWT5.. ). Please let me know When it's good and ready. Read the archives; this is a volunteer process, so no one is getting paid to make a release by a certain date (although before the end of this year would has been

Re: Strange crash for application linked to cygwin libraries.

2008-10-14 Thread Ralph Hempel
Peter Ross wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Mark Geisert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Peter Ross writes: I've written an application which does some initialization and then does a tcp accept. 5 minutes and 20 seconds give or take after doing the tcp.accept the application aborts with exi

Re: Problem to open big selfextracting Zip files from bash - starting from scratch :-)

2008-10-10 Thread Ralph Hempel
Reid Thompson wrote: Dirk Napierala wrote: , but what I do not understand is that after we found that only replacing the dll cause the prob and fix it again when reverted, why isn't that enough to troubleshoot the dll now? Also because it does not work with the 1.7 version. I think if you'll g

Re: cygwin-1.7: mv appends .exe extension to .bat and .com files

2008-10-09 Thread Ralph Hempel
Eric Blake wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 According to Corinna Vinschen on 10/9/2008 7:05 AM: Install seems to strip the .exe extension in the process of copying files to the destination directory. Install *copies* files. The resulting filename is not under control of Cy

Re: cygwin-1.7: mv appends .exe extension to .bat and .com files

2008-10-09 Thread Ralph Hempel
Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Oct 2 11:01, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Oct 1 09:27, Herb Maeder wrote: With a fresh install of cygwin-1.7 on a vanilla Vista system, I see that the 'mv' command appends a .exe extension to the destination file for any source files that have a .bat or .com extension

Re: [OT] RE: Cygwin bash

2008-10-07 Thread Ralph Hempel
Dave Korn wrote: Mark J. Reed wrote on 07 October 2008 14:30: While you can copy and paste with the standard "DOS box" window, it is not easy, and copying is especially laborious. It requires an extra step (you have to go into "mark mode" via Edit->Mark before you can select anything);

Re: install assumes.exe extension?

2008-10-07 Thread Ralph Hempel
DePriest, Jason R. wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Ralph Hempel <> wrote: I'd just like to clear up some confusion on my part about "install" as distributed with Cygwin. Does this help? http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-specialnames.html#id318321 Ye

install assumes.exe extension?

2008-10-06 Thread Ralph Hempel
I'd just like to clear up some confusion on my part about "install" as distributed with Cygwin. I'm building Lua, an MIT licensed scripting language. Part of the lua "make install" process calls install as follows: cd src && install -p -m 0755 lua luac /usr/local/bin And sure enough, lua and l

Re: make script not working with Cygwin 1.5.25-14 (with Perl)

2008-09-01 Thread Ralph Hempel
Nose wrote: Hello everybody! I've got a makescript which doesn't run with the new cygwin version. When I switch back to the new cygwin version nothing seems to be the matter but when I switch to the new version things are getting weird. As Groucho Marx might have said on this list: "Then d

Re: printf: %ls or %S does not work when string is of length 1.

2008-08-28 Thread Ralph Hempel
Jason Tishler wrote: If you are going to release another Cygwin 1.5, would you be willing to back port this fix? Otherwise, Python 3.0 will not be able to run under Cygwin 1.5. And the madness begins Ralph -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem report

Re: Cygwin compiler and linker options

2008-08-22 Thread Ralph Hempel
Warren Young wrote: Ralph Hempel wrote: what I think I hear you saying is that when -mno-cygwin is fully deprecated I'll need to build a cross compiler for native Windows executables Or, you could install MinGW. Cygwin and MinGW will coexist, side by side, without conflict, if you ar

Re: Cygwin compiler and linker options

2008-08-22 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christopher Faylor wrote: . As one of "those people" I wonder if it will still be possible to generate executables that do not depend on cygwin DLLs using cygwin's gcc? No, we're changing the laws of the universe to make this a physical impossibility. At your first attempt to generate a mingw

Re: Cygwin compiler and linker options

2008-08-22 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christopher Faylor wrote: Phil is 100% correct here. It's heartening to see someone so thoroughly getting it after having to so frequently deal with the misconceptions about -mno-cygwin. Confusion about -mwindows is new though. I'm counting the days until -mno-cygwin disappears. It is a blig

Re: Cygwin compiler and linker options

2008-08-22 Thread Ralph Hempel
Phil Betts wrote: It would be nice if the cygwin-specific options were documented in the gcc info file, but they don't appear to be. Don't expect -mno-cygwin to appear there soon either, because my understanding is that the -mno-cygwin option will be removed soon because of the surprising num

Re: Cygwin 1.7 on a FLASH Drive

2008-08-21 Thread Ralph Hempel
Albrecht Schlosser wrote: Ralph Hempel wrote: mount -f -s -b "d:\my_home" "/home/username" and umount after you are done with it ? That sounds more like what I want. I really do know how to do all of this under Linux. The main reason I'm asking the question here

Re: Cygwin 1.7 on a FLASH Drive

2008-08-20 Thread Ralph Hempel
Dave Korn wrote: Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote on 20 August 2008 19:22: Ralph Hempel wrote: Is there a way to create a symlink of a directory on a local hard drive to the cygwin /home/username/ directory? No, not across volumes. Huh? I must be misunderstanding what you mean here: / $ df

Re: Cygwin 1.7 on a FLASH Drive

2008-08-20 Thread Ralph Hempel
Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: Ralph Hempel wrote: Yes, I've read the FAQ on making Cygwin portable :-) I'd like to have a complete Cygwin environment on a FLASH drive, but of course using that drive to compile stuff in my HOME directory will be awfully slow. Why is that? Crea

