Re: Stus-List Mast Holes

2014-06-12 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Hi Rob, Can you send a picture of the ventilation holes on your mast? Are they in a pattern? Why only on one side? Thanks, Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" , "David

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mk1 rudder design

2014-06-12 Thread Andy Weaver via CnC-List
I have a 1977 Mk 1, #467, same swept back rudder. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Curtis via CnC-List" To: "Michael Brown" , Subject: Stus-List C&C 30 mk1 rudder design Date: Wed, Jun 11, 2014 9:43 PM Here is the bottom of my 1980 C&C30MK1 HIN #

Stus-List Annapolis to Bermuda Race nearing finish

2014-06-12 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Looks like Steve Sharkey's Impromptu may finish first in PHRF-3 class. He's about 70 miles out and leads the next boats by about 12 miles. Hard to tell but he looks pretty good for corrected time also. http://www.bermudaoceanrace.com/race-overview/2014tracker Joel needs some breeze to catch up.

Stus-List Mast Holes

2014-06-12 Thread Robert Abbott via CnC-List
Chuck: I don't have any pics of the mast holes but I will take some the next time I am on the boat. Yes they are definitely in a pattern. We bought our 32 from the original owner that ordered the boat from C&C, Niagara on the Lakes, in 1984. He told me the mast holes were part of the 'spec

Re: Stus-List Mast Holes

2014-06-12 Thread Rich Knowles via CnC-List
I've been on a whack of boats and have never seen "fail safe" holes drilled in a mast. Offshore racing rules stipulate that the base of a keel stepped mast must be secured to the step. The mast foot is then held in place to avoid it leaping around the cabin interior in the event of a rigging dis

Re: Stus-List Mast Holes

2014-06-12 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
My 32 doesn't have the holes. Hull #59. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I've been on a whack of boats and have never seen "fail safe" holes > drilled in a mast. Offshore racing rules stipulate that the ba

Stus-List C&C 30 mk1 rudder design

2014-06-12 Thread Simon Warren via CnC-List
Hi Curtis, How do you like that folding prop? How does it perform in fwd/reverse? I have the same one in a box in my basement, but I'm reluctant to try it since it does not have the gears to ensure that both blades open evenly. Anyone know if it is worth anything on the used market? I currently ha

Stus-List Stanchion bases

2014-06-12 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
I am looking for a couple stanchion bases. They are the kind which have two bolt holes that go through the toe rail and a third which goes through the deck. I would prefer some used ones as they would match the ones on the boat (34 years old) but would take a new one. Does South Shore still car

Re: Stus-List Stanchion bases

2014-06-12 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Gary: http://southshoreyachts.com/product-category/cc-parts/stanchion-bases/ All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log On Jun 12, 2014, at 1

Re: Stus-List Stanchion bases

2014-06-12 Thread Paul Fountain via CnC-List
Yes they do Call Rob http://southshoreyachts.com/contact/ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Nylander via CnC-List Sent: June 12, 2014 11:28 AM To: CandC List Subject: Stus-List Stanchion bases I am looking for a couple stanchion bases. They are t

Re: Stus-List Stanchion bases

2014-06-12 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
There seem to be two types of base that look the same. I ordered a new based from South Shore a couple of years ago and it looks identical to all the others except the stanchion is angled out 10 degrees on the new one... Worth checking. Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 Branford, CT On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at

Re: Stus-List Mast Holes

2014-06-12 Thread Leslie Paal via CnC-List
That's what you get when you believe things you read on the internet. :-( Leslie. On Thu, 6/12/14, Robert Abbott via CnC-List wrote: Subject: Stus-List Mast Holes To: "Chuck S" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" Date: Thursday, June 12, 2014, 7:29 A

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mk1 rudder design

2014-06-12 Thread Curtis via CnC-List
Nope, I dont like the folding prop. I have no rev to speek of. Its dangrous.. Im going to change it as soon as I can find the money. I try to always go froward. Great boat !! bad prop. On 6/12/14, Simon Warren via CnC-List wrote: > Hi Curtis, > How do you like that folding prop? How does it perfo

