A couple of comments here.
First, I can confirm that the chainplates on the 30-2 are mounted to the
bulkhead behind the settee cushion rather than to the hull itself. However,
the load is transferred by a beefy aluminum casting, the bulkhead is quite
thick and the casting is secured by 5 or 6 large bolts. The advantage of this
design is that you can actually remove the chainplates for rebedding with
relative ease. I did it last year, not a bad job at all. Mine came with
access panels in that area that don't look original, not sure if there is a way
to get the nuts off otherwise.
Regarding the table, I have owned boats with both types of layout. My Catalina
27 had the bulkhead folding table, and I currently have a 30-2. My daughter,
now 11, has always considered the V-berth "her room" and spends most of her
time there when we are at the dock, so the table does not matter. The thing
that we have found is that the table on the 30-2 still has some value with both
leaves folded down. At the dock, it is wide enough for a glass or can to be
placed on it. The problem with the bulkhead mount table is that it is all or
nothing, and with it folded up there is no place for the people in the middle
of the settees to place anything. I also think that the curved settee in a
dinette layout is much more comfortable for conversation. With the settee's
full, we always felt like we were sitting in a hallway on the Catalina.
Good luck with your decision. I feel like you can't really go wrong, but I
also love my 30-2 and never regretted buying her. I also think Mike is spot on
about the aft cabin, that really makes a difference.
Regards,
Jim Reinardy
C&C 30-2 "Firewater"
Milwaukee, WI
--------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: Stus-List opinions about
cabin table and C&C 30-2 vs Tartan 31
From: "Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: 10/11/17 10:52 am
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: "Hoyt, Mike" <mike.h...@impgroup.com>
Hi Lisle and also others
I think fixed table or fold up table has a lot to do with how you intend to
use the boat. We have raced on a C&C 115 which had the fixed table. Very nice
layout when spending time below but when racing the fixed table makes packing a
spinnaker more arduous.
Our current boat has a fold up to bulkhead table as did our Niagara 26 (most
Niagaras had a dinette). When we are cruising inshore we put the table down
and leave the stbd side leaf folded down. This is in fact very similar to a
fixed table with the port leaf up and stbd leaf down. Room to get by but also
more room to put snacks and other items. Really I do not think it matters all
that much which you have
The BIG DIFFERENCE I see between the Tartan and C&C is the aft cabin vs a
quarterberth. When our girls were small we lived aboard our Niagara 26 most
weekends in the summer. They were 6 and 8 when we started and we did this for
several years. Initially they would sleep in the vee berth which left the rest
of the boat free for us and guests once they were asleep. Once they got older
they wanted their own bunks and insisted on sleeping on the settees which was
less convenient all round. With a two cabin layout you have a LOT MORE bedroom
options for your children and can keep the main cabin free for a common area.
I think in many ways the 30-2 C&C affords more flexibility for staying
overnight with small children than a boat with an open quarterberth. The
downside is that the vee berth and quarterberth on the C_C 30-2 will likely be
more cramped than the vee berth on the Tartan.
Our first boat (C&C designed Paceship P23) had a dinette. It was fun for the
two girls who were 5 and 7 at the time because it fit them (and no one else).
A big pain with that setup when having 4 aboard was it had to be folded down at
night to be a bed and up in the day to give a useful surface.
These are just some thoughts I wanted to share about spending time aboard with
small children for the two layouts you had mentioned
Mike
Persistence
1987 Frers 33
Halifax, NS
On Oct 11, 2017, at 6:09 AM, Lisle Kingery, PhD <lisle.king...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Thanks for all the helpful replies on cabin table options. I've pretty
much narrowed my boat choices down to either a C&C 30MKii or a Tartan 31 at
this point. The Tartan's interior appears more open with the folding table
mounted on the bulkhead vs. the fixed table on the C&C. I will mainly be
day-sailing and hanging out on the dock with a few overnights so I'm thinking
the more open cabin might work better with the kids. comparison pics link below.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5w1TuAY4gTRam1qNlBuWExhSW8
Thanks,
Lisle
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