Thanks for all the helpful replies on cabin table options. I've pretty much
narrowed my boat choices down to either a C&C 30MKii or a Tartan 31 at this
point. The Tartan's interior appears more open with the folding table
mounted on the bulkhead vs. the fixed table on the C&C. I will mainly be
day-
I replaced each fixture with a pair of these:
https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/swivel-led/135-swivel-utility-led-light-bar-with-rocker-switch/1434/4518/#/attributes/10854
They were not available in the warm color so I got the "natural" color
which was fairly harsh.
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at
Lisle,
Here are a couple of considerations both ways (and both boat interiors look
great)…
We recently switched from a C&C 34 (table similar to C&C 30), to a Sabre 38
(table similar to Tartan 31). I much prefer that I can swing the table up on
the bulkhead. That is now our standard configurati
Everyone's criteria is different. How folks use their boats is also a
consideration. Both boats look nice. Both are quality built.
I guess I'm strange but my starting point is always the rig and how the
sailing load is supported. Are the chain plates attached to a bulkhead or
are the shroud lo
Is C&C bankrupt again? I kind of lost track and they definitely were not at the
show.
Speaking of which, the show was kind of depressing. Monday was very lightly
attended and one could think from the show that sailing is 99% catamaran
charters and some French cruising boats. The Catalina lineup
http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2017/07/24/u-s-watercraft-receivership/
Appears it has gone into receivership.
Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY
On 10/11/2017 10:18 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote:
Is C&C bankrupt again? I kind of lost track and they definitely were
not
There is an auction of remaining assets scheduled.
Joel
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:56 AM Neil Gallagher via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2017/07/24/u-s-watercraft-receivership/
>
> Appears it has gone into receivership.
>
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherl
>
>
> Thanks, Dennis, I hadn't thought about the issue of sail load support.
>
> From what I can tell, it appears the Tartan 31 chainplates are attached to
> the bulkhead vs. the C&C 30mkii are attached to the hull. I have the Tartan
> 31 manual but I don't see that specified anywhere, but looking
Lisle- buy the C&C! :)
> On Oct 11, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks, Dennis, I hadn't thought about the issue of sail load support.
>
> From what I can tell, it appears the Tartan 31 chainplates are attached to
> the bulkhead vs. the C&C 30mkii are at
Regarding the chainplates on the 30 MK II, from the pictures at
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1987/C%26C-30-3079275/Rochester/NY/United-States#.Wd40ia2ZO8V
I’d guess they attach to a fiberglass “knee” behind the settees - not to the
hull directly - but to be sure you’d have to pull off the set
Whoops here’s the picture of my starboard settee:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTU3ZycUs0YzQwSHM
> On Oct 11, 2017, at 9:19 AM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
> Regarding the chainplates on the 30 MK II, from the pictures at
> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1987/C%26C-
Check the chain plates and bulkhead carefully. They are a concern.
Joel
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 11:25 AM Randy Stafford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Whoops here’s the picture of my starboard settee:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTU3ZycUs0YzQwSHM
>
> On Oct 11,
Thanks to all for your feedback.
Great group!
Fair Winds,
Pete W.
Siren Song
'91 C&C30-2
Deltaville, VA.
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The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again.
October will be our fund raising month. Please consider s
Lisle,
One other thing you might ask yourself is why is the C&C's table a fold
down vs the Tartan's fold up bulkhead mount. The answer lies in the
location of the forward bulkhead and mast. Where does that 2-3 feet go?
In the C&C, it's part of the dinette. The bulkhead is more forward opening
Hello all
Just had rig pulled and lower spreader tips are severely corroded upon
removal by yard there are chunks missing
my rigger has not looked at them yet
My questions are:
1. can they be re-tipped
2. does anyone know where they can purchased if replacement needed
thanks
PETER
Portl
FYI – if you turn the 35 MK I table 90 degrees you can have people eating on
both sides of the boat.
Joe
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 12:38 PM
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Cc: Dennis C.
Subject
Lisle,
For what it’s worth... My kids are the same age as yours (girl, boy), and we
got our boat this summer, so they are completely new to sailing. I can tell you
from heavy parent observation this summer, they don’t run around under sail. If
they are hanging out below they’re stationary watch
We happen to have owned a C&C 1980 30-1 dinette for the last dozen years
and still own and love her, and also now own a 1994 Tartan 31. The older
30-1 isn't the same as the 30-2, but the dinette vs foldup, etc., and some
other issues seem the same.
The Tartan does have bulkhead mounted chainplates
Hi Lisle and also others
I think fixed table or fold up table has a lot to do with how you intend to use
the boat. We have raced on a C&C 115 which had the fixed table. Very nice
layout when spending time below but when racing the fixed table makes packing a
spinnaker more arduous.
Our current
I’ll add one more perspective. I have a beautiful teak table sitting in my
basement. The cabin is much roomier without it, and no one seems to miss it.
Again, it’s all about how you use the boat.
From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 1:52 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
A couple of comments here.
First, I can confirm that the chainplates on the 30-2 are mounted to the
bulkhead behind the settee cushion rather than to the hull itself. However,
the load is transferred by a beefy aluminum casting, the bulkhead is quite
thick and the casting is secured by 5 or
One other item no one has mentioned. The aft head. Priceless. Good use of
space and perfect for hanging wet clothes shed at the bottom of the
companionway. The toilet faces fore and aft so is good on either tack.
Additionally, having the head forward (as is shown in the Tartan),
essentially in the
Depending on the shape, rigrite or Dwyer Mast may have them. If they were
made by a rigging vendor still in business, they might have them.
