Thanks to everyone who chimed in about these issues--a good example of the
expertise on this list and your willingness to share it! It's also an
illustration of the adage "...be careful what you wish for".
There are so many ways to address my mixed battery issue that my head is about
to explode
Up and down for racing, usually up for local cruising in the NC sounds and the
ICW which rarely have depths of 20 feet.
My 36 XL has a 4.5 ft depth lead cb trunk so there is plenty of 'keel' with the
board up inside the trunk. Since the board weighs ~1000 lbs, grinding it up is
not something on
I sprung for a Gori Racing folder about 3 years ago after some internet
research on prop drag. The Gori's drag was so low as to be almost immeasurable
compared to almost all others on the market in the Yachting article.
It or any other prop must be matched to the engine/transmission/boat
displa
On my cb, it is not possible to replace the cable or even check it carefully
without having the boat in the travel lift high enough to remove the topside
stopper mechanism so the board can be fully dropped so it hangs only by the
pin. Of course this requires at least some time in the lift but fo
My board requires a yard travel lift to get the room to have the board hanging
only by the pin--it appears that C&C designed them that way. Then everything is
reasonably accessible.
The pennant travel passes thru a cabin top 'stop', then a sheave directing it
vertically thru a SS tube thru the
If your winches have seen a lot of use, I suggest you have them knurled.
Mine (Lewmar STs #30 and #50) had ~ 15 years of use and I had them re-knurled
with a simple vertical 'scoring' pattern of 'medium' harshness for $30 each.
Too much 'harshness' will chew up your line.
They now hold as if ne
Life seal has sealed up some of my hardware admirably.
OTOH, I find it impossible to keep the it off of stuff I don't want sealed and
a PITA to clean up.
Maybe I just need to suffer its failings and appreciate its advantages.
Charlie Nelson
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> On Oct 21, 2015, at 8:39 PM, D
So if one is club racing under PHRF with a racer-cruiser C&C 36 XL (non-planing
for sure!), does adding a sprit and asymmetric kite improve its performance
relative to a mast head symmetrical kite assuming no change in its PHRF rating?
I gather from the list over the years that for round the buo
Yes, that's it. Worked fine for me on my 'under sole'.
Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
North Carolina
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> On Jan 26, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List
> wrote:
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> Charlie — I think you’re referring to “CPES”:
>
> http://www.smithandcompany.org/CPES/
>
> Fred
Over the years between wear and tear and various instrument/wiring (mis)
adventures, my sliding hatch has, I think, lost the guides that kept it in line
as it slides over the fixed port light just forward and below it.
(Excuse my lack of nautical terms please.)
Anyway, and more importantly, this
An alternative to adding various sun covers on roller furled sails is to use a
sleeve from ATN or a local canvas shop. This one cover will provide protection
for ANY furled headsail so you need only add it once for the the boat. Probably
costs more initially than a sewn on cover but it protects
I like the list--info is pushed to me--no effort on my part.
Charlie Nelson
1995 C&C 36XL/kcb
Water Phantom
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> On Mar 14, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
> wrote:
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> The list is the best. That way I know I’ve read everything…
>
> Jake
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> From: CnC-List [
I have used both polysulfide sealer and butyl tape to keep water out of the
cabin from gear mounted on the cabin or deck. I prefer butyl tape because it is
less messy and easy to remove.
My question is why not use something like flexible rubber, plastic or cork
sheets to provide a flexible, wat
My 36 XL/kcb has an identical system and is led to cam cleats above companion
way-winch not required which makes for quick adjustments. PITA to get to--
attach messenger line to aft end of boom out haul line and pull mast end of
system thru. You will probably find the purchase system terminates
I bought a Forte spinnaker pole ~ 8-10 years ago. At that time it was
significantly less than the Forespar and IMHO wound on a mandrel and stronger.
A few years later they made a custom adjustable whisker pole for me since I
insisted I wanted a duplicate to the equivalent aluminum pole regarding
I am trying to find replacement screens for the cockpit drains on my 1995
XL/kcb--built in the Canadian plant between 1993-1995.
It is plastic, 2 5/16" in diameter and white. It is not a Forespar model and my
internet searches have not turned up anything identical.
Does anyone on the list know
In addition to all the other possibilities, keep in mind that your pick- up
tube determines the remaining fuel amount. If it only goes down to 1/4 tank,
you are empty no matter what any gauge tells you. Don't ask me how I know but I
learned this more than once!
Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C&C
Run, don't walk, to a local Upholstry shop with your original foam and get an
estimate. This is likely to save you money but even if it doesn't you would
have an idea of the cost without a 'marine' label. You might also consider
using Ultrasuede/Ultraleather or some other fabric that is mold res
IMHO, the key to docking stern to is to have sufficiently sized 'cahunas' to
get the boat moving in reverse relatively far from the slip.
