Re: rxvt problem: Prompt doesn't look very nice

2005-03-24 Thread Brian Dessent
Mikael wrote: > Thanks Michael. I am using the CVS-version (dated early febraury) of Emacs. > I removed the lines I added to my .bashrc and added what you showed to my > .emacs. Now my bash shell inside emacs looks nice (and in color), but it's > not perfect. Here it is: > > ]0;c:/cygwin/home/mi

Re: recv and errno during a connection reset/closed by peer

2005-03-24 Thread Joris van der Sande
Peter, This works for me: /* Detect dead connections */ int keepalive = 1 ; r = setsockopt(sock, SOL_SOCKET, SO_KEEPALIVE, (char *)&keepalive, sizeof(keepalive)) ; recv() will now return ECONNABORTED when the host disconnects. Best regards, Joris --

Cygwin Dlls

2005-03-24 Thread Ravi Prasad
Hi group, I am using cygwin for tinyos. I installed Tinyos1.1.0 in directory C:\tinyos\ and later upgraded to 1.1.7. I have installed arm-gcc from http://www.gnuarm.com/bu-2.15_gcc-3.4.3-c-c++-java_nl-1.12.0_gi-6.1.exe to the directory C:\tinyos\cygwin\arm-gcc\GNUARM Now the problem starts:

Re: recv and errno during a connection reset/closed by peer

2005-03-24 Thread Brian Dessent
Peter Stephens wrote: > When in non-blocking mode I thought I would be able to get a return from > recv of '-1' and then check errno, but it never seems to be anything but > '11', or EAGAIN. This seems to be true whether I MSG_PEEK or not. > > I have included my code below. The intention is tha

Re: rxvt problem: Prompt doesn't look very nice

2005-03-24 Thread Mikael
"Michael Mauger" wrote: > Mikael writes: >> "Jonathan Arnold" wrote: >> > Mikael wrote: >> >> Hello, I just tried rxvt because I wanted to replace the hopeless cmd >> >> window. However, the "prompt" (not sure that is the correct word) >> >> doesn't >> >> look very nice, here it is copied and pas

recv and errno during a connection reset/closed by peer

2005-03-24 Thread Peter Stephens
I am writing a program to handle messages on a TCP/CONNECTION based setup. I have verified that I can receive the messages I want, both blocking and non-blocking. I want to be in non-blocking mode. When in blocking mode I can detect a loss of the connection simply by waiting for a return of '0' f

Re: Postgres 7.2

2005-03-24 Thread Larry Hall
At 10:53 PM 3/24/2005, you wrote: >Larry -- You've partially diagnosed my problem for me. > >Here's what's going on (in detail): > >But, since PROD is working fine (v. 7.2), I want to get DEV running again >with the same (7.2) version. Once that's done and I understand the setup >in the DEV

Re: Netscape or Mozilla binaries for Cygwin?

2005-03-24 Thread Larry Hall
At 10:43 PM 3/24/2005, you wrote: >Hello: > > I was just wondering if there are any binaries for >Netscape or Mozilla for Cygwin? Neither are available from Cygwin mirrors via 'setup.exe'. There has been some discussion in the past about building Mozilla with Cygwin. You can Google for info o

Re: Postgres 7.2

2005-03-24 Thread Zeb
Larry -- You've partially diagnosed my problem for me. Here's what's going on (in detail): I've taken over admin on development (DEV) and production (PROD) boxes for a small website. DEV is W2K and PROD is Linux. The app running on the servers in Java-based, and it connects to a Postgres DB.

Netscape or Mozilla binaries for Cygwin?

2005-03-24 Thread Michael Yanowitz
Hello: I was just wondering if there are any binaries for Netscape or Mozilla for Cygwin? Thanks in advance: -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ:

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Jim Kleckner wrote: > PS. Since cgf is steadfast, perhaps this explanation could be added to > the FAQ entry located here that partially explains why multiple dlls is > a problem: > http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_3.html#SEC50 We have a link for such applications:

Re: Postgres 7.2

2005-03-24 Thread Larry Hall
At 10:15 PM 3/24/2005, you wrote: >I've taken over as admin on a box which is running Postgres 7.2 under >Cygwin. I seem to have a problem with the installation. > >I don't want to upgrade to the latest version of Postgres (7.4.5) until I >can get the details of the current (7.2) installation so

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Larry Hall
At 10:20 PM 3/24/2005, you wrote: >Jim Kleckner wrote: > >> This is helpful, thank you. Being curious and trying to be minimal >> about changes >> to the system in question, I tried removing and linking the dll in >> place. I first tried >> "ln -s /bin/cygwin1.dll" in the clamwin/bin directory an