The key will be identifying the original manufacturer.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 11:51 AM, PETE via CnC-List
wrote
It just says C&c spars on the side of the mast saw no other names
Hopefully rigger might know
Thanks
Peter
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> On Oct 11, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
> Depending on the shape, rigrite or Dwyer Mast may have them. If they were
> made by a rigging
If you're a little more DIY, you can buy 3x of these:
https://www.ledsupply.com/leds/cree-xlamp-xm-l2-leds
and one of these at 1000ma
https://www.ledsupply.com/led-drivers/buckblock-dc-led-driver
Hook them up, the result is a nice warm light, with ample brightness, and 1
amp power draw.
They are
Might be a Klacko. See if it matches one of these:
http://www.klackospars.com/services/mast-extrusions.html
Dennis C.
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:36 PM, PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> It just says C&c spars on the side of the mast saw no other names
>
> Hopefully ri
Thanks will check it out
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> On Oct 11, 2017, at 3:58 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
> Might be a Klacko. See if it matches one of these:
>
> http://www.klackospars.com/services/mast-extrusions.html
>
> Dennis C.
>
>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:36 PM, PETER OCAMPO
So I have the old school wand chart light with a little light bulb (3/4" long
single bayonet) giving very little light. In fact I never use it. But it is
there and working and I was wondering instead of the BS of replacing and moving
the wiring to accommodate the fixture (which I already have
I had my spreaders re-tipped at one time. A local guy did it.I now do
rigging work and have a local machinist who is able to fabricate spreaders.
Your rigger should know someone who does that sort of work.
Sail Safe,
Mike.
Virginia Lee, 1978 C&C 31-1 CB
Virginia Beach, VA
Sent from
Mine too -I guess we can't protest each other over removing weight for our
boats, can we!.
Bill ColemanC&C 39
Original message
From: "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List"
Date: 10/11/17 14:02 (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "Matthew L. Wolford"
Subject: Re: S
I did. Works substantially better (and uses much less current). A small picture
included, but I am not sure if it would go through).
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I bought it from this guy: http://www.marineledscanada.ca/
I am not sure though, if you have the same reading (charts) light
Having replaced most of the bulbs in our 37/40+ with Less, the steps are as
follows:
1. Identify the bulb by number of possible and look up an equivalent LED.
2. If there is no number stamped in the bulb base, identify the base and
number by pixtures/drawings. For those bulbs with 2 contacts i
Probably a BA9S mini bayonet base.
http://store.marinebeam.com/ba9s-miniature-bayonet/
Dennis C.
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 4:32 PM, David via CnC-List
wrote:
> So I have the old school wand chart light with a little light bulb (3/4"
> long single bayonet) giving very little light. In fact I nev
Thanks for info
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 11, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Mike Brannon via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
> I had my spreaders re-tipped at one time. A local guy did it.I now do
> rigging work and have a local machinist who is able to fabricate spreaders.
> Your rigger should know som
Cetol come in 4 formulations; Marine, Gloss, Light and now Natural Teak.
Touche's teak has 5 coats of Cetol Marine followed by an indeterminate
number of coats of Cetol Gloss, applied twice a year. It still looks good
after many years but, at some point, it will need to be redone. Maybe
another
My table hasn’t been on board since I bought the boat. I guess I’m
grandfathered. You, on the other hand...
From: coltrek via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:24 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Subject: Re: Stus-List opinions about cabin table and C&C 30-2 vs Tartan 31
Yes. This past spring for Grenadine’s new cabintop handrails, and for
refinishing her traveler bar and taffrails, I used 3-5 coats Cetol Marine
Natural Teak followed by 2-3 coats of Cetol Marine Gloss. I liked the color
and finish of the result - it looks pretty natural. I’m only six months i
I used natural teak on The Office. It looked ok and held up well but I’m
now a fan of Epiphanes fast drying varnish. Comes in clear and tinted.
Joel
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 8:47 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Cetol come in 4 formulations; Marine, Gloss, Light and now
And for comparison, Jerrod Milton on my crew made an awesome set of custom teak
drink holders for Grenadine’s cockpit and cabintop (inboard of her dorade
boxes). These he insisted on treating only with teak oil. And they have
weathered some in the course of just one season.
Cheers,
Randy
> O
Trekkie, Trekker, it’s just another example of the Vulcan principal of infinite
diversity in infinite combinations.
And you can avoid the winter depression by bringing Enterprise down to
Washington. I’ll find you a slip close to Imzadi, you can come down and sail
Enterprise on weekends (thin
I had the same problem on my 1980 C&C 40. Zern Rigging in Pensacola, FL has a
machine shop, and they retipped the spreader ends. They are beefier now than
stock, and will probably outlive the boat. He went through all the possible
speaker tip vendors looking for something that could be readily
I propose we all bring our boats to Rick's place. We can have biweekly C&C
rendezvous all winter!
I'm seriously tempted. Let's discuss bringing Peregrine down for next year,
Rick...if you can accommodate 7 1/2'.
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine
Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
USA02840
ht
Haha, nice try counselor. I think the rule reads, whatever came with a boat,
stock. You did, however, remove a lot of water ballast that came with the
boat... okay, that didn't come with the boat.
Regards,
Bill Coleman C&C 39
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From: "Matthew L. Wolf
If there is enough meat left on them, you might be able to just build up what's
missing with filler aluminum weld. Otherwise, just cut them off and weld some
more aluminum on, either 5000 series marine-grade, or 6061. You should be able
to whittle it back into shape, aluminum isn't that mu
We’ll need to discuss over a beer the finer points of what “comes with” a
35-year old custom boat. And I didn’t just remove water ballast, I replaced a
lot of it with West System (more than a teak table’s worth, I might add),
followed by 8-10 coats of Interprotect. But I digress.
From: coltre
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