Re: Stus-List Helicoils

2020-05-15 Thread schiller via CnC-List
Helicoils are great things! We used to wet install helicoils with a poly imide epoxy primer for both galvanic isolation and as a thread locker building precision guided munitions.  If you can find poly imide epoxy in anything less than gallon sizes it is very useful anytime you need to install

Re: Stus-List C&C 29s with a Dodger

2020-05-15 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
Jeremy; your question is a good one, and it is a good idea to get the information about what the former owners had for a dodger;  the other 29 owners on this list will give you some excellent ideas; however, I suggest that you take a deeper look at the differing types of dodgers before spendin

Stus-List Best Shower Boat

2020-05-15 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
If you did not want to rely on taking showers ashore, what C&Cs are best set up for onboard showers? I know in theory I could do it now, but it makes a mess out of the head and then some. We shower aboard with a hose in the cockpit now. Landfall 38 maybe? Don’ they have a shower stall? Joe Dell

Re: Stus-List Best Shower Boat

2020-05-15 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Joe, C&C 37+ — completely separate shower stall with a seat in there too. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Captain of the Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

Re: Stus-List Best Shower Boat

2020-05-15 Thread Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List
My Landfall 39 has 2 showers. Plus an added one in the cockpit. Doug Mountjoysv Rebecca Leah C&C Landfall 39Port Orchard yacht club Original message From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" Date: 5/15/20 08:40 (GMT-08:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" Subject

Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I

2020-05-15 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Listers- A guy in my yacht club has started an arms race by adding an asym with a top-down furler to his Ranger 28. Wednesday night in light air I beat him to the windward mark by a minute or two, then he hoisted his asym and dropped me like a bad habit. He beat me by five minutes corrected t

Re: Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I

2020-05-15 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Hi Randy You may take a rating hit for having a sprit on the boat for this. The measurement will be Total Sprit Length (TSL) and if that exceeds J there is usually an adjustment. Have you considered a symmetrical spinnaker? The 30 was designed for one and the downwind angles would clobber a

Re: Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I

2020-05-15 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Hi Mike, Yes Grenadine is rigged for symmetrical spinnaker and I fly it in some races. I’m still at a disadvantage in speed of setting sails without furlers. I would be surprised if TSL would need to be greater than 13.5’! Cheers, Randy > On May 15, 2020, at 10:28 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Best Shower Boat

2020-05-15 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%26C_37/40#/media/File:C&C_37-40_Heads_Interior.jpg On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 12:48, Edd Schillay via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Joe, > > C&C 37+ — completely separate shower stall with a seat in there too. > > All the best, > > Edd > > > Edd M. Schill

Re: Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I

2020-05-15 Thread Bruno Lachance via CnC-List
Hi Randy, Few years ago we added an A2 on a Facnor furler and and Selden sprit to our 33-2. We do like it, easy and safe to use single or shorthanded and my girlfriend feels confortable knowing i can manage everything safely by myself while she drives the boat. But if i had to choose again i w

Re: Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I

2020-05-15 Thread Matt Wolford via CnC-List
Randy: What do you mean when you say "rigged"? I have an asym, but I just use my spin pole set all the way forward and as low as possible. Do you have one of those pole gizmos? -Original Message- From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Randy Stafford via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 15, 2

Re: Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I

2020-05-15 Thread Donald Kern via CnC-List
Randy, Most PHRF rating organizations will adjust (negatively) your rating for adding a tack point forward of the "J" measurement of the boat. You may receive a credit for both a retrofit application and due to a smaller sail area for a spinnaker - depends on the rating rules for your PHRF or

Re: Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I

2020-05-15 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Hi Matt, What I mean is my boat has a spinnaker pole, mast ring on track, topping lift, pole downhaul deck hardware, etc. What do you mean pole gizmos? :) Interesting that you use your spin pole at the tack of your asym if I understood correctly. Can you keep it low enough with the pole down

Re: Stus-List Best Shower Boat

2020-05-15 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
The 90s version of the 36XL (formerly the 34/36?) also have a shower with a seat separate from the toilet. Charlie Nelson1995 36XL/kcbWater Phantom Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Friday, May 15, 2020, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List   wrote: If you did not

Re: Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I

2020-05-15 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Randy, I added a Selden sprit to a dock neighbor's Peterson 37. In our region, he was able to add a certain length without penalty. We marked the maximum allowed extension. Your PHRF authority may be different. The racing success of the boat didn't change substantially. Have you strenuously a

Re: Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I

2020-05-15 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Hi Don, Thanks for the reply. My RSA hasn't published rating rules on retrofit sprits and asyms etc. - it’s new territory for them. It would seem that people do use top-down furlers for asyms: see for example https://www.quantumsails.com/en/resources-and-expertise/articles/the-top-5-reasons-to

Re: Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I

2020-05-15 Thread Matt Wolford via CnC-List
No wonder you got spanked. Yes, try the chute first before making any big changes. I only use my asym for closer hauled stuff 65 to 110 range. Deeper than that and the big chute comes out. From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Randy Stafford via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 2:18 PM To: c

