I'm just as surprised as anyone. I know that 1.34 times the square root of 
24.75 (Grenadine's waterline in feet) is 6.67 knots. But apparently that's only 
a very general rule - see 
http://www.boats.com/reviews/crunching-numbers-hull-speed-boat-length and 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_speed . At 9,000 pounds displacement I 
guarantee I'm not planing :) 

But I assume GPS doesn't lie. On June 22nd last year I was using RaceQs during 
a race. I forgot to switch it off after finishing, so it recorded Grenadine 
sailing for fun in the 25-33mph gusts that piped up after the race, under full 
main and 150% genoa (which tore that night, before I could get a rail in the 
water). If you watch this replay from 19:42:50-19:43:00 local time, you'll see 
Grenadine going 7.5 knots over ground according to RaceQs GPS-based iPhone app: 

http://raceqs.com/tv-beta/tv.htm#userId=1032518&divisionId=41508&updatedAt=2016-06-23T03:05:38Z&dt=2016-06-22T18:08:05-06:00..2016-06-22T21:05:54-06:00&boat=Grenadine
 

I'm not one to look a gift horse in the mouth :) Maybe at 25 degrees of heel my 
waterline length is appreciably longer than 24.75 feet. Or maybe I just have to 
give credit to George Cassian, George Cuthbertson, and Rob Ball for designing a 
faster-than-predicted hull form. 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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From: "David Knecht via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
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Cc: "David Knecht" <davidakne...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 1:25:19 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fun Race Last Night 

Theoretical hull speed of a C&C 30 is 6.7 knots (based on 25’ water line). How 
are you hitting 7.6-8? Foils? Dave 

Aries 
1990 C&C 34+ 
New London, CT 





On May 18, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: 

Congratulations Randy! Now enjoy the snowstorm! 
Chuck Gilchrest 

Sent from my iPhone 

On May 18, 2017, at 12:21 PM, RANDY via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > 
wrote: 


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It was a good night for a C&C 30 MK I on Chatfield Reservoir last night - 
blowing 20mph. My competition was depowering, but I flew my 150 :) Grenadine 
did round up once on the way to the windward mark, but other than that the 
amount of weather helm was about right - tiller about five degrees above 
centerline. Managed to get a rail in the water for the first time and don't 
know why - I've sailed in stronger wind with the same amount of sail - must've 
had more rail meat those times. 

Anyway, Grenadine was second across the starting line. Only tacked once, and 
overtook the leader, before rounding the windward mark. Had the thrill of 
leading the fleet from there, and took line honors. Beat the next boat, a Cal 
22, by 73 seconds in a 30-minute race, but he has a gift PHRF of 246 and should 
correct over me by a few seconds. 

Saw 8 knots on the knotmeter but don't trust its calibration and didn't verify 
with GPS. However I hit 7.6 knots on GPS last year with a fixed 2-blade prop. I 
think she can break 8 knots with her new folding prop; I can tell she's faster. 

Offseason projects paying off; wanted to share the joy. 

Cheers, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C&C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 



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