Re: Re: [computer-go] Why not forums?

2007-02-06 Thread Eduardo Sabbatella
No please. I use my email client, I sort them, I store them I'm happy with it. Personally, I will not be able to read the forum at work. It will be the difference between reading and not reading the list. I want to choose which info will push me, and forget. I don't want to log into a forum eve

Re: [computer-go] February KGS computer Go tournament: results

2007-02-06 Thread Nick Wedd
Thanks to all those who have pointed out errors in my report at http://www.weddslist.com/kgs/past/23/index.html Weston Markham wrote > Should one of those "Open"s be "Formal"? Jason House wrote > The open division results table is completely wrong > Formal division round 2 seems to have skipped

Re: [computer-go] February KGS computer Go tournament: results

2007-02-06 Thread Sanghyeon Seo
2007/2/6, Nick Wedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I am pleased to find that people read my reports so carefully, and that they report my errors to me. I have now, I hope, removed all these errors, and uploaded the corrected version. I am particularly grateful for the analysis supplied by Sanghyeon Seo,

Re: [computer-go] Details of AnchorMan

2007-02-06 Thread Magnus Persson
I have the problem that my DSL provider disconnects me and give me a new IP-adress. When that happens my programs lose on time in a similar to your problem description. My solution is to disconnect/connect my Internet and CGOS connection manually often enough. I also had some problems with lag but

Re: [computer-go] Details of AnchorMan

2007-02-06 Thread Chris Fant
This is happening everyday for me. My IP is not changing. I don't think it's a lag issue. But I could be wrong. Is it possible that there is a bug in the Windows TCL interpreter? How many other people out there are running TCL on Windows for cgos? On 2/6/07, Magnus Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED

[computer-go] cgos ggexp

2007-02-06 Thread Chris Fant
To who it may concern: ggexp appears to be losing all of it's games on time. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/

Re: [computer-go] Why not forums?

2007-02-06 Thread Matt Gokey
Eduardo Sabbatella wrote: No please. I use my email client, I sort them, I store them I'm happy with it. Personally, I will not be able to read the forum at work. It will be the difference between reading and not reading the list. I want to choose which info will push me, and forget. I don'

[computer-go] Monte Carlo (MC) vs Quasi-Monte Carlo (QMC)

2007-02-06 Thread Matt Gokey
Upon continuing to learn about the general Monte Carlo field, I've found it seems there is a general consensus in this community about a distinction between Monte Carlo (MC) and what appears to be commonly called Quasi Monte Carlo (QMC). MC is defined as using random/pseudo-random distributions a

Re : [computer-go] Monte Carlo (MC) vs Quasi-Monte Carlo (QMC)

2007-02-06 Thread ivan dubois
I dont understand how you can reduce the variance of monte-carlo sampling, given a simulation can return either 0(loss) or 1(win). Maybe it means trying to have mean values that are closer to 0 or 1 ? - Message d'origine De : Matt Gokey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> À : computer-go Envoyé le : Ma

Re: [computer-go] Monte Carlo (MC) vs Quasi-Monte Carlo (QMC)

2007-02-06 Thread Tapani Raiko
It seems that there are at least three cases: 1: Choosing a random move from a uniform distribution 2: Choosing a random move from a nonuniform distribution (patterns etc.) 3: Choosing a move taking into account what has been chosen before The concensus seems to be that numbers 1 and 2 are MC and

Re: [computer-go] cgos ggexp

2007-02-06 Thread Don Dailey
I just checked this for January and here are the statics: When playing white ggexp played: 1087 games 295 losses 8 of these were time losses. When playing black ggexp played 1036 games 341 losses 17 losses So I don't see that it's losing all

Re: [computer-go] cgos ggexp

2007-02-06 Thread Chris Fant
It lost several games in a row on time at the time that I sent that message. Obviously, it can't have lost ALL of it's games and still attained an 1800 rating. On 2/6/07, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just checked this for January and here are the statics: When playing white ggexp

Re: [computer-go] cgos ggexp

2007-02-06 Thread Christoph Birk
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Don Dailey wrote: I just checked this for January and here are the statics: When playing white ggexp played: 1087 games 295 losses 8 of these were time losses. When playing black ggexp played 1036 games 341 losses 17 losses But most

Re: [computer-go] cgos ggexp

2007-02-06 Thread Don Dailey
On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 14:16 -0500, Chris Fant wrote: > It lost several games in a row on time at the time that I sent that > message. Obviously, it can't have lost ALL of it's games and still > attained an 1800 rating. I assumed that you meant that of all the games it lost, they were mostly due

Re: [computer-go] Monte Carlo (MC) vs Quasi-Monte Carlo (QMC)

2007-02-06 Thread Matt Gokey
ivan dubois wrote: I dont understand how you can reduce the variance of monte-carlo sampling, given a simulation can return either 0(loss) or 1(win). Maybe it means trying to have mean values that are closer to 0 or 1 ? Well strictly speaking I agree the standard models don't fit that well - t

Re: [computer-go] Monte Carlo (MC) vs Quasi-Monte Carlo (QMC)

2007-02-06 Thread Luke Gustafson
It seems that there are at least three cases: 1: Choosing a random move from a uniform distribution 2: Choosing a random move from a nonuniform distribution (patterns etc.) 3: Choosing a move taking into account what has been chosen before The concensus seems to be that numbers 1 and 2 are MC a

Re: [computer-go] Monte Carlo (MC) vs Quasi-Monte Carlo (QMC)

2007-02-06 Thread Matt Gokey
Tapani Raiko wrote: It seems that there are at least three cases: 1: Choosing a random move from a uniform distribution 2: Choosing a random move from a nonuniform distribution (patterns etc.) 3: Choosing a move taking into account what has been chosen before The concensus seems to be that numb

[computer-go] MC Go Effectiveness

2007-02-06 Thread Matt Gokey
It seems to me, the fundamental reason MC go (regardless of details) works as it does is because it is the only search method (at least that I am aware of) that has found a way to manage the evaluation problem. Evaluation is not as problematic because MC goes to the bitter end where the status is

Re[4]: [computer-go] Why not forums?

2007-02-06 Thread Dmitry Kamenetsky
I have been reading this list for nearly a year now and it is very discouraging to receive so much criticism for my first post. The yahoo groups was merely an example to show how easy it is to get a forum started. I also agree that yahoo appends too much spam to its forums and I am sure there a