Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

Doesn't the cunngham assist the halyard in moving draft forward? -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave S via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:43 PM To: C&c Stus List Cc: Dave S Subject: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham? Both

Stus-List 33-2 shroud tensions

Does anybody have numbers for shroud tension on 33-2 using Loos Rt-10? Thanks Mike For Colmonel ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.pa

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

Cunningham does flatten the sail but simply due to luff tension. If a baby stay is able to pull the belly of the mast forward then the luff is also pulled forward and the resulting shape of the sail is flatter. Josh On Thu, May 18, 2017, 8:18 AM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: > Doesn't the cun

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

And bending mast would also open leech From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:52 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham? Cunningham does flatten the sail bu

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

There is a difference between the amount of max draft and the location of max draft. Mast bend affects the amount of maximum draft. Luff tension or cunningham affects the location of maximum draft. For a headsail, headstay sag affects the amount of maximum draft. Halyard tension affects the loc

Re: Stus-List 33-2 shroud tensions

MikeThe guage will give a recommended tension for the rod diameter. I would started with this. I just started to use the Loos guage last fall so not much experience with the guage really. John on EnterpriseSarnia Ontario On Thursday, May 18, 2017 8:19 AM, "Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List" wrote:

Re: Stus-List 33-2 shroud tensions

Does anyone know off hand the diameter of the rod used on 33-2 upper/lower/intermediates? From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John McKay via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:16 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: John McKay Subject: Re: Stus-List 33-2 shroud t

Stus-List 33-2 shroud tensions

I use the Loos RT 10 to tension my rig.our rigs are different so numbers may be irrelevant.without the gauge, I would be guessing and from experience, that's not a very accurate way to know how much tension is on the shrouds. If you have rod rigging, the tension should never exceed 20%

Stus-List 33-2 shroud tensions

Mike: The Loos RT 10 gauge can measure the diameter of the rod. Rob On 2017-05-18 10:19 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: Does anyone know off hand the diameter of the rod used on 33-2 upper/lower/intermediates? *From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *John M

Stus-List Loos RT-10 rod tension gauge

Curious about those who have an RT-10 gauge, did you find a deal?  I see prices on those at about $500, which I am having trouble justifying.Jim ReinardyC&C 30-2 "Firewater"Milwaukee, WI ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our m

Re: Stus-List Loos RT-10 rod tension gauge

There are no deals on those. Looked on kijiji, ebay and elsewhere. Very expensive Three of us split the cost of one. Tartan Thomas 35, C&C 33-2, Frers 33 Really hard to justify the cost From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Reinardy via CnC-List Sent: Thursd

Re: Stus-List Loos RT-10 rod tension gauge

Newport Nautical Supply, a consignment shop in Newport RI had one this winter for $250 I picked one up last year there for just under that. Nice to have for peace-of-mind. Chuck B C&C 34 Elusive Somerset, MA *Chuck Borge* *508-642-3557* On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-L

Re: Stus-List Loos RT-10 rod tension gauge

Their model 90 is substantially cheaper. If you are a rigger, you probably want the better model RT-10. But for checking the tension of you rig, a model 90 (there are two types (A and B) and you have to figure out which one would work for you) should be sufficient. And they cost around $100. Ma

Stus-List Battery compartment and battery boxes

I have finished my rewiring project and everything seems to be working fine. I ended up putting a Blue Sea Si-ACR to control charging inside the battery compartment as I could find no other accessible space for it. It is not pretty crowded inside that area with wires, two batteries, and the AC

Stus-List Fun Race Last Night

It was a good night for a C&C 30 MK I on Chatfield Reservoir last night - blowing 20mph. My competition was depowering, but I flew my 150 :) Grenadine did round up once on the way to the windward mark, but other than that the amount of weather helm was about right - tiller about five degrees abo

Re: Stus-List Loos RT-10 rod tension gauge

The model 90 is for cable not rod From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 1:04 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic Subject: Re: Stus-List Loos RT-10 rod tension gauge Their model 90 is substantially c

Re: Stus-List Battery compartment and battery boxes

My gel batteries are not in boxes. You can cut them in half and they would not leak. Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:06 PM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Stus-List B