Re: Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I

2020-05-15 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
I have been flying both sym and asym spinnakers on Windburn for the last few years. A small tack point has been added on the bow forward of everything for the asym. I found that using an oversized pole works better, maybe a C&C 30-1 thing. Pulling the pole back a bit and getting some more chute

Stus-List Best Shower Boat

2020-05-15 Thread Francois Rivard via CnC-List
Hi Joe, Both the 34+ (34/36) and the 37+ (37/40) have separate shower stalls. Both have curtain and all. Amazingly enough even the one in the 34+ is normal human size / comfortable to take a decent shower / store stuff / house a free standing A/C unit. Also, they have a separate shower sump wit

Re: Stus-List Best Shower Boat

2020-05-15 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Actually, the 37+ (37/40) has a plexiglass shower door, not a curtain. The door can open into a shallow recess in the wall, hidden behind the wood door in the photo linked below, so it will be completely out of the way when you don't need it. It works very well actually. And there is a seat in th

Re: Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I

2020-05-15 Thread Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List
Following this closely. Generally, the C&C 30 with it's smallish main covering the largish headsail doesn't go downwind fast.  Getting a sym spin out from behind the main greatly improves it's downwind speed.  I don't see where an Asym would improve that scenario much at all, especially without

Re: Stus-List Best Shower Boat

2020-05-15 Thread Francois Rivard via CnC-List
Now that you mention it I remember the Mockey's 37+ with the Plexiglas door. The 34+ has a seat in the shower as well. It makes a good shelf for stuff if you use for storage :-) -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ "Take Five" Lake Lanier, GA On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 3:26 PM Ken Heaton wrote: > Actually,

Re: Stus-List Best Shower Boat

2020-05-15 Thread detroito91 via CnC-List
Optional on the 38 landfall...separate shower stall. Otherwise shower hose from sink connectors.JimSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List Date: 5/15/20 11:55 AM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Doug Mountjoy

Re: Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I

2020-05-15 Thread Matt Wolford via CnC-List
Adding to Michael’s point regarding the loading, I should have added in my note to Randy that we always use a reaching strut with the pole set-up. The loads are high and the guy sheeting angle really bad. From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Michael Brown via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 2:5

Re: Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I

2020-05-15 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
I would suggest taking a couple of Quaaludes until you relax a bit, and that anxiety goes away. I can only imagine the feeling you must have had when he rolled that Asymmetrical out and just left you in the dust. But probably what will happen, is that there are going to be questions about Sprint

Re: Stus-List Best Shower Boat

2020-05-15 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
Two things would make Corsair perfect. Idlsn berth and s seperate shower stall. Dont say it Edd... Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you. From: CnC-List on behalf of Ken Heaton via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 12:50:43 PM To: cnc-list

Re: Stus-List Best Shower Boat

2020-05-15 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Damn. Censored again.. By the way everyone, despite everything you may know about me or my C&C, I had absolutely nothing to do with the naming of “Operation Warp Speed.” though I do love the name. All the best, Edd ———- Edd M. Schillay Captain of the “Starship Enterpri

Re: Stus-List Best Shower Boat

2020-05-15 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
Hello all, another vote for the 37/40+.  The shower and the centerline stern berth.  I can post photos later if desired.Bruce Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Date: 5/15/20 6:38 PM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc:

Stus-List Hi

2020-05-15 Thread Robert Abbott via CnC-List
Mike, I was #3 launched and you still have your cover frame on.   What going on? Rob ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal t

Re: Stus-List Best Shower Boat

2020-05-15 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
I am always blown away at how C&C was so far out in front with these cool features on a race boat. separate showers walk thru transom ... great stuff!! John Conklin S/V Halcyon S/V Heartbeat www.flirtingwithfire.com On May 15, 2020, at 12:51 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List wrote:  https:/

Stus-List Spinnakers

2020-05-15 Thread Barry Lenoble via CnC-List
Hello, Regarding spinnakers for racing - you didn’t write (or maybe I just missed) if you are currently using a spinnaker now or not. If you’re currently a Jib and Main (JAM) boat and you’re trying to race against spinnaker boats, you will not do well (especially in light

Re: Stus-List Spinnakers

2020-05-15 Thread Donald Kern via CnC-List
Barry, Thanks for the vote of confidence and yes I am well aware of R JMS - been seeing way too much of her transom !!  Drop by the boat, we will be in Mitchell Park Marina for the Fall Off Soundings flying a large Texas flag due to my son boarding Fireball with his Viper 830 crew from Dallas

Re: Stus-List Need to replace forward hatch on 35 mkIII

2020-05-15 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
The goo was mainly dirt, held together by the remains of butyl. Not sticky at all, but enough to keep 80% of the water out. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On Fri, 8 May 2020 at 07:27, Michael Brannon via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I just removed the hatches