No wonder you got spanked.
Yes, try the chute first before making any big changes. I only use my asym for closer hauled stuff 65 to 110 range. Deeper than that and the big chute comes out. From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> On Behalf Of Randy Stafford via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 2:18 PM To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Randy Stafford <randal.staff...@icloud.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I Hi Don, Thanks for the reply. My RSA hasn't published rating rules on retrofit sprits and asyms etc. - it’s new territory for them. It would seem that people do use top-down furlers for asyms: see for example https://www.quantumsails.com/en/resources-and-expertise/articles/the-top-5-reasons-top-down-spinnaker-furlers-are-a. I can shackle an asym tack line block to the spare headsail shack on the stem, and hoist/douse the asym using a sock. It just might not be as fast as using a furler like my competitor does. When the Ranger 28 with the asym beat me off-wind Wednesday night, I was under jib and main, not my symmetrical chute. It was a broad reach (AWA ~140) to the next mark, then a beam reach to the last mark. The responses from you and Mike Hoyt make me think I should try going head-to-head with him while flying my symmetrical spinnaker - which of course is a reasonable suggestion, and one that would save me money :) I’ll still be at a disadvantage in sail setting speed because he has furlers and I don’t. But I should try that first. Cheers, Randy On May 15, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Donald Kern via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Randy, Most PHRF rating organizations will adjust (negatively) your rating for adding a tack point forward of the "J" measurement of the boat. You may receive a credit for both a retrofit application and due to a smaller sail area for a spinnaker - depends on the rating rules for your PHRF organization. Also an asymmetrical spinnaker is a free fly sail, thus adding a hard furler is not done for an asym. I do not understand why you stated "So I can’t just shackle an asym tack line block to the spare headsail shackle on the stem, and hoist/douse the asym using a sock." That should be an option. Lastly, the 30 Mk1 was designed to go deep downwind with a symmetrical spinnaker, which would have a greater sail area projected to windward an inherently faster than a asym rig deep downwind. The plus side that an asym would give your 30 Mk1 would be on reaching legs. Hope this helps. Don Kern Fireball C&C35 Mk2 Bristol, RI Commo. PHRF-NB On 5/15/2020 12:22 PM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List wrote: Listers- A guy in my yacht club has started an arms race by adding an asym with a top-down furler to his Ranger 28. Wednesday night in light air I beat him to the windward mark by a minute or two, then he hoisted his asym and dropped me like a bad habit. He beat me by five minutes corrected time in a one-hour race despite spotting me 12 sec/mile with his new adjusted rating (demonstrating yet again that ratings don’t necessarily account for performance differences). It was an eye-opening demonstration. So now I’m thinking I need an asym to compete. I know a guy who flew one on a 30 MK I. He welded a bracket forward of the stem, to fasten a tack line block, and had a sock instead of a furler. If I want to compete with this Ranger 28, I’ll have to add two furlers (one on the forestay and one for the asym) to be able to set sails as fast as him. So I can’t just shackle an asym tack line block to the spare headsail shackle on the stem, and hoist/douse the asym using a sock. I need a tack point forward of the stem to accommodate a furler. Thus my question to you listers: any experience with adding a bowsprit or bracket etc. to your C&C for tacking down an asymmetrical spinnaker? I did some reading last night on after-market bowsprits (e.g. Selden), but of course wanted to check with the collective wisdom on Stu’s list. Any advice or recommendations? Thanks, Randy Stafford S/V Grenadine C&C 30 MK I #79 Ken Caryl, CO _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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