Cygwin 1.7 on a FLASH Drive

2008-08-20 Thread Ralph Hempel
Yes, I've read the FAQ on making Cygwin portable :-) I'd like to have a complete Cygwin environment on a FLASH drive, but of course using that drive to compile stuff in my HOME directory will be awfully slow. Is there a way to create a symlink of a directory on a local hard drive to the cygwin /

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: vim-7.2-1

2008-08-11 Thread Ralph Hempel
Corinna Vinschen wrote: I have updated the version of vim on cygwin.com to 7.2-1. There is no 16-bit DOS version, the executable is too big to fit in the limited memory space. I guess Bill Gates was wrong :-) Note that I'm not bashing Microsoft here, I'm just amused because I've got more RA

Re: Download Cygwin once and intall it several times

2008-07-28 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christopher Faylor wrote: Using setup.exe for this task makes me think that people believe setup.exe is doing something mysterious. It really isn't. Even if you wanted to go to the effort of unpacking tar.bz2 files you could still do it all with bash, tar, and mount, avoiding setup.exe entirel

Re: Download Cygwin once and intall it several times

2008-07-28 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christopher Faylor wrote: For the time being, you should be able to dump the mount table to a .bat file with "mount -m" and then run the .bat on the system that has the copied installation. This technique probably won't work in Cygwin 1.7.x when it is released, though. Funny enough, this is t

setup.exe for 1.7 and patches?

2008-07-21 Thread Ralph Hempel
Starting a new thread from an email from about a month ago... I've got a series of three patches from Reini as follows: For reference: The current three command-line patches at the tracker are all against current HEAD and should applied in the following order: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src/cygwi

Re: Running fontforge.exe does nothing

2008-06-24 Thread Ralph Hempel
David Spector wrote: (I won't waste space including your message of June 24, 2008 1:40 PM, since it's in the archive. Why does cygwin use the mailing list approach, instead of an online forum? Seems awkward, since we have to receive all messages instead of subscribing to or browsing the categ

Re: setup.exe command line parameters

2008-06-23 Thread Ralph Hempel
Christopher Faylor wrote: If you are going to be discussing setup development you should subscribe to the cygwin-apps mailing list. I can't speak for the setup.exe developers but I suspect that you should be just using the CVS head for all of your development. Here's a case of a topic morphin

Re: setup.exe command line parameters

2008-06-23 Thread Ralph Hempel
Ralph Hempel wrote: Bad form, I know, but let me make the following sentence at least readable... Sorry for taking so long, but here's what we have so far. The "newer" patch referred to by Reini is against 2.590 which looks like it's > about 2 point releases behind the

Re: setup.exe command line parameters

2008-06-23 Thread Ralph Hempel
Dave Korn wrote: Well, it needs a little debugging first, but it shouldn't be tricky to bash into shape. Sorry for taking so long, but here's what we have so far. The "newer" patch referred to by Reini is against but the patch is against 2.590 which looks like it's a bout 2 point releases be

Re: setup.exe command line parameters

2008-06-23 Thread Ralph Hempel
Dave Korn wrote: As it turns out that's the same patch by the same author only in an earlier stage of development! We'll go with the later version :) Sorry if I'm trimming too much from the msgs... Are you saying that the patch pointed to by Reini is ready to be integrated into the curren

Re: setup.exe command line parameters

2008-06-22 Thread Ralph Hempel
Reini Urban wrote: You mean the patch from http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.cygwin.applications/16502 ? I meant this one: Ralph -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.co

Re: setup.exe command line parameters

2008-06-21 Thread Ralph Hempel
Dave Korn wrote: That being said, I CAN run setup.exe in unattended quiet mode and get a BASE cygwin install done, and I'm quite happy with that. But I'd really, really like to specify packages on the command line. Can I help by offering to update the patch to the current setup? Absolutely,

Re: setup.exe command line parameters

2008-06-20 Thread Ralph Hempel
cuicui wrote: You need to modify the "setup.ini" file, create "virtual" (empty) package that belongs to the "Base" category and make all the additional packages you want dependant of this virtual package by filling the "requires" field. Ok, so how do you keep the setup.ini from being downloade

setup.exe command line parameters

2008-06-20 Thread Ralph Hempel
With all of the talk about setup package selection and install procedures, I have a little story. One of the things I do for fun is write replacement firmware for the LEGO MINDSTORMS NXT - specifically pbLua. I needed an easy way to build the ARM7 cross compiler, and to locate and program the NXT

Re: 1.5.25: Random segfaults in unix tools

2008-06-04 Thread Ralph Hempel
Dave Korn wrote: Jamie Cole wrote on 04 June 2008 12:56: Also we have an identical physical (e.g. non VMWare) machine running the same tools and version of Cygwin which does not seg fault. Is it possible there is a actually a bug in Cygwin which is causing these problems when running on a virtu

Re: Ksh

2008-05-19 Thread Ralph Hempel
Mark J. Reed wrote: On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Ralph Hempel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OT, and probably a stupid question, but is the Dave Korn on this list the same Dave Korn that, ummm, wrote the Korn shell? Nope. And I used to wonder the same thing, so it can't possibly

Re: Ksh

2008-05-18 Thread Ralph Hempel
Mark J. Reed wrote: You can also get UWIN there, as an alternative to Cygwin, which includes ksh. Thank you, Mr. Korn. OT, and probably a stupid question, but is the Dave Korn on this list the same Dave Korn that, ummm, wrote the Korn shell? Cheers, Ralph -- Unsubscribe info: http://cy

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