Re: Stus-List Loos RT-10 rod tension gauge

Mike,I think you are correct, yes.  I do see some indication that the PT series works for rod though.  Anybody using one of those?  That would be more in that $100 range as well.http://loosnaples.com/tension-gauges/professional-modelsJim Original Message Subject: Re: Stus-List L

Re: Stus-List Loos RT-10 rod tension gauge

Bought mine for ~$500. There are ways to tune the rig without but I like the consistency and scientific order to doing it with a tension gauge. My understanding is that you need an RT-10 or RT-11 for rod rigging. The important factor being that rod is naturally more rigid than wire thus the scal

Re: Stus-List Loos RT-10 rod tension gauge

Josh,I am guessing you are right, but I sent a note to Loos about using the PT series and will share anything I get back. Thanks,Jim Original Message Subject: Re: Stus-List Loos RT-10 rod tension gauge From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List Date: Thu, May 18, 20

Re: Stus-List Fun Race Last Night

Congratulations Randy! Now enjoy the snowstorm! Chuck Gilchrest Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2017, at 12:21 PM, RANDY via CnC-List > wrote: > > It was a good night for a C&C 30 MK I on Chatfield Reservoir last night - > blowing 20mph. My competition was depowering, but I flew my 150 :)

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

They both "depower" the main‎ but it's not the same thing going on: As the wind builds it pushes the max draft in the ‎main aft. This increases drag until it slows the boat and increases heel. The Cunningham brings the max. draft forward again to make the aerofoil more effective. It increases lif

Re: Stus-List Fun Race Last Night

Theoretical hull speed of a C&C 30 is 6.7 knots (based on 25’ water line). How are you hitting 7.6-8? Foils? Dave Aries 1990 C&C 34+ New London, CT > On May 18, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List > wrote: > > Congratulations Randy! Now enjoy the snowstorm! > Chuck Gilchrest

Re: Stus-List Loos RT-10 rod tension gauge

Here is the reply from Loos:"PT gauges are for wire rope only, there is no conversion for rod. The statement on the web site only infers that we make both kinds."I guess it is RT series or nothing.  I have contacted the store in Newport, we will see if that pans out.  Thanks for all the help!Jim

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

Mike I believe you are correct but isn't that simply a side effect? Leech tension and sail twist should be controlled by the mail sheet and vang. In fact I think the opening of the leech is experienced more with changes in backstay tension as a result of changing the position of the masthead. Co

Re: Stus-List Fun Race Last Night

I'm just as surprised as anyone. I know that 1.34 times the square root of 24.75 (Grenadine's waterline in feet) is 6.67 knots. But apparently that's only a very general rule - see http://www.boats.com/reviews/crunching-numbers-hull-speed-boat-length and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_speed

Re: Stus-List Loos RT-10 rod tension gauge

I'm sure somebody might be willing to let you borrow one for the cost of shipping... On May 18, 2017 3:35 PM, "Jim Reinardy via CnC-List" wrote: > Here is the reply from Loos: > > "PT gauges are for wire rope only, there is no conversion for rod. The > statement on the web site only infers that

Re: Stus-List Loos RT-10 rod tension gauge

Who needs a Loos gauge? I have one to lend Harry Newport, RI Sent from my iPhone 8 beta > On May 18, 2017, at 17:11, Josh Muckley via CnC-List > wrote: > > I'm sure somebody might be willing to let you borrow one for the cost of > shipping... > >> On May 18, 2017 3:35 PM, "Jim Reinardy via

Re: Stus-List Loos RT-10 rod tension gauge

Harry, I would take you up on that if you are willing to ship. I would happily pay freight and a rental charge! Jim Reinardy - Original Message - Subject: Re: Stus-List Loos RT-10 rod tension gauge From: "Harry Hallgring Jr via CnC-List" Date: 5/18/17 2:54 pm To: cnc-l

Re: Stus-List Loos RT-10 rod tension gauge

I picked mine up from another lister at a hefty discount. Score! Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress” Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Reinardy via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:56 To: cnc-list@c

Re: Stus-List Baby stay vs Cunningham?

Ultimately, to answer your question, IMO the Cunningham is a valuable addition. For me adjusting halyard tension is more difficult than adjusting Cunningham. My Cunningham is a 5 to 1 fiddle block arrangement which pulls down on a pennant that passes through the luff cringle (2 to 1) resulting in