Postgres 7.2

2005-03-24 Thread Zeb Agha
I've taken over as admin on a box which is running Postgres 7.2 under Cygwin. I seem to have a problem with the installation. I don't want to upgrade to the latest version of Postgres (7.4.5) until I can get the details of the current (7.2) installation sorted out. Can anyone tell me how I can

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Brian Dessent
Jim Kleckner wrote: > This is helpful, thank you. Being curious and trying to be minimal > about changes > to the system in question, I tried removing and linking the dll in > place. I first tried > "ln -s /bin/cygwin1.dll" in the clamwin/bin directory and wasn't > surprised that it > didn't wor

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 06:13:55PM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: >My question now is, can "ln" be used to work around this issue or is >that a "bad idea"? It's a bad idea. Just delete the spurious DLL. No special action is required if the cygwin dll is in the PATH. >PS. Since cgf is steadfast, p

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Jim Kleckner
Jim Kleckner wrote: This is helpful, thank you. Being curious and trying to be minimal about changes to the system in question, I tried removing and linking the dll in place. I first tried "ln -s /bin/cygwin1.dll" in the clamwin/bin directory and wasn't surprised that it didn't work. Being Unix

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Jim Kleckner
Larry Hall wrote: At 01:50 PM 3/24/2005, you wrote: I had a user install clamwin and as discussed on the list here: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-09/msg00288.html it blithely installs cygwin1.dll regardless of any installation of cygwin. This predictably causes problems. Searching t

Re: rxvt problem: Prompt doesn't look very nice

2005-03-24 Thread Jonathan Arnold
Michael Mauger wrote: If you are using Emacs >=21.1; try the following elisp (add-hook 'comint-mode-hook 'ansi-color-for-comint-mode-on) You should see the colors properly in emacs. (Essentially Emacs interprets the escape sequences and emulates them with the appropriate emacs features.) How s

Re: rxvt problem: Prompt doesn't look very nice

2005-03-24 Thread Michael Mauger
Mikael writes: > "Jonathan Arnold" wrote: > > Mikael wrote: > >> Hello, I just tried rxvt because I wanted to replace the hopeless cmd > >> window. However, the "prompt" (not sure that is the correct word) doesn't > >> look very nice, here it is copied and pasted: > >> \[\033]0;\w\007 > >> \033[3

Re: EFS encrypted files & ssh

2005-03-24 Thread Lapo Luchini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris January wrote: >>Is it normal that during an SSH connection EFS-encrypted >>files are not >>accessible? >>Is it for the way the SSH token autentication is made? > Yes, it probably is. > I belive the user's private EFS is encrypted using their p

RE: fork error in Windows 2003 running as normal user

2005-03-24 Thread Kris Thielemans
Hi Corinna and Igor > Does setting CYGWIN to "notraverse" help? Hum. I'll have to confess now. Today it works (i.e. even without notraverse)... I guess a reboot was necessary after changing the permissions (don't understand why). So I guess (but am not sure) Igor's suggestion was the right one af

Re: rxvt problem: Prompt doesn't look very nice

2005-03-24 Thread Ehud Karni
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:53:45 -0500, Jonathan Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, you aren't going to get a colored prompt from within Emacs, but you > can set it up in your .bashrc so it is usable. I have this code in my > .bashrc: > > if [ "$EMACS" == "t" ] > then > export PS1="***

Re: 1.5.13-1 rsync data corruption

2005-03-24 Thread Keith Moore
Keith Moore wrote: > Wayne Davison wrote: > > >>There is a fix in the upcoming 2.6.4 for the -z option of rsync when >>transferring large files (those whose blocksize go past 64K). If you >>can, build either the 2.6.4pre3 release (listed on the web site) or the >>latest nightly tar file (which

FYI: wget assertion error after download of a big (2.29 GB) file

2005-03-24 Thread Jan Bruun Andersen
Hi - just in case anybody cares, I got the following error after I succesfully downloaded a big file (an DVD ISO image) using wget: $ wget --continue ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/i386/iso/FC3-i386-DVD.iso --08:12:16-- ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp

Re: sshd doesn't work after rebaseall: cygheap_fixup_in_child error

2005-03-24 Thread Jason Tishler
Pietro, On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 03:02:49PM +0100, Pietro Toniolo wrote: > Pietro Toniolo wrote: > >After a rebaseall, as suggested in the kde-cygwin instructions at > >sf.net, my sshd daemon is not running anymore. > > I found a suggestione from Axel at Fermilab for a similar problem on: >