Stus-List Backstay Tension 35/3

2014-06-12 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
Hi all 35-3 racers (and others with hydraulics), how much do you tension your backstay to get an acceptably straight forestay in 20-25kts? We were racing in that last night and our forestay was way looser than I wanted with the backstay at 2000psi (2 on the hydraulic panel). I have never gone abo

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mk1 rudder design

2014-06-12 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Same reason I ditched mine. For cruising I am towing a 12 foot RIB anyway, so the minor drag reduction is not worth the semi-usable reverse. I got tired of running aground gently and still being trapped if I could not get off by going forward. If I ever race seriously again I'll get a max-prop o

Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ Centerboard (I'm told 34+ is similar)

2014-06-12 Thread allen via CnC-List
All the aft cabin models used the same nomenclature: 30+, 34+, 37+ nice teak interior and double spreader rig: XL models triple spreader rigs with running backstays. Allen Miles S/V Septima 30-2+ Hampton, VA From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 11:56 AM To: CnC CnC d

Stus-List C&C 30 mk1 rudder design

2014-06-12 Thread Ron and Sharon via CnC-List
Thankyou to all the members who replied to my questions. The cnc-list archives has an amazing amount of information. I liked Antoine's reply the best and will be following his advice soon. I am confused about the photo of the rudder on Curtis's 1980 mk1. I visited a brokers storage lot this week wh

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mk1 rudder design

2014-06-12 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
The A4 is a good engine e for that boat. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ron and Sharon via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:31 PM To: Michael Brown via CnC-List Subject: Stus-List C&C 30 mk1 rudder design Thankyou to all the mem

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mk1 rudder design

2014-06-12 Thread Curtis via CnC-List
I took the yanmar 2gm15 out last fall and replaced it with the the newer 2gm15F fresh water cooled. Makes good hull speed. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > The A4 is a good engine e for that boat. > > > > *Joe Della Barba* > > Coqu

Re: Stus-List Mast Holes (and my usual rambling drivel)

2014-06-12 Thread Wally Bryant via CnC-List
I vote for ventilation. I have 14 1/2" holes in the mast, about six inches from the collar. When the bow's pointed into a stiff breeze it is truly amazing the amount of air that comes in through all the slots in the mast and shoots out through those holes. Often, that's happening when all th

Re: Stus-List Mast Holes (and my usual rambling drivel)

2014-06-12 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Sounds fun, Wal. If you're in no hurry, I'd wait for a window, too. A few years ago, I did the trip around from Florida to LA in August. I was dreading the Baja Bash, but as we left Acapulco, a hurricane formed off Nicaragua and we got in a bit of a rush. Jimenez followed us about 600 miles back a

Re: Stus-List Mast Holes (and my usual rambling drivel)

2014-06-12 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List
Wal, I think ventilation is the purpose also. Moot point now that I have a mast wrap though. The observation about bolting the mast base to the shoe is pretty much in line with my thinking; the forces at work in a major mast loss are probably going to overwhelm those bolts pretty quickly. I’ve

Re: Stus-List Mast Holes (and my usual rambling drivel)

2014-06-12 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
I think the reason we bolt the mast to the step is that some bright spark in the CCA decided that it was a good idea for boats doing the Bermuda race and it caught on. I remember thinking how useless the idea as I prepared a boat for the 1984 race. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 6

Re: Stus-List Mast Holes (and my usual rambling drivel)

2014-06-12 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List
Andy, Yup. I just helped a buddy bring his J120 from Annapolis to NEB for the upcoming Newport-Bermuda race and I’m pretty sure that the mast being bolted to the shoe was not done. Not sure anymore if it is even required. In theory it seems like a good idea but in the real world, probably not

Re: Stus-List Mast Holes (and my usual rambling drivel)

2014-06-12 Thread Rich Knowles via CnC-List
See section 3.12 of the ISAF rules : http://www.sailing.org/tools/documents/OSR2014Parts1to619122013-[16036].pdf Rich > On Jun 12, 2014, at 19:37, Dave Godwin via CnC-List > wrote: > > Andy, > > Yup. > > I just helped a buddy bring his J120 from Annapolis to NEB for the upcoming > Newport