I almost always dock stern to and independent of wind, current, prop walk,
blah, blah, blah...the key is to get going in reverse at least 10 boat lengths
fr
I concur with the measurement suggestion. Also I would not be surprised to find
that the cb boat of any C&C 'series' might actually have a deeper draft than
its 'racer/fin keel' equivalent model.
Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C&C 36 XL/kcb
1995
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> On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:10
My Navtec hydraulic back stay adjuster started leaking/slipping a few years ago
after ~ 17 yrs of reliable operation. In the farming area of eastern NC where I
live, there are many hydraulic shops since just about every farm implement uses
hydraulic pistons--often many on the same tractor.
All
Many moons ago I had leaks from the SS handrails and the yard suggested adding
conical standoffs between the SS rails and the deck. This enabled a larger
surface area to be used to help seal against leaks.
Has worked for 10+ years.
Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C&C 36 XL/kcb
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I am thinking/dreaming of doing BIRW in June and would need to charter a boat
that requires a crew of ~ 8, most of whom would probably stay on board to
minimize logistical problems as well as cost.
As a C&Cer, would prefer to charter the same so I thought I would check with
the list for possibl
In NC, our boats never come out for the Winter so the bottom needs cleaned
regularly if you race or not. Fortunately I get mine done at least monthly for
about $50 per cleaning and given the hassle of doing myself, it's a no brained
to pay someone to do this.
OTOH, at $100 plus per cleaning, I
I may live so far out "...in the sticks..." in Eastern NC that "...we have to
import the sticks 😄..." but we have many hydraulic shops, mostly because we
have a lot of farm and logging equipment in use.
I had my Navtec unit (after about 15 yrs in use) seals replaced, cylinders
smoothed/rebored?
Water Phantom came from the factory (1995) with a painted Flag Blue hull,
thrown into the deal since hull damage during the C&C factory fire delayed her
delivery by about a year.
After ~ 16 years she was looking tired so I bit the bullet and had the yard
repaint with Awlgrip. I struggled with t
It appears that my sliding hatch is leaking--water drips from if when it rains,
etc. After 21 years and multiple wire runs for instruments, etc., etc. I no
longer remember how this hatch was in its original, non-leaking state.
Currently it simply slides on 1 x 2" teak (?) boards which are mount
After you have done what has been suggested, you have taken all 'reasonable'
precautions to minimize the chances of serious damage from a strike IMHO.
I don't think it is possible to reduce these chances to zero, no matter what
precautions you take--a strike contains so much energy/second that i
Main advantage IMHO is weight. I don't remember the difference between carbon
and aluminum for the same pole but it is substantial.
This makes it easier to use, extend, handle plus it probably will not kill you
if it falls on your head when the topping lift is mishandled by your crew.
Since it i
I am about to hook up a Morningstar Sun Guard SG-4 controller between a solar
panel and my battery #1. My plan is to use the NC sun to keep my starting
battery topped off between races without using the battery charger/AC although
if I am on board, I will use the charger.
My question for the l
Other than original build files or copies from the Kingston Museum, you might
try Computer Keels for the proper NACA chord shapes for various vertical depths
of your rudder. If the fore-aft distance is not much different from top to
bottom of your rudder, a single template at ~ $75 is all you sh
The piston seals likely need replaced. Take it to a local hydraulic shop to be
'rebuilt' for a few boat bucks and reinstall for another 30 yrs.
Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C&C 36 XL/kcb
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> On Jul 16, 2016, at 9:07 PM, John McKay via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
> My 33 MK II has a N
Any coil of wire/generator can have large induced current/voltage if near a
lightning strike which produces a very large EMF field locally. This field
propagates out from the strike (following ~ 1/r law) inducing currents in any
nearby motor/generator/etc. Of course, the induced current/voltage
Ahhh the vortices! Only relatively recently were these observed in experiments
done on 'bumble bee' flight. IIRC, they were shown to be a significant source
of lift for these large bees, without which they either could not fly or
certainly not fly as well as they do!
Charlie Nelson
Water Phanto
At one time, it was owned by a retired USMC Harrior pilot who I knew as Fitz, I
think after his last name Fitzgerald? He kept it at Hancock Creek YC on Cherry
Point MCAS.
FWIW,
Charlie Nelson
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> On Aug 21, 2016, at 10:09 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List
> wrote:
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> Sayuri used
As one who spent about 85% of your 3 sail quote for 1 North 3Di 155% headsail,
I am blown away that you can get 3 for what you were quoted !!!
Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
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> On Jun 29, 2017, at 3:09 PM, Gary Smith via CnC-List
> wrote:
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> Hi All,
>
>
Be there on Saturday to work on my boat so could have a look. Just let me know
which boat/broker if I need to get inside.
Charlie Nelson
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> On Jul 11, 2017, at 9:41 AM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List"
> wrote:
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> Joe
> Coquina
>
Agree that in light air the windward sheeting Harken traveler car has
difficulties.
I love the swivel idea at the track ends. Currently both my main sheet(s) (I
have a 6:1 plus a 4:1 for 24:1 when it's really blowing) AND the car on top of
each other and the windward sheeting car has the cleat
Before investing lots of time, effort and money in reattaching your baby stay
to whatever, give some thought to a larger questionis it necessary on your
boat? While I am not a naval architect and have not recently stayed in a
Holiday Inn Express :>), unless your mast is 'bendy' and absolutel
Great analysis of the forces on the various stays Chuck.
When I ordered my C&C I liked the idea of so many ways to adjust my mast
feeling it would be 'fast'. In practice not so much--getting a 155 around the
baby stay chewed up the sail and was slow--not to mention temporarily removing
the ba
Revealing my ignorance or not, is your 40 the same as the 37/40?
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> On Dec 9, 2017, at 10:22 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List
> wrote:
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> Good morning, all. My wife has a web site up to help sell Peregrine.
> I think I have her priced very reasonably (Peregrine, not my wife.
Be sure you know your transmission ratio, prop-hull clearance, ideal engine
RPM, etc. before you rely on a simple calculation. This is a question that
seems like it should have a simple answer but "...it depends on several other
parameters.." so a simple answer could be wrong. If the Max-Prop a
1+ on cb issues although I have not moved from SS to dyneema. I have had my cb
pennant break with the board up. With a weighted board, it is likely that if
the pennant lets go you will not have to worry about raising it with winches,
properly deployed lines, etc. Your board will hit the trunk w
Difficulties in finding enough crew to fly my masthead kite (~7-8) have me
thinking of adding a sprit with asym kite to make it possible to be competitive
in the spin fleet with less crew (~ 4-6). I only had 6 for our last race and
the wind was 10-15 so we decided to forego the kite and took a
In NC-PHRF, you get a single rating which is based on your largest
headsail/fastest kite with penalties if you have a sprit, oversized kite/jib >
155%, etc. and independent of race configuration (W-L, distance, etc.). If you
choose not to race with your largest jib or your biggest kite, your rat
I 2nd the Gori 2 blade geared folding prop:
Lowest drag of ANY prop by experiments reported in Yachting a few years ago.
Detailed recommendation of pitch and diameter after boat owner supplied info on
engine, trains ratio and boat displacement.
Cost was comparable to other props with experiment
A few years ago I replaced my batteries with Northstar? 31. They were rated
very high, we’re the heaviest #31s (lots of lead) and they claim to use only
‘virgin’ lead, not recycled lead, which they claim lasts longer. Came with a 2
or 3 year full replacement warranty with the remaining 3 or 2 ye
Water Phantom was on the hard in Oriental NC for bottom work and survived
without a scratch--even the 9+ foot storm surge was not enough to float her off
the stands.
One way or another (Lady Luck included!) she has survived every hurricane that
NC has suffered since Fran and Bertha in 1996 thro
I may be wrong but I think the 37/40 always had an option of a CB. Before I
ordered my 34/36 XL in 1993 I was shown the CB on a 37/40 by the salesman at
the Annapolis Boat show as an example of what it would look like on my boat
after it was built.
The 37 was significantly beyond my price rang
After 20+ years my battery boxes were in pretty sad shape. The tie downs were
fine underneath them and I use AGM Northstar Group 31? Batteries. Pitched the
worthless battery boxes, tied each battery down to the tie downs and sailed on.
With secure tie downs and AGM batteries, see no need for bat
I would not try to sail with the board hanging down supported only by the pin.
The trunk usually provides resistance to athwart ship forces on the board when
down in its normal position. If the cable is gone, the board hangs too far down
and all the sideways force is concentrated on the pin whic
AFAIK, the only thing 'special' about them is the pressure it takes to open the
valve against the spring--this value is probably pretty standard at so many
lbs/sq. in. but it would be listed for your engine somewhere.
My engine had a mysterious leak that I finally determined was a result of NO
I recently moved my boat from CRW to New Bern, NC via the ICW. Several times we
ran aground either because skipper error or shifting shoals that are impossible
to keep up with unless you sail in them often.
Not surprisingly our Fortress 11 was pretty useless in grabbing the bottom when
thrown a
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