Re: rxvt problem: Prompt doesn't look very nice

2005-03-24 Thread Mikael
"Jonathan Arnold" wrote: > Mikael wrote: >> "Jonathan Arnold" wrote: >> >>>Mikael wrote: >>> It looks similar, if not the same, as the result when I tried to set bash as the default shell for a native Windows Emacs cvs version. I guess the \[\033]0;\w\007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] \[\033

Re: rxvt problem: Prompt doesn't look very nice

2005-03-24 Thread Jonathan Arnold
Mikael wrote: "Jonathan Arnold" wrote: Mikael wrote: It looks similar, if not the same, as the result when I tried to set bash as the default shell for a native Windows Emacs cvs version. I guess the \[\033]0;\w\007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] \[\033[33m\w\033[0m\] should display the cwd if it was working

RE: Re: rxvt problem: Prompt doesn't look very nice

2005-03-24 Thread Reid Thompson
> Thanks for the link, now it looks much better. Now I just > need to find a > font I like. Thanks for replying so quickly Jonathan with > such excellent > help, it helps make this world a kinder place. > >> Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold at buddydog dot org) >> Amazing Developments h

Re: rxvt problem: Prompt doesn't look very nice

2005-03-24 Thread Mikael
"Jonathan Arnold" wrote: > Mikael wrote: >> Hello, I just tried rxvt because I wanted to replace the hopeless cmd >> window. However, the "prompt" (not sure that is the correct word) doesn't >> look very nice, here it is copied and pasted: >> \[\033]0;\w\007 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] \[\033[33m\w\033

Re: rxvt problem: Prompt doesn't look very nice

2005-03-24 Thread Jim Roberts
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:22:47 +0100, Mikael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, I just tried rxvt because I wanted to replace the hopeless cmd > window. However, the "prompt" (not sure that is the correct word) doesn't > look very nice, here it is copied and pasted: > \[\033]0;\w\007 > [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Larry Hall
At 01:50 PM 3/24/2005, you wrote: >I had a user install clamwin and as discussed on the list here: > http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-09/msg00288.html >it blithely installs cygwin1.dll regardless of any installation >of cygwin. This predictably causes problems. > >Searching through the us

Re: rxvt problem: Prompt doesn't look very nice

2005-03-24 Thread Jonathan Arnold
Mikael wrote: Hello, I just tried rxvt because I wanted to replace the hopeless cmd window. However, the "prompt" (not sure that is the correct word) doesn't look very nice, here it is copied and pasted: \[\033]0;\w\007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] \[\033[33m\w\033[0m\] $ It looks similar, if not the same,

rxvt problem: Prompt doesn't look very nice

2005-03-24 Thread Mikael
Hello, I just tried rxvt because I wanted to replace the hopeless cmd window. However, the "prompt" (not sure that is the correct word) doesn't look very nice, here it is copied and pasted: \[\033]0;\w\007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] \[\033[33m\w\033[0m\] $ It looks similar, if not the same, as the result

Re: clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 10:50:07AM -0800, Jim Kleckner wrote: >I had a user install clamwin and as discussed on the list here: >http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-09/msg00288.html it blithely >installs cygwin1.dll regardless of any installation of cygwin. This >predictably causes problems.

Re: How do I set up a cygwin mirror?

2005-03-24 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 01:47:49PM -0500, Tim Brom wrote: >I need to set up a cygwin mirror for my college and I was wondering what >the proper way to do this is, who to notify so it can be added to the >mirrors list, is rsync available "is rsync available?" is a question that is easily answered

clamwin installs incompatible copy of cygwin1.dll

2005-03-24 Thread Jim Kleckner
I had a user install clamwin and as discussed on the list here: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-09/msg00288.html it blithely installs cygwin1.dll regardless of any installation of cygwin. This predictably causes problems. Searching through the user guide and faq doesn't yield a suggesti

How do I set up a cygwin mirror?

2005-03-24 Thread Tim Brom
I need to set up a cygwin mirror for my college and I was wondering what the proper way to do this is, who to notify so it can be added to the mirrors list, is rsync available or should I use ftp to maintain the mirror, that sort of thing. I searched the archives and someone posted that http://

Re: does rxvt support cut and paste?