Re: Stus-List Mast Holes

2014-06-12 Thread Sam Salter via CnC-List
‎...I'm going with weight reduction! sam :-)   Original Message   From: Leslie Paal via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 10:05 AM To: cnc-listCNC boat owners; Robert Abbott Reply To: Leslie Paal Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Holes That's what you get when you believe things you read on the in

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mk1 rudder design

2014-06-12 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
I don't even have to see it - if it is 'conventional', it is not original. As the originals were all shark fins, this had to be custom. As I mentioned, there were a number of people who modified early C&C rudders to get them deeper, because when you are heeled over (reaching?) the rudder is pret

Re: Stus-List Backstay Tension

2014-06-12 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Tim: It's important to know the force being applied, not the pressure. Force is equal to pressure multiplied by the area of the hydraulic cylinder, and all cylinders are not the same. There's a Navtec manual on the photoalbum web site. Find out which hydraulic cylinder you have, and look up th

Re: Stus-List Backstay Tension 35/3

2014-06-12 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
Tim, I did not see a response from a 35-3 owner so here is how we approach backstay pressure on Calypso. Calypso has Dyform wire fore and back stays rated equal to the rod that was replaced. We have a Harken roller furler. Typically we experience the most forestay sag in 17 to 20 TWS with th

Re: Stus-List Backstay Tension

2014-06-12 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Guess I'm wondering what the wave state was. If you had 2+ foot seas, you may want a bit of sag for power. If the seas were flat then I could see a fairly straight forestay but not at the risk of damaging the boat. I rarely use more than 1100 lbs on my Navtec. I've seen a "smile" at the aft end

Stus-List Mast Holes

2014-06-12 Thread Robert Abbott via CnC-List
Chuck and anyone else wanting a picture of the 'mast holes' on our C&C 32, I will send offline..there are 12 1/2" diameter holes and I am confident they are there for ventilation purposes and no other reasonappears Wally has them on 'Stella Blue' and feels they are effective for ventila

Re: Stus-List Stanchion bases

2014-06-12 Thread Charlie Normand via CnC-List
you may want to try Holland Marine, they carry lots of C&C parts and is where I ordered my bases. Charlie ShadowDancer 33 MK II Jamestown, Ri. On Jun 12, 2014, at 11:31 AM, Paul Fountain via CnC-List wrote: > Yes they do …. Call Rob …. > > http://southshoreyachts.com/contact/ > > > Fr

Re: Stus-List Backstay Tension

2014-06-12 Thread Don Harben via CnC-List
... just watch the boat bend ...     Don              From: Alan Bergen via CnC-List To: C&C Photoalbum email list Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 7:54:37 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay Tension Tim: It's important to know the force being appli

Re: Stus-List Backstay Tension

2014-06-12 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
Alan, Dennis, Martin, I appreciate the replies. We have also repaired "smiles" - small grins at least - at the rear of the keel seasonally with ever increasing structure over the last few years, hence my reticence to crank on rather than the rod force. We had short waves ~3' plus out of alignmen

Stus-List Mast Holes

2014-06-12 Thread Robert Abbott via CnC-List
Question is, in this case, we are not sure if you believed in things you read, and /or posted on the internet . Rob On 2014/06/12 1:01 PM, Leslie Paal wrote: That's what you get when you believe things you read on the internet. :-( Leslie. On T

Re: Stus-List Stanchion bases

2014-06-12 Thread Peter Fell via CnC-List
Holland Marine Products carry C&C stanchion bases: http://www.hollandmarine.com/CCfolder/CC001.html From: Tim Goodyear via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 8:52 AM To: Paul Fountain ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Stanchion bases There seem to be two types of base that loo

Re: Stus-List Mast Holes

2014-06-12 Thread Leslie Paal via CnC-List
When I read it, in that context it made sense. I can point to many cases where designers put in 'fail-safe' point to avoid larger or more expensive damage. Fuses in electric circuits, shear-pins on outboards are good examples... As I sail in SoCal, the rig going over in a blow really was not f

Re: Stus-List Mast Holes

2014-06-12 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Great pictures Rob. Amazing. Definite pattern professionally done, but I don't have any idea why they would do that. If C&C wanted to create a vent, why not space the holes further apart on both sides? I believe they help vent but that pattern of holes seems intended for another purpose. I don'