Randy:

        What do you mean when you say "rigged"?  I have an asym, but I just use 
my spin pole set all the way forward and as low as possible.  Do you have one 
of those pole gizmos?

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I

Hi Mike,

Yes Grenadine is rigged for symmetrical spinnaker and I fly it in some races.  
I’m still at a disadvantage in speed of setting sails without furlers.

I would be surprised if TSL would need to be greater than 13.5’!

Cheers,
Randy

> On May 15, 2020, at 10:28 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Randy
> 
> You may take a rating hit for having a sprit on the boat for this.  The 
> measurement will be Total Sprit Length (TSL) and if that exceeds J there is 
> usually an adjustment.
> 
> Have you considered a symmetrical spinnaker?  The 30 was designed for one and 
> the downwind angles would clobber a Ranger 28 flying an asym tacked at bow.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mike Hoyt
> Persistence
> Halifax, NS
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> via CnC-List
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> Cc: Randy Stafford <randal.staff...@icloud.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Tacking Down an Asym on a 30 MK I
> 
> Listers-
> 
> A guy in my yacht club has started an arms race by adding an asym with a 
> top-down furler to his Ranger 28.  Wednesday night in light air I beat him to 
> the windward mark by a minute or two, then he hoisted his asym and dropped me 
> like a bad habit.  He beat me by five minutes corrected time in a one-hour 
> race despite spotting me 12 sec/mile with his new adjusted rating 
> (demonstrating yet again that ratings don’t necessarily account for 
> performance differences).  It was an eye-opening demonstration.
> 
> So now I’m thinking I need an asym to compete.  I know a guy who flew one on 
> a 30 MK I.  He welded a bracket forward of the stem, to fasten a tack line 
> block, and had a sock instead of a furler.  If I want to compete with this 
> Ranger 28, I’ll have to add two furlers (one on the forestay and one for the 
> asym) to be able to set sails as fast as him.  So I can’t just shackle an 
> asym tack line block to the spare headsail shackle on the stem, and 
> hoist/douse the asym using a sock.  I need a tack point forward of the stem 
> to accommodate a furler.
> 
> Thus my question to you listers: any experience with adding a bowsprit or 
> bracket etc. to your C&C for tacking down an asymmetrical spinnaker?  I did 
> some reading last night on after-market bowsprits (e.g. Selden), but of 
> course wanted to check with the collective wisdom on Stu’s list.  Any advice 
> or recommendations?
> 
> Thanks,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C&C 30 MK I #79
> Ken Caryl, CO
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