2005-03-24 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Dave Korn wrote: Normally Shift-Insert will (Standard Windows conventions...) No, that's not "standard windows conventions"! The 'doze conventions are Ctrl+X/C/V for cut/copy/paste. Shift+Ins/Del is the *MS-DOS* convention, as seen in such classic and historical programs as 'ed'. I refer you

Re: ssh-agent people (and others) please try latest snapshot

2005-03-24 Thread David Rothenberger
On 3/24/2005 6:11 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Mar 23 15:55, David Rothenberger wrote: This snapshot is not working as well as the 20050322 snapshot for me. I start ssh-agent, add a key to it, and then run while true; do date; ssh-add -l; done in four rxvt windows simultaneously. With the prev

RE: does rxvt support cut and paste?

2005-03-24 Thread Dave Korn
Original Message >From: Andrew DeFaria >Sent: 23 March 2005 22:32 > Matt Wilkie wrote: > >>> highlight text, click in window to paste to, click middle mouse >>> button(wheel). >> >> Thanks for that. >> >> Does this mean there are no keyboard controls for cut/copy/paste? > > Normally Sh

RE: Mailing list confusion

2005-03-24 Thread Dave Korn
Original Message >From: Arend-Jan Westhoff >Sent: 24 March 2005 10:27 > (Btw is apparently a different -- may > be more proper(?) -- name to refer to the location of the Cygwin archive > (currently at IP 12.107.209.250).) sourceware.org == cygwin.com =

Re: doxygen status

2005-03-24 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Hans Horn wrote: > > > Group, > > > > I noticed that the vintage of doxygen that ships with cygwin (v1.2.18) is > > more than two years old. > > This isn't surprising, as the last announcement for the doxygen package[*] > from Ry

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: rxvt-2.7.10-5

2005-03-24 Thread Steve O
I've updated the rxvt package to install the documentation under /usr/share. No code has been changed, though hopefully the man page is now readable. rxvt is in the 'Shells' section of the installer. It works with or without X Windows running and is a comfy replacement for the cmd window. ==

Re: doxygen status

2005-03-24 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Hans Horn wrote: > Group, > > I noticed that the vintage of doxygen that ships with cygwin (v1.2.18) is > more than two years old. This isn't surprising, as the last announcement for the doxygen package[*] from Ryunosuke Satoh *was* more than two years ago... > The current v

Re: doxygen status

2005-03-24 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Mar 24 09:02, Hans Horn wrote: > Group, > > I noticed that the vintage of doxygen that ships with cygwin (v1.2.18) is > more than two years old. > The current version of doxygen (1.4.1-20050315) builds ootb and appears to > be functioning properly; I ran it on a mid-size C++ source tree and o

doxygen status

2005-03-24 Thread Hans Horn
Group, I noticed that the vintage of doxygen that ships with cygwin (v1.2.18) is more than two years old. The current version of doxygen (1.4.1-20050315) builds ootb and appears to be functioning properly; I ran it on a mid-size C++ source tree and on a rather large Java source tree. When doing

Re: openssh under Windows XP

2005-03-24 Thread Larry Hall
At 02:52 AM 3/24/2005, you wrote: >I am having a problem installing the ssh server daemon >sshd under Windows XP. >I keep on getting the following error: > >$ ssh-host-config -y >Overwrite existing /etc/ssh_config file? (yes/no) yes >Generating /etc/ssh_config file >Overwrite existing /etc/sshd_co

Re: Mailing list confusion

2005-03-24 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 11:26:49AM +0100, Arend-Jan Westhoff wrote: >Would it not be convenient if the archive and mailinglist present a >line one could copy and paste as the first line of a reply so that >threading info would be correctly preserved? (Should make it >independent of any rogue e-mai

Re: Mailing list confusion

2005-03-24 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Arend-Jan Westhoff wrote: > Thanks Brian, for the clarification. Does this imply that if one is e.g. > on the digest version of the mailinglist (as I am, and would like to > stay that way), that this confusion will be inevitable when one replies > to a message or is there a wo

Re: fork error in Windows 2003 running as normal user

2005-03-24 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Mar 24 00:32, Kris Thielemans wrote: > > Hi Igor > > > > Thanks for your help. > > Does setting CYGWIN to "notraverse" help? Ah, I didn't think of that. What's strange, though, is that when he ssh's in, things work. AFAICS, ssh-host-config doesn

Typo in openssh.README (Was Re: problems starting sshd - again)

2005-03-24 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Brian Dessent wrote: > You should read /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/openssh.README for details on > sshd. You will find the following passage: > > If you start sshd as deamon via cygrunsrv.exe you MUST give the ^^ Heh, it actually *does* say that... Shoul

Re: Lpr problem with Cygwin 1.5.13 (Works fine with 1.5.12)

