Re: [computer-go] Re: hex robot

2008-11-28 Thread Darren Cook
> How about playing with your bot on Little Golem [1]? For anyone trying to connect for the first time, the server has been down for the past 3 days. Monitor this conversation to discover when it comes back up: http://groups.google.com/group/LittleGolem/browse_thread/thread/d93db541d46740f BTW, b

Re: [computer-go] Re: hex robot

2008-11-28 Thread Urban Hafner
Denis fidaali wrote: > Thanks a lot. > It seems that there are much more resources for hex out there than > one would think looking at the results from Google. > It's just scattered everywhere in an impossibly > deep labyrinth :) > > At some point, i expect to need a good player > for getting some

RE: [computer-go] Re: hex robot

2008-11-28 Thread Denis fidaali
; like go-pros, or chess grand-master. > Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:09:16 +0200 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: computer-go@computer-go.org > Subject: Re: [computer-go] Re: hex robot > > > > GTP you can simply use as-is, I don't see why that wouldn't work. > >

Re: [computer-go] Re: hex robot

2008-11-28 Thread Tapani Raiko
> GTP you can simply use as-is, I don't see why that wouldn't work. > GoGui is also open-source and can possibly also be easily adapted to > Hex as well. But to be honest, I don't really need a Gui that much. > But twogtp is really useful. HexGui already exists. It uses GTP. Here's a link: http://

Re: [computer-go] Re: hex robot

2008-11-27 Thread Don Dailey
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 16:22 -0200, Mark Boon wrote: > Don, > > I'm not going to argue about the merits of Java or C++ as it won't > change anyone's point of view anyway. > > What you're arguing is you should use C/C++, period. Fine by me if > that's what you think is best. > > But that's not

Re: [computer-go] Re: hex robot

2008-11-27 Thread Don Dailey
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 12:59 -0500, steve uurtamo wrote: > don, > > i agree, although i will point out one of C's biggest flaws, which > happens (conveniently for the sake of this argument) to be its > least important one for game programming: > > string handling sucks > > if i never have to hand

Re: [computer-go] Re: hex robot

2008-11-27 Thread Mark Boon
Don, I'm not going to argue about the merits of Java or C++ as it won't change anyone's point of view anyway. What you're arguing is you should use C/C++, period. Fine by me if that's what you think is best. But that's not what Denis was saying. He didn't specify he'd start with C/C++,

Re: [computer-go] Re: hex robot

2008-11-27 Thread steve uurtamo
don, i agree, although i will point out one of C's biggest flaws, which happens (conveniently for the sake of this argument) to be its least important one for game programming: string handling sucks if i never have to handle a string, i'll choose C without question. when i need to handle strings

RE: [computer-go] Re: hex robot

2008-11-27 Thread David Fotland
ter-go > Subject: Re: [computer-go] Re: hex robot > > On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 13:03 -0200, Mark Boon wrote: > > You say you're going to try to make a prototype first and then when it > > shows promise, move to a more flexible language like Java. What > > language are you inten

Re: [computer-go] Re: hex robot

2008-11-27 Thread Don Dailey
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 13:03 -0200, Mark Boon wrote: > You say you're going to try to make a prototype first and then when it > shows promise, move to a more flexible language like Java. What > language are you intending to use? It seems the wrong way around to > me. Develop the prototype in a flexi

RE: [computer-go] Re: hex robot

2008-11-27 Thread Denis fidaali
Thanks all for your support and suggestion. I'll let you know if i happen to get any success. > Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:08:24 +0100 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: computer-go@computer-go.org > Subject: Re: [computer-go] Re: hex robot > > Dave Dyer wrote: > >

Re: [computer-go] Re: hex robot

2008-11-27 Thread Rémi Coulom
Dave Dyer wrote: At 01:52 AM 11/27/2008, Denis fidaali wrote: ... But what really lacks (or i wasn't able to find anyway) is a strong community like there is for go. A CGOS equivalent. A GTP equivalent. A Gogui equivalent. A Kgs equivalent. I don't think there's a match between you

Re: [computer-go] Re: hex robot

2008-11-27 Thread Mark Boon
tually through a java Applet by the end of January 2009. If this prototype shows promises, then i might try to port it to a more flexible langage (like Java). The name of the prototype will be Stohex. > Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:56:19 -0800 > To: computer-go@computer-go.org > From: [

Re: [computer-go] Re: hex robot

2008-11-27 Thread Don Dailey
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 02:05 -0800, Dave Dyer wrote: > At 01:52 AM 11/27/2008, Denis fidaali wrote: > > ... > > But what really lacks (or i wasn't able to find anyway) is a strong > > community like there is for go. > > > > A CGOS equivalent. > > A GTP equivalent. > > A Gogui equivalent. > > A Kgs

RE: [computer-go] RE: hex robot

2008-11-27 Thread Denis fidaali
rk indeed, i'll certainly stop all work on go and hex altogether. Sincerely Denis FIDAALI. > Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:57:55 -0800 > To: computer-go@computer-go.org > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [computer-go] RE: hex robot > > > Permit me to play the skeptic here;

[computer-go] Re: hex robot

2008-11-27 Thread Dave Dyer
At 01:52 AM 11/27/2008, Denis fidaali wrote: ... > But what really lacks (or i wasn't able to find anyway) is a strong community > like there is for go. > > A CGOS equivalent. > A GTP equivalent. > A Gogui equivalent. > A Kgs equivalent. I don't think there's a match between your goals and what

[computer-go] RE: hex robot

2008-11-27 Thread Dave Dyer
Permit me to play the skeptic here; I think you're going about it absolutely backwards - unless you already have a strong algorithm which depends on 128 bit rotations, and only lack an efficient hardware engine to run it on. If your idea of fun is to really feel the bits squishing between your

RE: [computer-go] Re: hex robot

2008-11-27 Thread Denis fidaali
> To: computer-go@computer-go.org > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [computer-go] Re: hex robot > > At 01:31 PM 11/26/2008, Denis fidaali wrote: > >Speaking of hex ... I really think it would be a nice intermediary game > >before tackling the complexity of go. Do you

RE: [computer-go] Re: hex robot

2008-11-27 Thread Denis fidaali
I'm sure that the protocol already exists. One would have to agree and pick up a good and easy one. > Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:56:19 -0800 > To: computer-go@computer-go.org > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [computer-go] Re: hex robot > > At 01:31 PM 11/26/2008, Denis

Re: [computer-go] Re: hex robot

2008-11-26 Thread Michael Williams
The Hex Wiki at http://www.hexwiki.org/index.php?title=Computer_Hex appears to contain some incorrect/dated information (Six is no longer the strongest). Here is another resource: http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~hayward/papers/rptBeijing.pdf Dave Dyer wrote: At 01:31 PM 11/26/2008, Denis fidaali

[computer-go] Re: hex robot

2008-11-26 Thread Dave Dyer
At 01:31 PM 11/26/2008, Denis fidaali wrote: >Speaking of hex ... I really think it would be a nice intermediary game before >tackling the complexity of go. Do you know of any good community (and protocol >equivalent to GTP) where i could start to look for submitting a bot ? There are a couple o