2005-03-24 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Mar 24 07:46, Weiqi Gao wrote: > I'm having problems with lpr since I updated to the 1.5.13 version of > cygwin. When I roll back the cygwin package (cygwin package only) to > 1.5.12, lpr worked again. Will be fixed in 1.5.14. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails

Re: ssh-agent people (and others) please try latest snapshot

2005-03-24 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Mar 23 15:55, David Rothenberger wrote: > On 3/23/2005 10:19 AM, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >The latest (2005-03-23 as of this writing) snapshot has some more > >improvements from Corinna wrt unix domain sockets. > > > >We're coming close to a 1.5.14 release so I would appreciate it if > >peopl

Re: sshd doesn't work after rebaseall: cygheap_fixup_in_child error

2005-03-24 Thread Pietro Toniolo
Pietro Toniolo wrote: After a rebaseall, as suggested in the kde-cygwin instructions at sf.net, my sshd daemon is not running anymore. I found a suggestione from Axel at Fermilab for a similar problem on: http://root.cern.ch/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1382 and rebasing again with this command: \ls /b

Lpr problem with Cygwin 1.5.13 (Works fine with 1.5.12)

2005-03-24 Thread Weiqi Gao
I'm having problems with lpr since I updated to the 1.5.13 version of cygwin. When I roll back the cygwin package (cygwin package only) to 1.5.12, lpr worked again. I'm using lpr to print to a Samba printer. I have exported the PRINTER environment variable that points to the UNC name of the prin

Re: fetchmail -v Not Verbose Enough

2005-03-24 Thread George
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 08:00:03PM -0500, Jason Tishler wrote: > George, > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 11:06:06AM -0800, George wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 11:56:56AM -0500, Jason Tishler wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 08:12:21AM -0800, George wrote: > > Thanks for the reply, Jason. Su

sshd doesn't work after rebaseall: cygheap_fixup_in_child error

2005-03-24 Thread Pietro Toniolo
I experience the same problem that Jet Wilda had last dec, 6. He did not get any answer, then... hope to be luckier. After a rebaseall, as suggested in the kde-cygwin instructions at sf.net, my sshd daemon is not running anymore. My steps were: 1) stop the cygwin-related services (init & sshd) 2) i

Re: Cygwin/X11/QT3.3.3/Scribus1.3CVS: ./configure errors

2005-03-24 Thread Gerrit P. Haase
Steven Boothe wrote: Gerrit P. Haase wrote: configure:2620: gcc -fdata-sections -Wl, --enable-runtime-pseudo-reloc, --script, /opt/qt/3.3/mkspecs/cygwin-g++/i386pi.x-no-rdata conftest.c >&5 gcc: /opt/qt/3.3/mkspecs/cygwin-g++/i386pi.x-no-rdata: No such file or directory cc1: error: unrecognized

Re: Mailing list confusion

2005-03-24 Thread Arend-Jan Westhoff
At Thu, 24 Mar 2005 00:06:30 -0800 Brian Dessent wrote: >Arend-Jan Westhoff wrote: > >> How come when I look at >> : >> >> I see the message: >> March 24, 2005 07:32 Re: Path confusion Brian Dessent >> That message lists: >>

RE: problems starting sshd - again

2005-03-24 Thread Mike Kenny - BCX - Professional Services JHB
> Mike Kenny - BCX - Professional Services JHB wrote: > > > I know this has been on the list previously, but I have searched the FAQ > > and recent archives and cannot find the relevant references. I have > > found some relating to permissions, but these don't address my issue. > > Anyway, my XP s

Re: fork error in Windows 2003 running as normal user

2005-03-24 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Mar 24 00:32, Kris Thielemans wrote: > Hi Igor > > Thanks for your help. Does setting CYGWIN to "notraverse" help? Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader mailto:cygwin@cygwin.com Red Hat, Inc. -- Unsubscribe inf

Re: problems starting sshd - again

2005-03-24 Thread Brian Dessent
Mike Kenny - BCX - Professional Services JHB wrote: > I know this has been on the list previously, but I have searched the FAQ > and recent archives and cannot find the relevant references. I have > found some relating to permissions, but these don't address my issue. > Anyway, my XP system died a

Re: Mailing list confusion

2005-03-24 Thread Brian Dessent
Arend-Jan Westhoff wrote: > How come when I look at > : > > I see the message: > March 24, 2005 07:32 Re: Path confusion Brian Dessent > That message lists: > 07:17 Path confusion Luke Kendall > As its reference, but